Hal65 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 https://datafloq.com/read/7-industries-taken-over-ai-robots/4128 The ones on the forefront according to the article are: Transportation Manufacturing Shipping/Packing Customer Service Finance Healthcare Agriculture Do you guys think Thailand will be affected by this? I think if there won't be many direct effects due to low need for job replacing automation, effects may still be felt particularly from China's implementation of these technologies. Whether good or bad I don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Kwasaki Posted January 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 13, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, Hal65 said: Do you guys think Thailand will be affected by this? Well yes of course, they have soi dogs now so there will be soi robot dogs outside as well. Edited January 13, 2020 by Kwasaki 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Berkshire Posted January 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 13, 2020 5 hours ago, Hal65 said: The ones on the forefront according to the article are: Transportation Manufacturing Shipping/Packing Customer Service Finance Healthcare Agriculture These are rather broad categories which cover almost....everything. Customer service? Healthcare? Well if AI can do a better job, let them. As for Thailand, the Thais are still using manual labor for various tasks which have been automated elsewhere. So Thailand wouldn't be impacted for some time. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post thaibeachlovers Posted January 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 13, 2020 Why stop at 7? Almost every job will be able to be done by AI robotics once they develop "real" AI. Most jobs can already be done by robotics, once they perfect the robots. This is the real crisis heading towards humanity, yet almost nothing is under discussion. I can foresee the rich owning the machines that make everything for themselves and for the rest of us........................................ ( it's not going to be pretty ). 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Berkshire said: Well if AI can do a better job, let them. I hope you don't have children. It is their children that will suffer when all jobs can be done by machines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sammieuk1 Posted January 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 13, 2020 "A" artificial is already in full use in government here no other explanation of how artificial a country can get but the "I" bit is a work in slow progress ???? 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berkshire Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 19 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said: 1 hour ago, Berkshire said: Well if AI can do a better job, let them. I hope you don't have children. It is their children that will suffer when all jobs can be done by machines. Did you know that in the US, something like 50% of all jobs 100 yrs ago was in agriculture. Now it's less than 1%, yet that industry is much more productive now than it was then. That's called progress. Think Star Trek, humans will be allowed to do what they want to do instead of what they have to do. Nevermind my own kids, it makes me wish I was young again. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post thaibeachlovers Posted January 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 13, 2020 6 minutes ago, Berkshire said: Think Star Trek, humans will be allowed to do what they want to do instead of what they have to do. You are an optimist. Being cynical I think the rich will take the goodies, and leave the rest of humanity to poverty and permanent underclass. It might help if governments were discussing it but narry a peep. It's not going to happen all at once, but a continuation of the present situation where more and more jobs are being lost to automation. Once all the basic jobs are gone, where will the "less qualified" work? EG. In NZ thousands of labourers from the Pacific islands are brought in to pick Kiwifruit every year. Once the robot picker is perfected, none of them will be employed again. An apple picker is also under development. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas J Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Here is just one example. This is the check in at the airport in Singapore. You insert your passport. The machines camera verifies it is you through facial recognition. The passport is used to find your flight which you confirm. The machine then prints your boarding pass and luggage tags. You place luggage on conveyor and it weighs your luggage. Not a single human until you get to security. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post CGW Posted January 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Berkshire said: That's called progress. Thats called growing food for profit rather than nutrition - is that progress given the poisons they use? 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post uhuh Posted January 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 13, 2020 9 hours ago, CGW said: Thats called growing food for profit rather than nutrition - is that progress given the poisons they use? Should be. "... given the poisons they produce?" The products produced by American agriculture are not fit for human consumption. What happens if you ingest them anyway? You can see the results on any American street. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post thaibeachlovers Posted January 14, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 14, 2020 8 hours ago, uhuh said: Should be. "... given the poisons they produce?" The products produced by American agriculture are not fit for human consumption. What happens if you ingest them anyway? You can see the results on any American street. Agriculture in advanced capitalist countries is dictated by cost of production to maximise profits. If they could polish turds and sell them as food they would. Read the small print that lists the chemicals in supermarket food- you will be shocked. I warrant that rich people don't eat supermarket junk food, which, IMO, is why many of them are not land whales. If they took the massive amounts of sugar ( of several different sorts ) out of supermarket food, most people probably wouldn't eat it. If one cares to get off the phone, and look at what is happening in the western world, one will observe that everything is being taken over by corporations that care only about profit- rest homes for the aged, hospitals, education, housing, infrastructure, movies, food etc etc. It's a world that I'm happy to be leaving in a few years time. I feel that humanity is on a path to a worse future than it should be, and AI robotics is making it possible. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DUNROAMIN Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 Just think about it, Thailand becoming a AI country. At the moment 4 Thais are employed to do the same work as one "farang". Imagine the unemployment numbers, not going to happen in my lifetime. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brunolem Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 I agree with most of the comments above. AI is a fad... a lot of talking and not much to show. Self-driving cars? Still nowhere to be seen, and not for anytime soon. The problem at the very base of AI is that those who try to make it work don't understand what is intelligence. They believe that human behavior can be translated into algorithms, as a suite of choices... leaving aside a whole lot of inputs that can never be "understood" by a computer. Agriculture... how does a robot taste a fruit to decide if it is ripe? Transportation... how does a robot react being stuck behind a tractor, that should not be on the road in the first place, when there is a long yellow line forbidding to overtake it? Finance... it is already almost fully automated... more than 80% of the trading... algorithms have been designed to be bullish, so they buy, ignoring all the historical precedents, which they don't know anything about, until this is all going to blow up sky high... Customer service... this has long disappeared, probably because of these stupid answering machines... I am not worried about artificial intelligence taking over, but rather about human intelligence tanking... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1FinickyOne Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 (edited) On 1/13/2020 at 11:24 AM, thaibeachlovers said: Almost every job will be able to be done by AI robotics can we get them to post on TVF for you? or me? Edited January 14, 2020 by kenk24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emptypockets Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 AI is so muc more than robots. It will overwhelm us in the next twenty years. Tesla has self driving cars for quite a while now and very good at what they do. However, consider getting into an accident, what does AI decide? Hit a lamppost and kill you but not hit five school children as an alternative? AI decides that you must be saved, but a couple of the schoolkids are yours or your grandkids. Gets interesting doesn't it? I read recently (maybe Musk or Gates) said that when AI inevitably evolves the relationship between humans and AI will be similar to humans and chimpanzees, except we will be the chimpanzees. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 On 1/14/2020 at 9:47 PM, Brunolem said: Agriculture... how does a robot taste a fruit to decide if it is ripe? LOL, LOL, LOL. Do you honestly think the ripeness of fruit is decided by some human tasting it? It's decided by science, often by measuring the sugar content. Some fruit is picked before it ripens as it has to be stored for long periods or shipped, like bananas, which are shipped green, to ripen on the journey. On 1/14/2020 at 9:47 PM, Brunolem said: Transportation... how does a robot react being stuck behind a tractor, that should not be on the road in the first place, when there is a long yellow line forbidding to overtake it? I'd imagine the AI would send a message to the highway police that would send a helicopter to move the tractor that should not be on the road off the road. If the tractor was a robot, it wouldn't be on the road in the first place. On 1/14/2020 at 9:47 PM, Brunolem said: They believe that human behavior can be translated into algorithms, as a suite of choices.. Seems to me that many people are already like robots, just not as efficient. On 1/14/2020 at 9:47 PM, Brunolem said: I am not worried about artificial intelligence taking over, but rather about human intelligence tanking.. You're too late. Just look at people in a restaurant all looking at their mind control device. They ain't discussing particle physics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 On 1/15/2020 at 3:09 AM, emptypockets said: AI is so muc more than robots. It will overwhelm us in the next twenty years. Tesla has self driving cars for quite a while now and very good at what they do. However, consider getting into an accident, what does AI decide? Hit a lamppost and kill you but not hit five school children as an alternative? AI decides that you must be saved, but a couple of the schoolkids are yours or your grandkids. Gets interesting doesn't it? I read recently (maybe Musk or Gates) said that when AI inevitably evolves the relationship between humans and AI will be similar to humans and chimpanzees, except we will be the chimpanzees. Planet of the Apes, but AI instead of the apes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 (edited) On 1/15/2020 at 3:09 AM, emptypockets said: AI is so muc more than robots. It will overwhelm us in the next twenty years. Tesla has self driving cars for quite a while now and very good at what they do. However, consider getting into an accident, what does AI decide? Hit a lamppost and kill you but not hit five school children as an alternative? AI decides that you must be saved, but a couple of the schoolkids are yours or your grandkids. Gets interesting doesn't it? I read recently (maybe Musk or Gates) said that when AI inevitably evolves the relationship between humans and AI will be similar to humans and chimpanzees, except we will be the chimpanzees. Either humans decide to stop going down the road to ( inevitable ) domination by AI, or we get dominated. IMO there isn't an either or. As a human I say stop work on AI now, but the people that are controlling everything anticipate getting very, very rich. No prizes for guessing who wins. Hit a lamppost and kill you but not hit five school children as an alternative? The answer will be whatever the machine is programmed to do. Even an AI will be a computer program. Where it gets tricky is who or what programmes the AI. If it's humans it would be the 5 children, but if it's another AI, it might be the owner ie you. Edited January 20, 2020 by thaibeachlovers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeCross Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 On 1/13/2020 at 11:50 AM, Berkshire said: Did you know that in the US, something like 50% of all jobs 100 yrs ago was in agriculture. Now it's less than 1%, yet that industry is much more productive now than it was then. That's called progress. Think Star Trek, humans will be allowed to do what they want to do instead of what they have to do. Nevermind my own kids, it makes me wish I was young again. or think The Expanse where 40 billion humans scratch around for scraps whilst through a lottery the lucky 1 in 6000 are allowed to have a job.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yokat Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 At least gov jobs are safe, nothing to replace since there's already a ton of pretend intelligence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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