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Phuket Immigration re-confirms ‘embassy income verification’ letters not required after American expat given 30 days to leave Thailand

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5 minutes ago, Max69xl said:

What are you talking about? There are no income letters issued at the UK,US and Australian embassies since January 1 last year. Citizens from those 3 countries need bank statements from their Thai banks. This is >1 year old news. 

Which is what I am talking about.

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1 minute ago, stevenl said:

Read the OP.

I did - The OP is NOT proof and is grossly misleading as those of us who deal with Phuket Immigration know.

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21 minutes ago, Russell17au said:

You are talking a load of rubbish. I am on a marriage extension and I have never had to supply any photo's of us on the bed. We were only visited by immigration on the original application. I have only ever had to give 4 photo's per year and one of those photo's must be outside the house showing the house number. Since the original application we have never been visited by immigration and we do not have to take witnesses when we do our renewal. The only thing that has changed for us is that we no longer can submit the income letter from the embassy so, yes, now there is extra paperwork which is quite simple to get from the bank.

We do all of them except witnesses every year, so I guess you are a know it all 🙄. Every immigration department is different in Thailand, or are you still ignorant of this fact.  What benefit do I have to lie 😂.  Another day, another TV know it all.  My wife is also a well known actress in Thailand, and we still have to go through this.  You should ask questions instead of attack people smart man.

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1 hour ago, tomauasia said:

They are issued my embassy cant refuse me l asked. But they said they won't accept it possibly.. I can also prove my income on Citibank app to embassy. As l discussed with the embassy. Thanks

Okey, and what did you just say? If you are from one of the countries this news regards, then you embassy will not issue the letter no more. If you are from a country where they still issue the income verification letter, then that will be accepted by immigration.

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27 minutes ago, Mr Smithy said:

I did - The OP is NOT proof and is grossly misleading as those of us who deal with Phuket Immigration know.

 

30 minutes ago, Mr Smithy said:

 

No idea what you're talking about. Phuket immigration accepts proof of income from abroad. Your statement ' It is a fact that Phuket immigration will only accept 400K Baht in a Thai bank, income from employment(verified by Thai tax records) or an embassy letter which is no longer available to Australians, Americans  or Brits. ' is simply not correct.

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16 hours ago, stevenl said:

Very clear. He could not proof his income, therefore rejected.

Goto to Laos, Savannakhet. No proof of income required.

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Just now, stevenl said:

 

No idea what you're talking about. Phuket immigration accepts proof of income from abroad. Your statement ' It is a fact that Phuket immigration will only accept 400K Baht in a Thai bank, income from employment(verified by Thai tax records) or an embassy letter which is no longer available to Australians, Americans  or Brits. ' is simply not correct.

Do you live in Phuket and have you secured an extension based on marriage using monthly income from abroad? -- If not keep quiet 

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3 minutes ago, Mr Smithy said:

Do you live in Phuket and have you secured an extension based on marriage using monthly income from abroad? -- If not keep quiet 

Been living here some time now, and know many people  getting an extension of stay on income from abroad.

 

'If not keep quiet', please control yourself.

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16 hours ago, Kopitiam said:

Exactly.

Embassy letters were a farce to begin with since they simply accepted what the expat gave them.  They were also a secondary document.  

 

For an expat to prove (not proof) his income he had to show his bankbook deposits and the deposits had to originate from outside of Thailand.  It is really quite simple. Every month the Social Security Administration transferred $2,400 to my account at BKB in New York that was immediately available in Thailand (unless there was a bank holiday as the conversion to Bhat happened in Bangkok.)   

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56 minutes ago, Russell17au said:

You are talking a load of rubbish. I am on a marriage extension and I have never had to supply any photo's of us on the bed. We were only visited by immigration on the original application. I have only ever had to give 4 photo's per year and one of those photo's must be outside the house showing the house number. Since the original application we have never been visited by immigration and we do not have to take witnesses when we do our renewal. The only thing that has changed for us is that we no longer can submit the income letter from the embassy so, yes, now there is extra paperwork which is quite simple to get from the bank.

Agreed

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3 hours ago, madmitch said:

I think you are right but what the covoluted Phuket News article fails to state is whether the American did have sufficient money in the bank. If he does have the funds he'll be fine, if he doesn't he's screwed.

No coz he can use an Agent and the corrupt immigration will give him a visa no money required, but he needs to open an acc with whatever bank the agent wants before his visa expires.

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5 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Been living here some time now, and know many people  getting an extension of stay on income from abroad.

 

'If not keep quiet', please control yourself.

Please explain why I and three others I know were refused.

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Here is but one more true tale for the list:  An American sought to acquire a "Non O-A 'Long Stay' Visa" from the Thai Embassy in Washington, DC.  The professional services of a Thai company in Bangkok were commissioned to assist in the production of the application package.  This expat had made flight reservations during October 2019 to depart the USA on December 31st.  The completed application was mailed from Florida to the Embassy's Visa Section during early November.  On December 13th an Embassy staff member telephoned stating that the applicant failed to read the information on the Embassy's website, and did not include a new Foreign Insurance Certificate (FIC) (health insurance), and also did not qualify with monthly income.  Clearly the FIC was not included because the applicant knew nothing about the new requirement.  The applicant's medical / health insurance is perhaps one of the best available and would cover anything in Thailand.  However, although the applicant's three (3) months of bank statements show a monthly pension income well beyond and in excess of the amount the Thai government demanded, the applicant's end-of-month balance was below what the Thai official desired.  Following this unfortunate encounter, the applicant emailed the Embassy begging for the opportunity to remedy the problems.  Finally on December 30th a very kind official brought the then completed application package before the Embassy's Consular; and it was again denied only because the bank statement's end-of-month balance was "not enough".  So, even though the current Thai law pertaining to income requires a 'bank balance' "OR" a monthly qualifying income amount in excess, the Visa application was denied.  It apparently matters not if the applicant was purchasing 'gold', investing in a business or real estate, or acquiring valuable 'antiquities' at home, with his/her money from that very substantial pension.  Apparently what was actually demanded was that a 'minimum bank balance be in the bank' no matter what a "retiree" actually receives with their lifetime guaranteed pensions.  Footnote:  The required Passport for the next day's flight was sent by a very kind Embassy staff member, who graciously visited a local FedEx office on his lunch break to send it overnight via FedEx which the applicant happily paid $91.00 USD for; and the trip to the beautiful Kingdom did take place as scheduled.

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