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Those van drivers seem to be always on the clock, speeding as there is no tomorrow !

Hope the injured will recover soon.

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Negligence as usual.  1000 baht fine, and 5000 to each victim...next

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What the video does show is how flimsy these minibuses really are.

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22 hours ago, Tracechain said:

Would it be too terribly naive to remotely wonder if the van has any type of collision hospitalization insurance?

What on earth is "collision hospitalization insurance?"

 

Do you mean fully-comprehensive commercial carrier liability insurance? Being Thailand, I would wager that most minivans are insured as individual, private-hire vehicles, same-same cars and the only legally mandated insurance is the Por Ror Bor, all 650-ish baht of it. I recall it's good for 30 k baht max/injured party.

 

I read that according to the Tourism Business and Guide Act, tour operators are required to provide tourists insurance coverage of at least 1 million baht per tourist in case of death and 500,000 baht in case of injury. Failing this, they face fines of at least half-a-million baht. However, providers of ad-hoc minivan services may not be classed as a 'tour operator' especially if the tour operator sub-contracts or hires a privately-owned minivan for carriage.

 

But I do hope to be pleasantly surprised that it isn't the case but one think I stopped doing years ago in the blighted Realm was holding my breath.

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4 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

... Being Thailand, I would wager that most minivans are insured as individual, private-hire vehicles, same-same cars and the only legally mandated insurance is the Por Ror Bor, all 650-ish baht of it. I recall it's good for 30 k baht max/injured party. ...

 

CTPL covers only medical expenses with limited coverage when you cause the accident. It is up to 80,000 baht for injury and 300,000 baht for death–if it’s not the driver’s fault. When the driver is the cause of the accident, the coverage decreases to 30,000 baht for injury and 35,000 baht for death.

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7 hours ago, Destiny1990 said:

Luckily the Van has full triple A insurance and the tourists will receive full free medical care and financial compensation payment or am i too optimistic?

I always take out holiday insurance wherever I go. I would hope that would cover me

for treatment in this instance, regardless of any insurance the taxi may or may not have.

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34 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

CTPL covers only medical expenses with limited coverage when you cause the accident. It is up to 80,000 baht for injury and 300,000 baht for death–if it’s not the driver’s fault. When the driver is the cause of the accident, the coverage decreases to 30,000 baht for injury and 35,000 baht for death.

It's meant to have orange plates to have proper insurance, so it seems an illegal taxi

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12 hours ago, saengd said:

That driver had no idea how to control a skid, he'd be hopeless on snow or ice, if he'd turned into the skid he could probably have retained control.....it's a training thing..

Lucky he lives in Thailand then, not much chance of encountering snow or ice.  Probably why they don't include it in their "training".

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13 hours ago, saengd said:

That driver had no idea how to control a skid, he'd be hopeless on snow or ice, if he'd turned into the skid he could probably have retained control.....it's a training thing..

 

He was already veering right. With the van's center of gravity, and the force from the turn, he was already staged to come around.

 

9 hours ago, saengd said:

I disagree! If he'd blown a front tyre I might agree.

 

Contrary to popular belief, it is better to have a front tire blow. With a blown front tire, one still has some control over the wheel. With a read tire, it's on its own. 

On a trip to Chantaburi, I had my left front explode. Not one to park on the expressway, I was able to easily drive a couple kilometers to exit. Had it been a rear, I would have been all over the place, trying to compensate for the rear's wobbling.

Another hot tip. If you have a flat on the freeway / expressway, drive off the freeway / expressway. Yes, you will destroy the tire. However, once a tire goes flat, and it is resting on the rim, the tire is dangerously damaged and needs replacement anyway.

Case in point:

I had bought this car used. After my experience with the blowout, I asked the former owner if the tire had ever gone flat. It had. I imagine that the flat damaged the cords, which later separated.

 

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52 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

It's meant to have orange plates to have proper insurance, so it seems an illegal taxi

It has blue chauffeur plates. 

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50 minutes ago, Curt1591 said:

It has blue chauffeur plates. 

white plate with blue writing is chauffeur?

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Judging by the video I can't imagine they were wearing seat belts. 

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9 minutes ago, BobbyL said:

Judging by the video I can't imagine they were wearing seat belts. 

You would never have guessed they would fly out the back door

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Whereas I fully agree with everything said about most drivers of these busses. In possible mitigation in this instance, 8 passengers is not overloading and from looking carefully at the video, immediately before loosing control, a black mark appears on the road which is possible a tyre blowout so, in this instance, it was possibly not entirely the driver at fault.

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16 hours ago, kcpattaya said:

"British" tourists?

Really?

British passport holders

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