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i STILL did not apply for an extention based on retirement (non O visa), and i am glad i did not,

as every few days i learn about another requirement, and i guess how frustrating it would be

to go all the way to the immigration office with all documents ready, just to discover

that another paper is missing.

this time i learned that i must come to the application with a rental aggreement, and that the

period must be no less than 3 months, and that hotel addresses are not accepted

and also the property owner better be thai or foreigner with work permit.

so my question is: seriously? is that really neccasary? also in bangkok immigration?

 

and the second question is: is it neccasary to show that the source of funds comes from abroad, also

when renewing a retirement visa extention? for example, i i got the first extention, and a year later

i add funds to the thai bank account to the required 800K baht, does this addition also need

to be from overseas??? OR CAN I DEPOSIT CASH?

 

AND one last pazzle: the requirements list states that all documents regarding the bank letters must be

prepared and signed by the bank ON THE SAME DAY OF THE APPLICATION...( Documents under 5.1, 5.2 and 5.3

must be issued and updated to be the same date of the Application )...HOW on earth is that possible?

must i go to the bank to prepare all those documents and than run quickly to chaeng wattana immigration office, before

the day is gone?

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24 minutes ago, SCOTT FITZGERSLD said:

i STILL did not apply for an extention based on retirement (non O visa)...

 

Are you saying that you entered Thailand with a non-O visa and received permission to stay for 90 days?

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27 minutes ago, Maestro said:

 

Are you saying that you entered Thailand with a non-O visa and received permission to stay for 90 days?

no, i am saying that i intend to enter thailand with a 30 days visa waiver and than apply for the non-O and later for the extention.

obviously if i had the non-O visa i would'nt be asking all those questions.

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2 hours ago, SCOTT FITZGERSLD said:

period must be no less than 3 months, and that hotel addresses are not accepted

and also the property owner better be thai or foreigner with work permit.

??? Now this is getting out of hand.  I have many long term hotels in mind where I would be staying and planning to get long term rate.  3 months I could do for a lease/agreement.  Assuming they give me such paperwork.  I don't sign anything long term anywhere as I have many living situations change in my life so I don't commit much.  But really now not accepting hotel for living?  What is left?  Condos or house rentals?  Trying to force foreigners to buy units?  Buy house but of course can't buy land?  What is going on?

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I applied for my 1 year extension at CW last October. I got the bank letter from Kasikorn on Saturday and applied for my extension on Monday. I updated my bank book and made copies downstairs while I waited for my queue number to be called. All very easy.

 

That October extension was my second extension at CW and I have never been asked to prove that the 800k came from abroad.

 

I should add that I arrived on an O-A visa in 2017. I got an additional 9 months permission to stay on that visa due to a trip to Cambodia during the first year. I had had my 800k deposited for at least a year before applying for my first 1 year extension. 

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1 hour ago, gk10002000 said:

Now this is getting out of hand.  I have many long term hotels in mind where I would be staying and planning to get long term rate.  3 months I could do for a lease/agreement. 

Not sure where he is getting info from. There is no requirement for a 3 month lease agreement.

The reason for them being strict about proof you are living in Bangkok is to prevent people from being able to travel to Bangkok to apply for the non immigrant visa there.

 

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2 hours ago, ubonjoe said:

The reason for them being strict about proof you are living in Bangkok

so what must i show to them as "rental aggreement"? I DO

Stay in bangkok but i stay on one month contract condo, and the contract does not

look like a contract but more like a receipt for payment...

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2 hours ago, ubonjoe said:

Not sure where he is getting info from

i saw it in a port here, titled M87 form was rejected (because the landlord was from hong kong and the IO in jomtien wanted to see work permit of the landlord...you ubunjoe replied also there

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2 hours ago, Martyp said:

I have never been asked to prove that the 800k came from abroad.

i think the "bank letter" includes a confirmation in thai language that the 800K came from abroad

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22 minutes ago, SCOTT FITZGERSLD said:

i think the "bank letter" includes a confirmation in thai language that the 800K came from abroad

No. The letter for the 800k method just states that you have an account and states the account balance at the time of the letter. I have to do a same day bank book update to confirm that the balance hasn’t dipped below the requirement. People typically prove that money was transferred from abroad by the wire transfer coding on their Thai bank statement. People using the monthly income method get a different bank letter verifying foreign origin and monthly transfer amounts and dates. I’ve read of some people using their Transferwise paper trail to prove foreign origin. I’ve never seen anyone prove foreign origin using ATM receipts.

 

Also, for years now, I have transferred money from Bank of America to Kasikorn and the transfer code is always a domestic transfer because it gets to my account through an intermediary Thai bank. I have over two years of transfers specifically coded as domestic transfers not foreign.

 

To prove my address I get an affidavit from the US Consulate in Bangkok. It’s just a blank affidavit form. I write a single sentence stating my address. The Consulate  notarizes it and that is what I bring along with my other extension documents. You might try that. I bring my rental agreement with me but I’ve never been asked to show it.

 

 

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4 hours ago, gk10002000 said:

??? Now this is getting out of hand.  I have many long term hotels in mind where I would be staying and planning to get long term rate.  3 months I could do for a lease/agreement.  Assuming they give me such paperwork.  I don't sign anything long term anywhere as I have many living situations change in my life so I don't commit much.  But really now not accepting hotel for living?  What is left?  Condos or house rentals?  Trying to force foreigners to buy units?  Buy house but of course can't buy land?  What is going on?

Maybe a room  from some of those Hotels that also call themselves Mansions? A Hotel/Mansion I often use in BKK has foreign residents  long  term. But I have no idea on what basis.

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I just did my 90 days in Kanchanaburi. Renewal due March. Asked about everything as no Embassy letter now. Was given attached as the requirements.

Actually in writing!!

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19 minutes ago, DPKANKAN said:

I just did my 90 days in Kanchanaburi. Renewal due March. Asked about everything as no Embassy letter now. Was given attached as the requirements.

Actually in writing!!

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when you say 90 day i guess you mean the non -0 visa. than i read the requirements you menioned and again i find new pazzles, for example, what is "medical certificate"?

never heard on that one.

and what the hell is "rental aggreement with landlord i.d. photocopy"?

my "land lord" - the owner of the condominium building - looks so nervous and scary that

the last thing i can imagine is to ask him for his i.d. photocopy. he could not care less

if i will stay or leave his property. so what than?

my fear is that i will have to travel back and thourth to the immigration office, with all new requirements and documents that i can't provide, and aventualy will not get any extention

and will stuck with 800k BAHT  in the thai bank.

what a nightmare !!

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14 minutes ago, SCOTT FITZGERSLD said:

for example, what is "medical certificate"?

Some odd immigration offices want a medical certificate that can be easily obtained at a clinic.

 

14 minutes ago, SCOTT FITZGERSLD said:

and what the hell is "rental aggreement with landlord i.d. photocopy"?

That is required at many immigration offices for proof of residence. Most offices want a copy of the rental agreement (aka contract) and signed copies of the owners house book and ID card signed by them.

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