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4 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

Things have certainly changed within the past year. They closed the Thai immigration booth at the train station in Malaysia.

There have been many posts about it since it happened.

Please supply some sort of valid reference, all the sources I have looked at are still showing things as they were.

Please also explain if you enter Thailand through the road border post, how do you get back into the station to catch the train.

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27 minutes ago, sandyf said:

Please supply some sort of valid reference, all the sources I have looked at are still showing things as they were.

I would say this is good proof of it. What are your sources that say otherwise.

18 hours ago, SpanishExpat said:

Ok then maybe I missed it. I came by train from KL...so i guess it was the main station.  There was 100% no border control directly at the station. They directed me trough that no mans land border, where I also saw all other farangs who were in the train with me. I asked 3 different guys, if there was a border control directly at the station and everyone told me to take the walk through the bridge. 

 

27 minutes ago, sandyf said:

Please also explain if you enter Thailand through the road border post, how do you get back into the station to catch the train.

You go to the train station on the Thai side of the border.

Screenshot of this map. https://goo.gl/maps/rrozB4xxGvpF26NF9

 

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I found it simpler to get the train to Hat Yai then walk down the street to an agency and book a ride on a minibus.  That took me to the Thai-Malaysian border where I would grab a motorcycle taxi to take me through the Thai-Malaysian border, that is Customs and Immigration on both sides then get taken to Duty Free.  After buying my stuff, the motorcycle would take me back and I would go through Customs and Immigration on both sides then get taken back to get another minivan back to Hat Yai station.  Sounds complicated but very simple really.  Used to wait a couple of hours on the station eating KFC, available near the station, with a couple of Chang beers and get the train back to BKK.

'nuf sed.

 

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21 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

I would say this is good proof of it. What are your sources that say otherwise.

 

You go to the train station on the Thai side of the border.

Screenshot of this map. https://goo.gl/maps/rrozB4xxGvpF26NF9

 

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This website is dated 22/10/2019, are you saying it is wrong.

https://railtravelstation.com/2019/10/22/special-express-46-international-express-padang-besar-malaysia-to-bangkok-hua-lamphong-by-train/

 

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26 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

You go to the train station on the Thai side of the border.

 

Why would you go to Padang Besar(Thai) when the ticket is from Padang Besar.

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43 minutes ago, sandyf said:

 

Why would you go to Padang Besar(Thai) when the ticket is from Padang Besar.

I am sure the trains do not cross to the Malaysian side of the border now. They stop on the Thai side and you have to enter Malaysia at the border checkpoint now and vice versa.

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5 hours ago, ubonjoe said:

I am sure the trains do not cross to the Malaysian side of the border now. They stop on the Thai side and you have to enter Malaysia at the border checkpoint now and vice versa.

I am fairly sure you are wrong, why would you get off the train before your destination and then have to walk 2 kilometres to your destination.

On what date are they supposed to have stopped crossing the border? The current SRT timetable for the Hat Yai shuttle still shows the train stopping at Padang Besar(Thai) before arriving at Padang Besar. Every indication that the SRT ticket office is still on the platform at Padang Besar.

I have checked many websites now and not one of them indicates any change since I last went in Dec 2018.

I think people have become confused over the border issue as some of the websites do say the train does not cross the border but since 2016 the International express and the Hat Yai shuttles have physically crossed the border and were to all intents and purposes still in Thailand. Only one platform has ever been used and now instead of passing through into Malaysia the trains head back to Hat Yai, where the international express joins the other carriages before heading to Bangkok.

One thing is for sure, I will find out for certain shortly.

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Train times & tickets – Kuala Lumpur to Bangkok

There are two stages to the journey by train from Kuala Lumpur to Bangkok. The first stage of the journey is to travel by Malaysian train services to the border with Thailand. The second stage of the journey is by Thailand train services from the border to Bangkok. If the trains run according to schedule you can complete the journey by train from Kuala Lumpur to Bangkok in 23 hours 30 hours.


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Train Times to Bangkok

The earlier post I made gave info from Bangkok to Georgetown.  My mistake as I should have been the other way around.  Just found the following on the internet.  It is a pity that people rely on others instead of doing some research of their own because it takes very little time to do it instead of reading what may be misleading or incorrect.  Any mistakes/omissions are not mine but the fault of the writer of the publication.

'nuf sed.

  • Stage 1 of the journey by train to Bangkok is from Kuala Lumpur to Padang Besar on the border with Thailand. There are five trains to choose from, although the 09:44 and 11:40 departures coincide inside best with the direct train service for the next stage of the journey.
Train Kuala Lumpur Padang Besar Service
9202 06:45 12:08 ETS Platinum 
9420 09:44 15:05 ETS Gold
9204 11:40 17:03 ETS Platinum
9422 18:12 00:49 ETS Gold
9424 23:22 05:01 ETS Gold
 
  • For stage 2 of the journey there is only a single direct train per day from Padang Besar train station to Bangkok. If you miss this connection then your alternative is to take a taxi across the road border into Thailand and then take one of the frequent shuttle trains from the Padang Besar train station to Hat Yai. There are several trains from Hat Yai to Bangkok every day. NB: Malaysia time is one ahead of Thai time so Train 9204 which arrives in Padang Besar at 17:03 Malaysia time is actually scheduled to arrive 57 minutes before the departure of Train #46 at 17:00 Thai time.
Train Padang Besar Bangkok Service
46 17:00 10:10 Special Express
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3 hours ago, wotsdermatter said:

Train times & tickets – Kuala Lumpur to Bangkok

There are two stages to the journey by train from Kuala Lumpur to Bangkok. The first stage of the journey is to travel by Malaysian train services to the border with Thailand. The second stage of the journey is by Thailand train services from the border to Bangkok. If the trains run according to schedule you can complete the journey by train from Kuala Lumpur to Bangkok in 23 hours 30 hours.


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Train Times to Bangkok

The earlier post I made gave info from Bangkok to Georgetown.  My mistake as I should have been the other way around.  Just found the following on the internet.  It is a pity that people rely on others instead of doing some research of their own because it takes very little time to do it instead of reading what may be misleading or incorrect.  Any mistakes/omissions are not mine but the fault of the writer of the publication.

'nuf sed.

  • Stage 1 of the journey by train to Bangkok is from Kuala Lumpur to Padang Besar on the border with Thailand. There are five trains to choose from, although the 09:44 and 11:40 departures coincide inside best with the direct train service for the next stage of the journey.
Train Kuala Lumpur Padang Besar Service
9202 06:45 12:08 ETS Platinum 
9420 09:44 15:05 ETS Gold
9204 11:40 17:03 ETS Platinum
9422 18:12 00:49 ETS Gold
9424 23:22 05:01 ETS Gold
 
  • For stage 2 of the journey there is only a single direct train per day from Padang Besar train station to Bangkok. If you miss this connection then your alternative is to take a taxi across the road border into Thailand and then take one of the frequent shuttle trains from the Padang Besar train station to Hat Yai. There are several trains from Hat Yai to Bangkok every day. NB: Malaysia time is one ahead of Thai time so Train 9204 which arrives in Padang Besar at 17:03 Malaysia time is actually scheduled to arrive 57 minutes before the departure of Train #46 at 17:00 Thai time.
Train Padang Besar Bangkok Service
46 17:00 10:10 Special Express

You are quite right about doing your own homework, but even then you have to be careful, this statement from your post is extremely misleading.

 

"If you miss this connection then your alternative is to take a taxi across the road border into Thailand and then take one of the frequent shuttle trains from the Padang Besar train station to Hat Yai."

 

The shuttle trains from Padang Besar to Hat Yai are anything but frequent, there are 2 a day, one in the morning and one in the afternoon which is a couple of hours before the 46. I would doubt if there are any trains from Padang Besar(Thai) to Hat Yai after the 46. I suspect the only alternative would be to travel by road, or stay the night.

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7 hours ago, wotsdermatter said:

Any mistakes/omissions are not mine but the fault of the writer of the publication.

 

3 hours ago, sandyf said:

this statement from your post is extremely misleading.

Obviously, you did not read correctly my post or you would have noted the above inclusion.

As stated, any mistakes, etc., were not of my making but were those of the original poster of the timetable.  My posting was done in order to assist by providing information regarding train times and the procedure.  Instead of muddying the waters why not provide reasons why the information is incorrect instead of leaving things dangling because you  give the impression that you know all about the trains and the procedure.  We try to help when people seek assistance and do not like or appreciate those making requests for help then "knocking" what has been provided without them providing anything to back up their statements.

'nuf sed.

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Since the Malaysian network was upgraded, Thailand trains no longer run into Malaysia (apart from the Oriental Express). The train from Hat Yai terminates at PB. There are both Thai and Malaysian Immigration kiosks on the platform.

 

However, coming from Malaysia. Everybody walks up the the hill and crosses the border there... then takes the bus to Hat Yai.

 

Worth mentioning though, PB is not a friendly border. You would be better to enter at Sadao. There are buses from Ipoh and KL which arrive in Hat Yai town centre, near the train station. They will stop just south of Sadao... passport handed over to the driver and returned about 30 minutes later with landing card completed. Never seen anyone on the bus with problems at Sadao immigration. Bus fare: 50 MYR (approx)

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14 hours ago, wotsdermatter said:

 

Obviously, you did not read correctly my post or you would have noted the above inclusion.

As stated, any mistakes, etc., were not of my making but were those of the original poster of the timetable.  My posting was done in order to assist by providing information regarding train times and the procedure.  Instead of muddying the waters why not provide reasons why the information is incorrect instead of leaving things dangling because you  give the impression that you know all about the trains and the procedure.  We try to help when people seek assistance and do not like or appreciate those making requests for help then "knocking" what has been provided without them providing anything to back up their statements.

'nuf sed.

I did note your inclusion and apologise if you think I was implying it was attributed to you.

I would agree that every attempt should be made to make the information as accurate as possible, why I posted the timetable.

Again I apologise if you thought my post was a dig at you, it certainly wasn't.

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On 1/21/2020 at 9:41 AM, ubonjoe said:

I would say this is good proof of it. What are your sources that say otherwise.

 

You go to the train station on the Thai side of the border.

You were wrong to take something said as some sort of proof.

I arrived at Padang Besar yesterday morning on train No 45 from Bangkok and can confirm that the immigration facilities at the station operate in exactly the same way as they have done for many years, apart from the introduction of fingerprinting and X ray machines.

I got off the train and walked the few yards into Thai immigration, they have 3 desks and all were manned but everyone had to queue at the same desk. Down the passage to the Malaysian desks and stamped into Malaysia, luggage through the X ray and then over to the men in white suits for thermal imaging and passport check. I have a Chinese visa that they picked up on until they saw it was 6 months old, getting on for an hour to get into the station concourse.

I went back to the station a few hours later and bought a ticket for the Hat Yai shuttle, preferred to wait a bit in Hat Yai than at the station. Formalities were effectively the reverse of arrival, Malaysian immigration does not open for departing passengers until inbound passengers have been processed. You are then stamped out and pass through to Thai immigration and then on to the platform where officers ensure you go straight on to the train. The train doesn't leave until all passengers have cleared immigration.

It is fairly obvious that some that have travelled by road from Thailand to Padang Besar, or from Padang Besar station to Thailand by road, have failed to grasp the procedure for rail travellers and have been disseminating false information.

 

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On 1/19/2020 at 2:56 PM, recom273 said:

Be warned you now have to go over the bridge and walk through up to immigration, through no-mans land, it’s a bit of a trek, there used to be a desk in the platform. 

Incorrect information.

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On 1/20/2020 at 2:10 PM, SpanishExpat said:

Crossed that border last year in September. After getting off the train, you walk over the bridge to the Malaysian border. Stamp out, walk 5 min trough no-mans land, until you get to the Thai border. I know that there`s also a train on the Thai side, but no clue from where it departs.

 

You only walk over the bridge if going by road. Train to Thailand goes from the same station, you go downstairs to platforms 1 & 2.

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