transam Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 3 minutes ago, steve187 said: what does an alternator knock out They vary, my Vigo was I think 13.6, car now is 13.9.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 12 minutes ago, Don Mega said: What stuff on the plates does the charger move? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Mega Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 4 minutes ago, transam said: hahahahaha,the comments on that vid !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 6 minutes ago, Don Mega said: hahahahaha,the comments on that vid !! At least you learned about Lead Sulphate.....???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Mega Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 Just now, transam said: At least you learned about Lead Sulphate.....???? I learned the video is a wank. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fruit Trader Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 29 minutes ago, steve187 said: what does an alternator knock out I believe its up to 16v or higher for ECU controlled charging and around 14.5 or less for conventional alternator regulators. ECU controlled charging should in theory improve battery life but a battery will still suffer if allowed to repeatedly discharge below safe levels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, Don Mega said: I learned the video is a wank. Really, lead sulphate is of no interest to you then, just move on....???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fruit Trader Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 11 minutes ago, Don Mega said: I learned the video is a wank. Which is what the majority of YouTube commenters are doing down in mom's basement. TVisa also has its fair share. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Mega Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 12 minutes ago, transam said: Really, lead sulphate is of no interest to you then, just move on....???? I don't doubt for 1 second it is an issue but if the vehicle charging system is in good condition the issue is nothing as dramatic as what you make it out to be.... maybe back in the 60's sure but not in these modern days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Mega Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Fruit Trader said: Which is what the majority of YouTube commenters are doing down in mom's basement. TVisa also has its fair share. To be honest I read a video's comments before deciding to watch the vid. I'd say atleast 50% of TV member's are posting on the forum from their Mums basement.... of the remaining 50%, 20% of those are forum admin trolling to keep threads alive. Leaving 30% genuine TV posters actually living in Thailand. Edited January 18, 2020 by Don Mega 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 10 minutes ago, Don Mega said: I don't doubt for 1 second it is an issue but if the vehicle charging system is in good condition the issue is nothing as dramatic as what you make it out to be.... maybe back in the 60's sure but not in these modern days. You mean, they don't have lead in batteries in this modern age..? ???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stouricks Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 1 hour ago, transam said: My ol' Vigo battery got charged near every month or so, the charger took a few hours to get it up to scratch.....???? I don't bother with my now weeee car as I bought a higher amp battery that would fit.. My 'old' 2012 Vigo is on it's second battery. NEVER have I had to charge it from a charger. There was summat wrong with yours. A higher amperage battery still needs putting back what starting took out. Once the engine is running, the battery is redundant if your alternator and fan belt are both OK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, stouricks said: My 'old' 2012 Vigo is on it's second battery. NEVER have I had to charge it from a charger. There was summat wrong with yours. A higher amperage battery still needs putting back what starting took out. Once the engine is running, the battery is redundant if your alternator and fan belt are both OK. I never charged the battery every month because it had a problem, I did it to keep lead sulphate off the plates so it lasted longer...???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stouricks Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Don Mega said: I use torque pro app on my phone reading from a bluetooth OBDII dongle and according to it iam at 12.7v with the engine off and 14.5v with the engine running. Sorry, but the alternator will not 'knock out' anything if the engine is off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frequentatore Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 How old is the battery? When buying a new one or anything else, use a permanent marker or write down the date somewhere... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Mega Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 35 minutes ago, transam said: You mean, they don't have lead in batteries in this modern age..? ???? Thats how you read my post ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Mega Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 30 minutes ago, stouricks said: My 'old' 2012 Vigo is on it's second battery. NEVER have I had to charge it from a charger. There was summat wrong with yours. His alternator is only putting out 13.6v...... but its a battery issue !! 25 minutes ago, stouricks said: Sorry, but the alternator will not 'knock out' anything if the engine is off. No sheet sherlock. The "alternator gauge" on the APP reads 12.7 with just the ignition on and jumps to 14.5 when the engine is running, hope that clarifies it for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Mega Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 (edited) 36 minutes ago, transam said: I never charged the battery every month because it had a problem, I did it to keep lead sulphate off the plates so it lasted longer...???? Batteries suffer from sulfate build up from constantly being drained, if it is an issue you should look at what is draining your battery, sort that first then look at your charging system (13.6v is adequate but could be better) and sort that. Edited January 18, 2020 by Don Mega Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 6 minutes ago, Don Mega said: Batteries suffer from sulfate build up from constantly being drained, if it is an issue you should look at what is draining your battery, sort that first then look at your charging system (13.6v is adequate but could be better) and sort that. I haven't got any issues except battery longevity, I cured it the best I could with the rides daily usage type....... PS. I sold it last year...???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVENKEEL Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 Hopefully bickering about a dead battery isn't in my retirement future. Who know's…. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Mega Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, transam said: I haven't got any issues except battery longevity, I cured it the best I could with the rides daily usage type....... PS. I sold it last year...???? Yes, daily driving to keep the battery topped up will keep sulfate build up at bay............... who woulda thunk it !! Edited January 18, 2020 by Don Mega Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Mega Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 8 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said: Hopefully bickering about a dead battery isn't in my retirement future. Who know's…. I aint retired but I do like poking the dinosaurs !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 1 minute ago, Don Mega said: I aint retired but I do like poking the dinosaurs !! Takes one to know one, perhaps.....???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunBENQ Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 30 minutes ago, tweedledee2 said: I also know sulfate isn't spelled with a "p". Useless bickering. This is not a US only forum. Some use proper Oxford style. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 35 minutes ago, tweedledee2 said: In my 5+ years of reading TV topics there seem to be a growing contingent of know-it-all posters whose general knowledge is obtained from sources such as Google, Wikipedia and YouTube. Many, use these resources to enhance their lack of general knowledge on many topics they post too. Some of the comments that have strayed from this OP's topic, validate my conclusions. I admit and accept the fact that I don't know everything, but I do know a lot about some things and a little about a lot off things. I also know sulfate isn't spelled with a "p". It is spelled "Sulphate" in the English language....????........???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Mega Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 13 minutes ago, transam said: Takes one to know one, perhaps.....???? Its a safe bet you are much older than me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stouricks Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 (edited) 56 minutes ago, Don Mega said: His alternator is only putting out 13.6v...... but its a battery issue !! No sheet sherlock. The "alternator gauge" on the APP reads 12.7 with just the ignition on and jumps to 14.5 when the engine is running, hope that clarifies it for you. Still cannot understand how the alternator is showing an output voltage if the engine is not running. Please explain. I guess the alternator is in parallel with the battery in some way, so the 12.7 volts is coming from the battery. Edited January 18, 2020 by stouricks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Mega Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 Just now, stouricks said: Still cannot understand how the alternator is showing an output voltage if the engine is not running. Please explain. I guess the alternator is in parallel with the battery in some way, so the 12.7 volts is coming from the battery. You'd have to take that up with the designers/programmers of the app. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stouricks Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Don Mega said: You'd have to take that up with the designers/programmers of the app. So basically the app is useless. Get an old fashioned AVO and put that across the alternator, see what it reads. What is the name of the app so that I can a) get in touch with the designers/programmers and b) not buy the app. Edited January 18, 2020 by stouricks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Mega Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, stouricks said: So basically the app is useless. Get an old fashioned AVO and put that across the alternator, see what it reads. What is the name of the app so that I can a) get in touch with the designers/programmers and b) not buy the app. Torque Pro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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