rooster59 Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 Weinstein jury seated after prosecutors accuse defence of excluding white women By Gabriella Borter and Brendan Pierson Film producer Harvey Weinstein exits New York Criminal Court during his sexual assault trial in the Manhattan borough of New York City, New York, U.S., January 17, 2020. REUTERS/Eduardo Munoz (Reuters) - Lawyers in Harvey Weinstein's New York rape trial finished selecting 12 jurors on Friday to decide the former Hollywood producer's fate, as prosecutors renewed an accusation that the defence had unfairly tried to block white women from serving on the jury. The jury, comprised of six white men, three black women, one black man and two white women, is set to hear opening arguments next week. Weinstein, the 67-year-old producer of Hollywood hits such as "The English Patient" and "Shakespeare in Love", has pleaded not guilty to assaulting two women. He faces life in prison if convicted. Since 2017 more than 80 women have accused Weinstein of sexual misconduct dating back decades. He denies the allegations, saying any sexual encounters were consensual. The accusations against him helped fuel the #MeToo movement, in which women have publicly accused powerful men in several industries of sexual abuse. Lawyers seated two white female jurors on Friday after Weinstein's defence team had exhausted their opportunity to eliminate potential jurors who did not exhibit explicit bias against the defendant or otherwise seem unfit to serve. Three legal experts said the defence appeared to assume white women would be more likely to sympathise with Weinstein's accusers. Weinstein is charged with assaulting two women, Mimi Haleyi, who is white, and an anonymous accuser whose race is unknown. At least one other white female accuser, U.S. actress Annabella Sciorra, is expected to testify. "It looks like their thought process is that a white woman would have more of an affinity to the victims," said Michael Bachner, a defence lawyer who is not involved in the case. As potential jurors were eliminated on Thursday and Friday, prosecutor Joan Illuzzi accused Weinstein's lawyers of systematically striking "every white female" from the pool. "They are systematically eliminating a class of people from this jury," Illuzzi said on Friday. Weinstein's lawyers cited specific reasons for excluding each white woman. One had a father and brother in the FBI, and would be biased because she was "surrounded by law enforcement," said defence lawyer Arthur Aidala. One was a model, like some of Weinstein's 80 accusers. Another had a photo of a women's march posted prominently on her Facebook profile, and a "social media influencer" daughter, the defence said. Justice James Burke allowed the challenges without giving a reason. "We are here to try to pick a fair jury," Donna Rotunno, Weinstein's lead attorney, said on Thursday. "This is not some conspiracy against the state." Lawyers can excuse an unlimited number of potential jurors if they show explicit bias for or against Weinstein. Beyond that, both sides can use "peremptory" challenges to reject jurors they believe will be unsympathetic, without providing a reason. Lawyers typically get three peremptory challenges, but in this case each side was given 20. Weinstein's lawyers used roughly half of their peremptory challenges to excuse prospective white female jurors who had not otherwise been excused for bias or rejected by prosecutors. It is illegal to use peremptory challenges to eliminate potential jurors on the basis of sex, race, ethnicity or religion. Jill Taylor, who works for a trial consulting firm, said the defence's reasons for dismissing the white women appeared to be legitimate. "To the extent you know someone's an activist or you know that someone is a model, those factors are going to weigh more heavily than just someone's basic demographics in decision-making," Taylor said. "Straight demographics are not generally predictive of how someone is going to hear a case." (Reporting by Gabriella Borter and Brendan Pierson; Editing by Noeleen Walder and Daniel Wallis) -- © Copyright Reuters 2020-01-18 Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking Thailand news and visa info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BritManToo Posted January 18, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 18, 2020 1 minute ago, rooster59 said: Three legal experts said the defence appeared to assume white women would be more likely to sympathise with Weinstein's accusers. I'm not a legal expert, but I'd agree with them. Although I'd say 'man haters' rather than 'women sympathisers'. 3 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GinBoy2 Posted January 18, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 18, 2020 I think from what most of us have seen and read, no amount of Spin Doctoring from his expensive legal team of the jury pool is gonna get him off 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopDeadSenter Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 11 hours ago, rooster59 said: "It looks like their thought process is that a white woman would have more of an affinity to the victims," said Michael Bachner, a defence lawyer who is not involved in the case. This is quite offensive. The suggestion that white women in general sympathize with greedy and immoral woman that prostitute themselves for material gain and fame is patently false. Weinstein is looking like the real victim here, the women all got what they wanted from the deal. Honest actresses that didn't sleep their way into the role are also victims. A sorry show all round. 1 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDark Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 This is how it ends for the people who abuse their powers and abuse, not protect the people who are weaker than they are. His last thoughts of life will be about all the women he had sex with. However not as good memories, but as bad memories. In afterlife he will suffer for what he has done. A gentle reminder to those, who abuse others even here in Thailand. Yes, you. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bluespunk Posted January 18, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 18, 2020 After his trial I sincerely hope this creature never sees the outside of gaol again. And yes I know he hasn’t be tried yet, I also freely admit I could not serve on any jury trying this wretch. 4 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tug Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 Somebody forgot to tell harvy the casting couch is illegal thease days and the walker isent getting you any simpathy lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted January 18, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 18, 2020 13 hours ago, BritManToo said: I'm not a legal expert, but I'd agree with them. Although I'd say 'man haters' rather than 'women sympathisers'. You’ve said nothing meaningful about the women you don’t know and a great deal about yourself. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mogandave Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: You’ve said nothing meaningful about the women you don’t know and a great deal about yourself. Well you’ve certainly added a lot to the discussion. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 1 hour ago, TopDeadSenter said: This is quite offensive. The suggestion that white women in general sympathize with greedy and immoral woman that prostitute themselves for material gain and fame is patently false. Weinstein is looking like the real victim here, the women all got what they wanted from the deal. Honest actresses that didn't sleep their way into the role are also victims. A sorry show all round. “greedy and immoral woman that prostitute themselves for material gain” Your evidence to back this up, or are you too keen to expose your own problems by hurling misogynistic abuse at women you don’t know? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted January 18, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, mogandave said: Well you’ve certainly added a lot to the discussion. Calling out baseless abuse has its value. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDark Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 1 hour ago, TopDeadSenter said: This is quite offensive. The suggestion that white women in general sympathize with greedy and immoral woman that prostitute themselves for material gain and fame is patently false. Weinstein is looking like the real victim here, the women all got what they wanted from the deal. Honest actresses that didn't sleep their way into the role are also victims. A sorry show all round. If you are one of those who use God's intentions in vain and abuse people, men or women, who are weaker than you, let me tell you son, you are about to get into one hellowa ride. You have abused people. You have abused the word of God. You have abused the trust of your kind. You shall meet the decider one day. On that day onwards, you will suffer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 Troll post reported and removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mogandave Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 19 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: Calling out baseless abuse has its value. Thanks, I do what I can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritManToo Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, TopDeadSenter said: This is quite offensive. The suggestion that white women in general sympathize with greedy and immoral woman that prostitute themselves for material gain and fame is patently false. Weinstein is looking like the real victim here, the women all got what they wanted from the deal. Honest actresses that didn't sleep their way into the role are also victims. A sorry show all round. It would be nice if you were right, and the world would be a better place if you were right, but I think you underestimate the power of greed. Edited January 18, 2020 by BritManToo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyF Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 14 minutes ago, TheDark said: If you are one of those who use God's intentions in vain and abuse people, men or women, who are weaker than you, let me tell you son, you are about to get into one hellowa ride. You have abused people. You have abused the word of God. You have abused the trust of your kind. You shall meet the decider one day. On that day onwards, you will suffer. Nut job or troll ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KC 71 Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 I wonder if he ends up on someone else's casting couch when he’s in the slammer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scouse123 Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 16 hours ago, GinBoy2 said: I think from what most of us have seen and read, no amount of Spin Doctoring from his expensive legal team of the jury pool is gonna get him off They said that about OJ Simpson and Michael Jackson. 14 hours ago, TheDark said: If you are one of those who use God's intentions in vain and abuse people, men or women, who are weaker than you, let me tell you son, you are about to get into one hellowa ride. You have abused people. You have abused the word of God. You have abused the trust of your kind. You shall meet the decider one day. On that day onwards, you will suffer. What has your imaginary God got to do with this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 On 1/18/2020 at 7:26 PM, Bluespunk said: After his trial I sincerely hope this creature never sees the outside of gaol again. And yes I know he hasn’t be tried yet, I also freely admit I could not serve on any jury trying this wretch. No you couldn't serve because you've already decided without hearing real evidence. And that is a classic example of how anyone can be sucked into trial by media and the court of popular manipulated opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 On 1/19/2020 at 11:29 AM, Scouse123 said: They said that about OJ Simpson and Michael Jackson. What has your imaginary God got to do with this? How very trendy of you, to use the trendy phrase "your imaginary God". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritManToo Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 On 1/18/2020 at 9:35 PM, KC 71 said: I wonder if he ends up on someone else's casting couch when he’s in the slammer How attractive do you find 60 year old balding fat guys? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 1 hour ago, Baerboxer said: No you couldn't serve because you've already decided without hearing real evidence. And that is a classic example of how anyone can be sucked into trial by media and the court of popular manipulated opinion. I know I couldn't serve, that's what I said... I believe him guilty as hell and would say so. I hope he is never released. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scouse123 Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 4 hours ago, Baerboxer said: How very trendy of you, to use the trendy phrase "your imaginary God". Used the phrase for as long as I have been an Atheist which is many years, nothing to do with being trendy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evadgib Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 How is it possible for this bloke to get a fair trial after all the adverse publicity? What about Kevin Spacey? His career was ruined but has he actually seen the inside of a court yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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