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Im from Europe, mid 30, and have been staying in Thailand for 11 months now on 3 Exempts and 2 SETV Visas, all entries extended. This is my first stay in Thailand, i don’t have any previous history. I am planning to get a proper Visa in my home country later this year. But i will not return there until the end of March. So i need two more months since my current exemption will end soon.

 

Next week i will be in Taiwan for a week and i have a return flight to Don Mueang.
I read a lot of stories about tourists with a long stay in LOS that get denied entry there. I know the decision is completely up to the immigration officer and nobody can really tell how it will turn out for me. But i guess its very likely that i will run into problems. I will of course provide proof of funds (20k+), accommodation and a flight out of Thailand.

 

I still have a few questions regarding this topic:

 

- If i would book an international flight from Don Mueang to another country on the same day of my arrival do i need to go through Thai immigration or can i just wait for my next flight inside the airport?

 

- The airline that brought me to LOS is responsible to take me back to Taiwan if my entry/exempt is denied, right? And if Taiwan would then deny my entry (they require a return flight which i might not have on arrival) i would be send back to Thailand and from there to my home country?

 

-  Whats your personal opinion, should i cancel the flight and fly to Malaysia instead, entering by land border, or just try the exempt at Don Mueang first?

 

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You asked for opinions and that's all that can be given. There are no "set rules.

IMO you most likely will be denied entry at Don Mueang. The airline will fly you to where you embarked. Most likely at your expense. 

I would fly somewhere like KL and enter via border. Depending on where your staying in Thailand you might choose to fly KL to Vientiane (cheap flights) and enter via friendship bridge. You get 2 entries via border per calendar yr so you must have both available.

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OP, couple of added comments. Regarding booking another international flight that won't work you will clear immigration with first ticket. 

As for being returned to where you embarked and refused entry there, next step would be your home country. Some folk will tell you at airline expense. Good luck with that. 

I'm not being negative, fact is basically you have been almost continuous in los for 11 months. You must have used border entries for last 3+ months or perhaps flown into CNX

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The chances of being denied entry are  entirely possible given your recent history and age. Entering with a Tourist visa would help.

 

You shouldn’t have any issue using a land border.

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Thanks for the answers. Yes i used both border entries last year and i am well aware that my 11 month stay as tourist is very problematic, especially if i enter by air.
Unfortunately Taiwan doesnt issue tourist visas, but if i go the KL route i might try to apply for one in KL or Penang. Altough from what i read the embassies probably wont issue me another one with my recent history.
 

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1 hour ago, JA5ON said:

Thanks for the answers. Yes i used both border entries last year and i am well aware that my 11 month stay as tourist is very problematic, especially if i enter by air.
Unfortunately Taiwan doesnt issue tourist visas, but if i go the KL route i might try to apply for one in KL or Penang. Altough from what i read the embassies probably wont issue me another one with my recent history.
 

I agree. Think many consulates would reject setv. Then you would have a void stamp. IMO enter via border. You could try a flight from say KL into CNX to enter visa exempt. Think you might have chance with that. Risky.

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Stay out of the Thailand until you fly home.  Anything else is likely to get you flagged. 

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4 hours ago, JA5ON said:

Unfortunately Taiwan doesnt issue tourist visas, but if i go the KL route i might try to apply for one in KL or Penang. Altough from what i read the embassies probably wont issue me another one

If you can meet KL's published requirements, I think applying there is worth a shot despite your history. Especially if you have (or will have) the ticket for your flight back home already - that should help.

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16 minutes ago, Caldera said:

If you can meet KL's published requirements, I think applying there is worth a shot despite your history. Especially if you have (or will have) the ticket for your flight back home already - that should help.

He stated that intends returning home country end of March. The setv, even if approved in KL is not of that much benefit and risk void stamp. He imo can not fly into DM with or without visa 

11 months in los long time in los on tourist visas and visa exempt all extended. 

BTW think ticket out for setv is required in any event. Can't see how that helps.

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thanks again, i probably will go to Penang via KL and then cross the border there to Hat Yai.
There are some visa agencies in Penang so i plan to visit them and ask for their opinion regarding another SETV.

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14 hours ago, DrJack54 said:

He stated that intends returning home country end of March. The setv, even if approved in KL is not of that much benefit and risk void stamp. He imo can not fly into DM with or without visa 

11 months in los long time in los on tourist visas and visa exempt all extended. 

BTW think ticket out for setv is required in any event. Can't see how that helps.

See here's the thing, based on reports I don't think he would get a void stamp in KL even if denied. Personally, I think he would get another SETV there, even considering his history.

 

If obtaining a SETV is an actual benefit to the OP depends on his plans later this year. If he plans to return to Thailand, not having wasted a land border visa exempt might prove beneficial.

 

A flight out is indeed one of the requirements. My point was that a flight back home looks better than yet another flight to a nearby country.

 

I agree that flying into DMK wouldn't be wise, with or without a visa.

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A SETV would save me a trip to the immigration in bangkok for the extension, and from what i read Tourist Visas do "look better" in my passport than exempts.

But i would apply for it in Penang, not in KL. I could use one border run from there. If there is an "trouble free" aiport in the south i might try that.

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There seems to be many long-term stayers on tourist visa who aren't really tourists.

 

I see everytime they create new accounts so they won't be detected.

 

Immigration is getting tough on long-term stayers who aren't genuine tourists. Word of advice is to get a long-term visa , the days of border runs are over.

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45 minutes ago, EricTh said:

I see everytime they create new accounts so they won't be detected.

Detected by whom? And what's the benefit of avoiding that? All that really matters is Thai immigration, and your "account" with them is for life!

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