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49 minutes ago, MrMilk said:

I contacted the Thai embassy requesting to apply for a Visa but was declined since its less than 6 months on my passport.

That is a standard requirement to apply for a single entry tourist visa or even a single entry non-o visa.

 

For entry to Thailand you only need a passport valid for the length of stay is why the IATA states it is OK for your nationality. But some airlines that are not a member of the IATA have the 6 month rule in their terms and conditions (Air Asia has it).

 

What airline are you flying to Utapao on? Check with them what their requirements are for passport validity.

There are no reports of Utapao being as bad for entry to the country as the airports in Bangkok are.

If denied entry you would have to fly from there to another country.

 

IMO your best option might of been to fly into a neighboring country and enter at a land border crossing. Edit: But they all require 6 months of passport validity.

 

Edited by ubonjoe
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OP, sounds like you might be using Vietjet. Pretty sure they require 6 month validity of pp.

Bit surprised you even flew to DM airport..

You should be flying to somewhere like Vientiane or KL and enter via border.

It's only Jan so you must have visa exempt border entry available.. 

 

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OP, in relation to airline. The airline will look in your passport for visa or reentry permit. Not have one they will request to see onward flight within 30 days (most likely). Also check expiry of pp. Think you need talk with airline after which grab a bus.

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From the VietJet website. https://www.vietjetair.com/Sites/Web/en-US/NewsDetail/travel-document/ 2689/travel-document

"2. On international flights:

2.1. Passengers on Vietjet international flights shall submit Passport; valid Departure/Arrival documents in accordance with destination country’s regulations. Normally, the passport shall be valid within 6 months since the date of entry."

It also mentions the IATA requirements that show that Thailand only requires a passport for entry to the country for those from certain countries (mostly those that qualify for visa exempt entry).

Thailand is the only country within ASEAN that allows entry without 6 months of validity. I have researched it and Hong Kong is the nearest place that only requires one valid for the length of stay.

 

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8 minutes ago, ChouDoufu said:

sounds like you're planning to stay long time.  don't expect you can get a 'marriage visa' with an expiring passport.

 

renew your passport at the norwegian embassy in hanoi.

Pretty sure OP currently in Saigon. It's unpleasant but he may end up busing it Saigon to Thailand.

Obtain visa exempt at border. With an extension would give him couple months to sort out future plans and obtain new pp in bkk. 

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3 minutes ago, ChouDoufu said:

sounds like you're planning to stay long time.  don't expect you can get a 'marriage visa' with an expiring passport

Not sure what you are calling a "marriage visa".

A single entry non-o visa requires 6 months passport validity. A multiple entry non-o visa requires  at least 12 months (18 on MFA website) validity.

A extension of stay requires that a passport to be valid for the length it is valid for or they will only issue it up to the date passport expires.

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1 minute ago, DrJack54 said:

Pretty sure OP currently in Saigon. It's unpleasant but he may end up busing it.

How would he enter the countries he has to travel through to get here with less than 6 months of passport validity.

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1 minute ago, ubonjoe said:

How would he enter the countries he has to travel through to get here with less than 6 months of passport validity.

So he needs the 6 month passport validity at Cambodian and Thai borders? 

Wasn't aware of that. Thought it was just airline requirement. 

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1 minute ago, DrJack54 said:

So he needs the 6 month passport validity at Cambodian and Thai borders? 

Cambodia requires 6 months of passport validity. Same for Laos and every other ASEAN country other than here.

Thailand does not but some border crossing have been know to say 6 months is required.

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21 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

Not sure what you are calling a "marriage visa".

A single entry non-o visa requires 6 months passport validity. A multiple entry non-o visa requires  at least 12 months (18 on MFA website) validity.

A extension of stay requires that a passport to be valid for the length it is valid for or they will only issue it up to the date passport expires.

how will he get in without a visa?  don't embassies require 6 months validity to issue one?  and coming in air or land, with 400 days in country and a denial stamp?  even if an airline will normally transport with less than 6 months remaining, surely that stamp will cause problems.  they don't wanna be on the hook for flying him back to vietnam which is likely.  aren't all the airports computerized and linked now?  he needs a 'proper' visa, right?

 

'marriage visa' would be whatever visa or extension of stay based on marriage -- that he apparently can't get with an expiring passport.  seems getting a new passport --and a proper visa -- in vietnam would reduce the stress factor immensely.

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Thanks for all the replies guys.

 

I fly with Vietjet.

Been in contact with them via phone and the lady I spoke to was not sure. After some back and forth she concluded "No, probaly not". I sent 2 emails, but 4 days later I still havent received a reply.

From reading their TC it say "normally" require 6 months which made me decide to just book the ticket and take the risk of being turned down. Its only 1600 thb and defiently the easiest/cheapest option to try to get to Thailand.

 

If I get denied to fly, will this happen at check-in (before immigration) , or can it happen at boarding (after immigration)?

 

If its before immigration then no worries, 1600 thb lighter but thats all too. If it happens after immigration I assume it can get quiet messy and expensive.

 

I contacted the embassy in Hanoi the first week here. I was told 2-3 weeks wait until the passport would arrive. I also had to wait for almost 1 week to get an appointment (consular hours). 

This again would mean around a month in Vietnam, and still I wouldnt be sure if I received the passport before my Visa expired.... 

 

The passport will be renew in Bangkok (If I get there).

 

Seems overly risky to leave Vietnam with bus. Stuck in between immigration in Vietnam and Cambodia with a expired passport sounds unsafe. 

Also if I get entry to Cambodia from Vietnam, but then refused entry in Thailand, I will once again stand at immigration in Cambodia needing a entry stamp.

Sounds pricy and unsafe.

 

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1 hour ago, ubonjoe said:

How would he enter the countries he has to travel through to get here with less than 6 months of passport validity.

Correct. From all the information I have gathered the only option for me seems to be South Korea, Japan, or out of Asia, if refused in Thailand

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1 hour ago, DrJack54 said:

OP, in relation to airline. The airline will look in your passport for visa or reentry permit. Not have one they will request to see onward flight within 30 days (most likely). Also check expiry of pp. Think you need talk with airline after which grab a bus.

I only have a return ticket to Ho Chi Minh on the 25th Jan that I purchased before my bounce-back trip 😄

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