UK PM Johnson to impose new restrictions on low-skilled migrants post-Brexit: Telegraph

[vogie]

6 minutes ago, samran said:

Smart Alec? No, me thinks you have issues being questioned.

 

If anything, it was a rhetorical question. 

Judging by the amount of posters that pull you up about your insults and your dislike of the UK, I would suggest otherwise.

[samran]

20 minutes ago, vogie said:

Judging by the amount of posters that pull you up about your insults and your dislike of the UK, I would suggest otherwise.

Thanks for that input, Twenty Two.
 

But yours and a few other track record of basically misinterpreting and reading out context everything I say is pretty evident. 
 

It’s the thin skinned response typical of what you see of politicians in any half arsed tin pot dictatorship. If you can’t agree, you must be ‘anti (insert nationality here). 

Edited January 20, 2020 by samran

[vogie]

41 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Your post is an opinion piece, written by a Leave Supporting Labour MP.

 

Is he a member here?

Sorry got a little side tracked, welcome back by the way.

 

This piece is written by the Guardians economics editor Larry Elliott, you may be more sympathetic to this broadsheet, and if you won't believe The Guardian, who will you believe.

 

"Don’t be fooled – the EU is no defender of workers’ rights

The Delors message was instantly popular. Ron Todd, the general secretary of the Transport and General Workers Union summed up the prevailing mood when he said “the only game in town is in a town called Brussels”. Judging by the debate over the Brexit withdrawal bill, that sentiment remains powerful 31 years on. All week Labour MPs have been lining up to say that only by staying closely aligned with the EU can the socially progressive rights that Brussels has delivered be protected. There is one problem with this idea: it is complete nonsense."

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/oct/24/eu-workers-rights-capital-multinationals

 

 

 

 

[talahtnut]

With so many unemployed, there is little incentive to maintain

workers rights. Compulsory retirement at 40 is the answer, something

similar was promised in the early 60s, a three day working week,

thus solving the unemployment and workers rights problem.

All pensioners choosing to live abroad in Thailand should be given

1M pounds..Housing crisis solved.

[samran]

1 hour ago, vogie said:

Sorry got a little side tracked, welcome back by the way.

 

This piece is written by the Guardians economics editor Larry Elliott, you may be more sympathetic to this broadsheet, and if you won't believe The Guardian, who will you believe.

 

"Don’t be fooled – the EU is no defender of workers’ rights

The Delors message was instantly popular. Ron Todd, the general secretary of the Transport and General Workers Union summed up the prevailing mood when he said “the only game in town is in a town called Brussels”. Judging by the debate over the Brexit withdrawal bill, that sentiment remains powerful 31 years on. All week Labour MPs have been lining up to say that only by staying closely aligned with the EU can the socially progressive rights that Brussels has delivered be protected. There is one problem with this idea: it is complete nonsense."

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/oct/24/eu-workers-rights-capital-multinationals

 

 

 

 

“Britain’s labour market has been reshaped over the past 40 years by deregulation, privatisation and anti-trade union laws, not by the limited protections delivered by the EU, which are weaker in practice than they sound in principle”

 

So the normally over interfering EU did the right thing for plucky little Britain on this one?
 

Left them to their own devices and let the UK shoot themselves in the foot on workers rights. 
 

This is sovereignty right?
 

Which is strange cause I was led to believe the EU were champagne socialists all intent on creating a federated Europe.

 

Now this article is telling me the EU are nothing more than pro business Tories with strange accents? 

Edited January 20, 2020 by samran

[overherebc]

6 hours ago, talahtnut said:

With so many unemployed, there is little incentive to maintain

workers rights. Compulsory retirement at 40 is the answer, something

similar was promised in the early 60s, a three day working week,

thus solving the unemployment and workers rights problem.

All pensioners choosing to live abroad in Thailand should be given

1M pounds..Housing crisis solved.

If pensioners were given a million pounds and came to live in Thailand within a year they would be married to some impoverished farmers daughter, be a father at 70, probably not their offspring, and walking the streets in Pattaya looking for a bar with balloons outside. ????????.

[talahtnut]

12 hours ago, overherebc said:

If pensioners were given a million pounds and came to live in Thailand within a year they would be married to some impoverished farmers daughter, be a father at 70, probably not their offspring, and walking the streets in Pattaya looking for a bar with balloons outside. ????????.

There are some things money can't change.

[SheungWan]

On 1/20/2020 at 5:21 AM, vogie said:

Sorry got a little side tracked, welcome back by the way.

This piece is written by the Guardians economics editor Larry Elliott, you may be more sympathetic to this broadsheet, and if you won't believe The Guardian, who will you believe.

"Don’t be fooled – the EU is no defender of workers’ rights

The Delors message was instantly popular. Ron Todd, the general secretary of the Transport and General Workers Union summed up the prevailing mood when he said “the only game in town is in a town called Brussels”. Judging by the debate over the Brexit withdrawal bill, that sentiment remains powerful 31 years on. All week Labour MPs have been lining up to say that only by staying closely aligned with the EU can the socially progressive rights that Brussels has delivered be protected. There is one problem with this idea: it is complete nonsense."

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/oct/24/eu-workers-rights-capital-multinationals

The Guardian is not a broadsheet and newspapers are not to be blindly 'believed', though some Hard Brexiteer readers of the Express and nutty websites consume their information that way.

[SheungWan]

17 hours ago, overherebc said:

If pensioners were given a million pounds and came to live in Thailand within a year they would be married to some impoverished farmers daughter, be a father at 70, probably not their offspring, and walking the streets in Pattaya looking for a bar with balloons outside. ????????.

 

5 hours ago, talahtnut said:

There are some things money can't change.

Except having a good time.

[vogie]

11 minutes ago, SheungWan said:

The Guardian is not a broadsheet and newspapers are not to be blindly 'believed', though some Hard Brexiteer readers of the Express and nutty websites consume their information that way.

Most of remainers (although they are all Brexiteers now) swear by the Guardian, it is their paper of choice, it tells them what they want to hear especially from that nutcase Owen Jones.

 

"The Guardian moved in September 2005 to what is described as a 'Berliner' format, slightly larger than a compact. Its Sunday stablemate The Observer followed suit. Both The Guardian and The Observer now use the tabloid format, having done so since January 2018.^[1] Despite these format changes, these newspapers are all still considered 'broadsheets'."

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_newspapers_in_the_United_Kingdom

 

 

[SheungWan]

10 hours ago, vogie said:

Most of remainers (although they are all Brexiteers now) swear by the Guardian, it is their paper of choice, it tells them what they want to hear especially from that nutcase Owen Jones.

"The Guardian moved in September 2005 to what is described as a 'Berliner' format, slightly larger than a compact. Its Sunday stablemate The Observer followed suit. Both The Guardian and The Observer now use the tabloid format, having done so since January 2018.^[1] Despite these format changes, these newspapers are all still considered 'broadsheets'."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_newspapers_in_the_United_Kingdom

Hard Brexiteers making things up again. Guardian readership a small percentage of Remainers, not that any facts are allowed to ever take precedence over a Brexiteer imagination. About as useless as imagining that Hard Brexiteers are on board for a softer Brexit completion. And as for the dreadful thought of what the Brexiteer nuts read. Ho hum.

[Thongkorn]

he Should start with Londistan , many people of the Religion of peace who have no intention of integrating and asimulating into british way of life, They want to change Our way of life while accepting infidels Social Security.

[vogie]

4 hours ago, SheungWan said:

Hard Brexiteers making things up again. Guardian readership a small percentage of Remainers, not that any facts are allowed to ever take precedence over a Brexiteer imagination. About as useless as imagining that Hard Brexiteers are on board for a softer Brexit completion. And as for the dreadful thought of what the Brexiteer nuts read. Ho hum.

Just because you don't read the Guardian and share it's left wing values(????) doesn't make it a small %age.

Suffice to say that there are no remainers anymore, we are all leavers and isn't that exciting.

BTW, what do you mean by a softer Brexit, does that equate to a half in, half out nonsense, we have parliamentary democracy now you know, which you don't seem to mention as much as you used to do?????

[SheungWan]

1 hour ago, vogie said:

Just because you don't read the Guardian and share it's left wing values(????) doesn't make it a small %age.

Suffice to say that there are no remainers anymore, we are all leavers and isn't that exciting.

BTW, what do you mean by a softer Brexit, does that equate to a half in, half out nonsense, we have parliamentary democracy now you know, which you don't seem to mention as much as you used to do?????

Hard Brexiteers too lazy to come up with any figures, approximate or otherwise. That's why they make things up. As for not understanding the difference between Hard and Soft Brexit, well that has always been key to the Hard Brexiteer fantasies. So let's make it very simple for them. Hard Brexit on January 31 would have been exiting the EU without an exit agreement and no transitional arrangements. Not going to happen. Boris sold that one prior to the Election. Sorry chaps.

[SheungWan]

3 hours ago, Thongkorn said:

he Should start with Londistan , many people of the Religion of peace who have no intention of integrating and asimulating into british way of life, They want to change Our way of life while accepting infidels Social Security.

Usual provincial junk from the UK outer zones.

[vogie]

2 hours ago, SheungWan said:

Hard Brexiteers too lazy to come up with any figures, approximate or otherwise. That's why they make things up. As for not understanding the difference between Hard and Soft Brexit, well that has always been key to the Hard Brexiteer fantasies. So let's make it very simple for them. Hard Brexit on January 31 would have been exiting the EU without an exit agreement and no transitional arrangements. Not going to happen. Boris sold that one prior to the Election. Sorry chaps.

What figures are you particular seeking, let me know and I will do my utmost to oblige.

 

You know better than anyone on here (but won't admit it) that there is no such thing as a soft Brexit, a soft Brexit is having one foot still in the EUs door of domination, we would still be rule takers and would not have taken back control, which in reality is what the majority of the electorate wants the government to do for us.

 

The rabid remainers have underestimated Boris before, do so at your own peril.

 

Remember, we have parliamentary democracy, although I havn't heard you mention it for 6 weeks now, any reason?

[baansgr]

On 1/19/2020 at 11:17 PM, Chomper Higgot said:

You should take this up with those amongst the forum ‘s Brexiteers who are also rabidly anti union and to worker’s rights.

Tar and brush springs to mind....yep those tattooed knuckle dragging brexiters are demons and should rot in hell

[samran]

2 minutes ago, baansgr said:

Tar and brush springs to mind....yep those tattooed knuckle dragging brexiters are demons and should rot in hell

I’d just settle for having them decide whether the EU is a grand socialist EUSSR conspiracy or an evil capitalist conspiracy to destroy workers rights. 
 

They don’t really know whether they are Arthur or Martha on that front. 
 

 

[Chomper Higgot]

32 minutes ago, baansgr said:

Tar and brush springs to mind....yep those tattooed knuckle dragging brexiters are demons and should rot in hell

“tattooed knuckle dragging”

 

Your words, not mine.

 

You should ask yourself why you resort to inserting such language.

[samran]

10 hours ago, Thongkorn said:

he Should start with Londistan , many people of the Religion of peace who have no intention of integrating and asimulating into british way of life, They want to change Our way of life while accepting infidels Social Security.

....but don’t call them bigots...

Edited January 22, 2020 by samran

[Rimmer]

A flame has been removed

[Thongkorn]

17 hours ago, SheungWan said:

Usual provincial junk from the UK outer zones.

Try looking at Bradford, Luton, Rochdale,  Rotherham London, yes its junk, But we live in the real world not just Londistan,

[SheungWan]

6 hours ago, Thongkorn said:

Try looking at Bradford, Luton, Rochdale,  Rotherham London, yes its junk, But we live in the real world not just Londistan,

Escape route via Luton Airport.