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Advice for girlfriends UK tourist visa application

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16 minutes ago, wavodavo said:

I dont know if Australia is different to UK but with AU probably the criterior that they put the most emphasis on is proving that the applicant has a valid reason to go back at the end of the visa that being a job so they require a letter from their employer stating that they have granted ...leave from ..date and they must return to work on ..date.Other ties such as family ,children or a business also come into it of course.


In the context of Thailand often, having a job complicates matters. Certainly OK for government/national chain employee taking a month or so off to visit the U.K.

 

On this forum we are mainly talking about Thai ladies visiting the U.K. to see their partner/sponsor. Their income is typically only from that source. A well worded covering letter should remove any doubt (of the balance of probability) from the mind of an ECO. For belt and braces get a letter of reference from the Poo Yai Ban..... rarely costs more than a bottle of Regency!
 

The only cases that I have seen, where an application is declined, reasons to return are cited only where an ECO has questioned the genuineness of the relationship ie...he doubts the relationship, ergo he doubts she will return....

 

Children count for little, just look at how many kids are farmed out to family members whilst the Mums earn a living in Pattaya or Bangkok.

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4 hours ago, robertson468 said:

Because she has living relative in Thailand, has land assests and maybe a car?  Stop poo pooing the Guys ambition.  He might, or might not get a UK Visa for his Girl, but that is not for you or me to decide, but what we can do is suggest how he can improve the liklihood of achieving it and there is other valuable and relevent advise by others.  Go for it and the very best of luck!

Nobody is "poo pooing" the guys ambition, as usual rasg is offering meaningful advice when he suggests that the applicant describes who will be looking after the elderly relative in her covering letter, a number of us have suggested that a well drafted covering letter could do the trick, and rasg has gone a stage further and put meat on the bone.
A plot of land isn't a reason to return and a car certainly isn't, the elderly relative might be, with the extra clarification rasg suggests.
With the risk of being shot down, it's the applicant who has to convince the decision maker that she will return at the conclusion of her proposed visit, the OP can't "get a visa for his girl".

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Thanks again guys for the advice! so she has submitted the VAF now and awaiting her appointment at Trendy in Bangkok for biometrics and document scanning.

 

So we have got a copy of her Uncles id card and letter from him (in English) stating he will be taking 3 weeks leave from his job in Bangkok during my girlfriends planned holiday to the UK to come and take over the care of her sick grandmother. Also a letter from gf's mother/father to explain as they work full time on their family farm it means my gf is the sole care provider for her grandmother. Also a letter in English from the hospital stating the grandmothers health issues.

 

So my gf will write a nice short concise covering letter - emphasing the length/genuineness of our relationship, why she wants to visit the UK, explaining her finances/bank statement, and how she is the sole care provider for her grandmother and must return to Thailand after her 3 week holiday.

 

If her application does get rejected then i imagine the only option would be to consider a fiancee Visa for her. Can i ask theoldgit is it accurate what i have been able to glean from online sources that a fiancee visa only looks at my situation - and as i have more than the £62500 in my bank (and have for over the 6months and is immediately accessible)

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1 hour ago, cantaloupe said:

If her application does get rejected then i imagine the only option would be to consider a fiancee Visa for her. Can i ask theoldgit is it accurate what i have been able to glean from online sources that a fiancee visa only looks at my situation - and as i have more than the £62500 in my bank (and have for over the 6months and is immediately accessible)

The main differences between a visit visa and a fiancée visa is that a reason to return is not needed. It is a visa to come to the UK to get married and to live here. Her finances are not that relevant and your savings will be sufficient to cover the financial side of things. She will need a TB test and an A1 language test. You must get married in that six month period and then apply for Further Leave to Remain from inside the UK for her to continue living here. During the fiancée visa she will not be allowed to work.

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On 1/20/2020 at 2:13 PM, cantaloupe said:

Thanks for your replies. So i have heard conflicting stories regarding including photos etc with the application. But she has just produced a brief timelog of photos/messenger chat etc trying to show our relationship is geniune. also flight tickets together, house rentals etc over the last 2 years Also included my bank statements and self assesment tax details, showing i am more than financially able to support her, along with house deeds for my UK property, a letter showing my mortgage paid off, council tax bill etc.

 

so im pretty sure ive nailed it showing a genuine relationship and my ability to support and accomodate her during her holiday.

 

My worry is her lack of financial ties to Thailand, and even though neither of us would want to settle in the UK, im sure the ECO given their quotas of how many they must refuse to keep home office statistics looking rosy, will just say "nah not today thank you"

Listen to to theoldgit, he knows exactly what he's talking about, if she submits any documents, it's a good idea to have them translated into English. 

Good luck 

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It's not all about your circumstances, a big thing they want to see is that she has reason to return to Thailand. My wife, gf at the time when we first applied for tourist Visa, was denied twice after doing the application ourselves so we decided to use a agency(man who owns the agency works at the embassy) you can figure out the rest, he more or less guaranteed her visa, we've just used him for a partner visa for uk, it was granted. Be careful if you keep reapplying if she fails because after so many times, think its 3, you get a ban for a certain amount of time. 

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10 hours ago, PhineusFreek said:

What about all the other farang guys that are sending her money too. She should tell thd immigration about that .

Pathetic post, go and find another topic.

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13 minutes ago, rasg said:

Nobody can virtually guarantee a visa unless they put a good application together and fulfil the requirements needed to get the visa. They decisions are now made in Delhi. How could that work?

 

Each visa application is considered on its own merits and there is nothing to stop you applying as many times as you like as long as you don't lie on an application or falsify a document. When a visa application is refused you must address the reasons for the failure of the application in the next application.

The decisions made in Delhi surely are no different to the ones that were made in Bangkok?

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57 minutes ago, roo860 said:

The decisions made in Delhi surely are no different to the ones that were made in Bangkok?

A very interesting question.  One would hope not, as all ECOs are trained the same way and use UKVI criteria when issuing/denying visas.  When the decision was made in Bangkok, I expect the ECOs were well versed in Thai/farang culture and its impact on 'relationships' (for good or bad!) and this may or may not have played a part in their decision.  Now the Delhi based ECOs have to deal with visas from all over Asia (including India!) and one could assume they are under more pressure and (rightly) treat applications from Thailand in exactly the same way as any other Asian country.

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Around 90% of Visit Visas to the UK from Thailand are approved.

 

You only have to see some of the Thai people on the flights to the UK to know that most aren't exactly the "cream of Thai society" (they are up the front in freebee business seats 😉) so it is possible.

 

Submit a thorough application with evidence showing an "ongoing and subsisting relationship", a genuine "reason to return" and proof of "finances and sponsorship" and your girlfriend will be granted a visa.

 

Good luck.

 

RAZZ

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Well guys, i have had a very good start to Valentines Day. My girlfriend got her passport back this morning, and has been granted a UK Tourist Visa! Took 10 days from her appointment at Trendy to getting her passport delivered to her house, so very efficient service.

 

She did everything herself, and involved no agents. But i was just so careful to make sure we were completely honest and the submitted documents showed exactly what the VAF had. So thank you all for your help.

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