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The ADV150 has hit 1,000km's and its time for it's first oil change.

 

The question is:

 

Do i go for the normal Honda oil - or do i go for synthetic - and why ?

 

got chatting to 2 blokes in a bar a few nights back and got 2 completely different opinions and came away more confused that when i went in....

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You might find that Honda dealers have fully synthetic?

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Go with synthetic and stick with it. I'd try and get a really good deal on synthetic oil as I would change the oil again after burning season. 

 

Edit: "and why"

 

A lot of information on the web on why synthetic (additives) is more superior. Off the top of my head: It lubricates better (less friction = less wear), lowers operating temperature.

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Synthetic costs a lot more but is worth it. Normal oil molecular structure breaks down in time under heat and load. Synthetic does not and so protects better. Make sure you get the correct grade for your application as per owners manual. Do not forget to change the filter as well.

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4 hours ago, DaRoadrunner said:

 Do not forget to change the filter as well.

The ADV150 has an oil filter ?? 

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6 hours ago, Farangwithaplan said:

semi synthetic is fine for an agricultural engine like in the ADV 150

. Synthetic will not hurt but in no way extend the life of your vehicle. If you have the money and are a spend thrift, go for it. If you are frugal, semi is more than adequate.

 

 

Semi is neither fish nor fowl. From Yorkshire? Just go with el cheapo dinosour oil.

 

6 hours ago, Farangwithaplan said:

an agricultural engine like in the ADV 150

Been keeping up with tractors lately? 😎

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4 hours ago, papa al said:

The ADV150 has an oil filter ?? 

has a removeable filter, clean any debris and refit. gauze or wire mesh if i remember right. soak in thinner. rinse repeat.

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There are three types - mineral, semi-synthetic, and full synthetic. Mineral oil is inferior in terms of coefficient of friction. It's the additives put into mineral oil which lower the coefficient of friction. Once the additives break down with time and heat, goodnight nurse.

Full synthetics are esters of fatty acids and various alcohols. The fatty acids react with any exposed metal surface to form a soap, which has a very low coefficient of friction, as anyone who has slipped on a soapy bathtub will know.

Semi-synthetics are a bit of a compromise, cheaper but less effective than a full synthetic.

I don't know about motorbikes. The rule of thumb with cars is mineral, change oil every 5000 km, semi every 10,000 km, full synthetic 15 -20K

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8 hours ago, VocalNeal said:

Been keeping up with tractors lately? 😎

The fact that some agricultural engines may have newer technologies, the point of the matter - and the essence of the post, which you have either not comprehended or selectively chose to avoid for the sake of one up manship - is that the ADV engine is not highly strung and does not need a fully synthetic oil.

 

A semi synthetic has tangible benefits over a mineral oil and with the value between Honda's mineral and semi being much less than that of mineral to fully synthetic it makes sense both economically and mechanically.

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18 hours ago, piston broke said:

The ADV150 has hit 1,000km's and its time for it's first oil change.

Years back! they used to advice against putting full synthetic in an engine until it was fully broken in at ~5,000 km.

As stated full synthetic has better lubricating "properties" its all about whether its worth the expenditure!

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