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Hi! Just returned from a short vacation from Singapore today. I live in Bangkok with a Thai Wife stamp. Do I need to fill out a TM28 and go to immigration within 24 hours? My yearly stamp is due soon so I just want to make sure about what I need to do. There's been so much conflict about this TM28/30 thing that I'm no longer sure which way is up. Thanks in advance!

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Do nothing.

Go home to wife.

I also live bkk. Tm30 seems to have settled down. Many reports for extension tm30 was not asked about. Also my experience. 

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I would suggest reading the entire article here is a relevant excerpt. There are many reports of TM30/28 evidence being asked for at 90 day reporting and at extension renewal time. I don't agree with the "Do nothing" advice. Have your Thai wife sign up on the TM30 website (see link below) and just have her put you in the system at least for your arrival. This will be recorded at your local IO.

https://extranet.immigration.go.th/fn24online/

“No, we don’t hold foreigners responsible for filing the TM30. Foreigners just need to make sure that they fill in a TM28. The TM30 is the landlord’s job,” Phuket Immigration Deputy Chief Col Nareuwat Putthawiro said plainly on Wednesday (Aug 28). The TM30 is the form for landlords to report to Immigration within 24 hours of the arrival of any foreign tenants, as required under Section 38 of the Thailand Immigration Act of 1979. The TM28 form is for foreigners to report themselves to Immigration after staying away from their registered address for more than 24 hours, as required under Section 37 (c) of the same act. “The TM30 is the house owner’s responsibility, whether the home owner is a Thai or a foreigner,” Col Nareuwat said. If a landlord refuses to – or is unable to – comply by filing a TM30 to report the foreigner as staying, or returning to stay, at the foreigner’s registered address, that is not the foreigner’s responsibliity, Col Nareuwat explained. “All the foreigner has to do is submit a TM28. That’s all the foreigner is responsible for. If the foreigner is applying for an extension to stay, they need not worry about whether or not their landlord has reported them through a TM30 – it will not affect the foreigner’s application,” he added.

 

https://www.thephuketnews.com/right-on-time- phuket-immigration-explain-tm30-and-tm28-requirements-for-reporting-foreigners-72693.php#1e9lqE4ZWcrS6CBz.97

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34 minutes ago, Tounge Thaied said:

I would suggest reading the entire article here is a relevant excerpt. There are many reports of TM30/28 evidence being asked for at 90 day reporting and at extension renewal time. I don't agree with the "Do nothing" advice. Have your Thai wife sign up on the TM30 website (see link below) and just have her put you in the system at least for your arrival. This will be recorded at your local IO.

https://extranet.immigration.go.th/fn24online/

“No, we don’t hold foreigners responsible for filing the TM30. Foreigners just need to make sure that they fill in a TM28. The TM30 is the landlord’s job,” Phuket Immigration Deputy Chief Col Nareuwat Putthawiro said plainly on Wednesday (Aug 28). The TM30 is the form for landlords to report to Immigration within 24 hours of the arrival of any foreign tenants, as required under Section 38 of the Thailand Immigration Act of 1979. The TM28 form is for foreigners to report themselves to Immigration after staying away from their registered address for more than 24 hours, as required under Section 37 (c) of the same act. “The TM30 is the house owner’s responsibility, whether the home owner is a Thai or a foreigner,” Col Nareuwat said. If a landlord refuses to – or is unable to – comply by filing a TM30 to report the foreigner as staying, or returning to stay, at the foreigner’s registered address, that is not the foreigner’s responsibliity, Col Nareuwat explained. “All the foreigner has to do is submit a TM28. That’s all the foreigner is responsible for. If the foreigner is applying for an extension to stay, they need not worry about whether or not their landlord has reported them through a TM30 – it will not affect the foreigner’s application,” he added.

 

https://www.thephuketnews.com/right-on-time- phuket-immigration-explain-tm30-and-tm28-requirements-for-reporting-foreigners-72693.php#1e9lqE4ZWcrS6CBz.97

Nonsense. 90 day report has nothing to do with tm30. Full stop. 

OP deals with CW. 

Can you advise personally your recent experience there re 90 day report or attending for annual extension. 

I can and tm30 not even mentioned. Along with many recent reports.

The OP, inquired about next extension due at CW.

When did you do your most recent there?

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1 minute ago, DrJack54 said:

Nonsense. 90 day report has nothing to do with tm30. Full stop. 

OP deals with CW. 

Can you advise personally your recent experience there re 90 day report or attending for annual extension. 

I can and tm30 not even mentioned. Along with many recent reports.

The OP, inquired about next extension due at CW.

When did you do your most recent there?

No. I cannot advise any personal experiences... I have only read others reports on this. And... I don't have those links handy. You're just going to have to trust that I am not lying to you. 

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2 minutes ago, Tounge Thaied said:

No. I cannot advise any personal experiences... I have only read others reports on this. And... I don't have those links handy. You're just going to have to trust that I am not lying to you. 

Did you even read my post.

I was not asked for tm30 late last year at CW.

Many other threads reenforces this.

There were fines of ~ 800baht to folk attending CW several months back. Nothing since.

I still would recommend people attending imm to extend visa exempt or setv at imm to have a tm30.

Also for general stuff like Residence Certificate. 

Not apply to OP

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9 hours ago, John77 said:

Do I need to fill out a TM28 and go to immigration within 24 hours?

A TM28 form is only needed if you change addresses.

There are mixed reports about a TM30 being needed at CW.

Your wife could do a TM30 by mail to Chaengwattana immigration or register online to do at  https://extranet.immigration.go.th/fn24online/ or install the  app on a phone or tablet at https://www.immigration.go.th/content/tm30_mobile_service .

 

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13 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

A TM28 form is only needed if you change addresses.

When I went to Nonthaburi office on moving day to change address, they discarded the TM28 I filled out and made me fill out a TM30 instead (using the app I had already registered with).....every office has its own absurd interpretation of the rules

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10 hours ago, DrJack54 said:

Do nothing.

Go home to wife.

I also live bkk. Tm30 seems to have settled down. Many reports for extension tm30 was not asked about. Also my experience. 

Is this for all extensions that TM30 are not needed anymore, including SETV & METV extensions?

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Thanks everyone. Because of the conflicting info, I decided to go to Chaengwattana today. First, my brief situation. I simply took a short holiday to Singapore for 4 days. I heard over the months that anytime you leave and come back, the TM28/30 thing must be done. Anyway, upon my return from Singapore last night, I sent my apartment owner a note to please check me back in via the TM30 online application. She did and sent me a screen shot. I filled out a TM28 and TM30 form as a just-in-case and went to Chaengwattana this morning.

I explained to the officer that I went on a short holiday and returned last night. She looked at my TM28 and said this form is ONLY used when you change addresses, such as move to another apartment (just as ubonjoe stated). It was not needed for my case. Then she looked at the printout of the TM30 screenshot and told me to go home (just as DrJack54 indicated).

Thanks again all! 

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1 minute ago, John77 said:

Then she looked at the printout of the TM30 screenshot and told me to go home, as DrJack54 indicated.

Right. Now go home because you complied with the TM30 requirement?

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Evidently, I didn't need to do a thing in this case (a short holiday away from home) except to ask my apartment owner to do her part (TM30 online). But since I'm renewing my visa extension next week, I'm glad to have the TM30 screenshot from my apartment owner to show if needed.

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2 minutes ago, John77 said:

Evidently, I didn't need to do a thing in this case (a short holiday away from home) except to ask my apartment owner to do her part (TM30 online). But since I'm renewing my visa extension next week, I'm glad to have the TM30 screenshot from my apartment owner to show if needed.

Right. This is how I understand it. As long as the TM30 is filled out... we don't have to do anything except comply with TM28 should we change our address. 

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Just did mine online yesterday after returning from overseas.

My advice is that for travel within the country it is no longer being pursued by the authorities.. I do wish they would make an official  statement though.

Overseas travel,,,,, ignore at your peril

 

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What's the fine for not filling out a TM28? Never done a TM28 or 90-day report and a TM30 was just filed for me for the first time recently (been staying here since 2018).

 

Getting my next extension soon and totally forgot that TM28 was a thing 😕

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