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2 hours ago, IsaanAussie said:

I have posted detailed numbers several times, as have others. Run a few searches for rice prices etc.

What does the sale price of rice have to do with actual production costs and ROI ??? Oh gee i got 10 bags (unknown kg per bag) of rice per rai this year and sold it and made money but i didnt keep any records of what i spent to grow it. Typical thai farming logic at its best.

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While on rice,I/A did the government come good with the trichoderma for the farmers down your way after the rice blast last season.

 

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31 minutes ago, farmerjo said:

While on rice,I/A did the government come good with the trichoderma for the farmers down your way after the rice blast last season.

 

Haven't heard yet but there was an announcement over the village PA this afternoon. I didn't hear past the mention of rice and government. Will let you know.

 

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2 hours ago, IsaanAussie said:

Growing rice is just something you do, you succeed or not, rice to eat and to plant today, or not.

In other words you have no idea how much you make or lose from growing rice lol now thats farming in thailand.

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32 minutes ago, ireckonso said:

In other words you have no idea how much you make or lose from growing rice lol now thats farming in thailand.

By experience farming, whatever the part of the world where you are

is not an exact science because you are dependent  on things  you

can't control, the most important is the climate.

 

Growing rice is particularly difficult because you are very dependent from

the water, from the rain and/or by irrigation. Plus the sunshine, the wind

( a few strong gusts of wind are enough to lay the ears and spoil an entire harvest)

or others totally unpredictables naturals elements.

 

Seeds and fertilizers are also important variables.

 

Plus the cost of labor, the cost of the material and so on

 

It's very difficult to have regular datas on small lands.

It's probably more easy for big companies with hundreds of ''rais''

but it's not the topic here. 

 

It's why it's very rare to know exactly the ROI on a land

it's depends of the year and of dozens of others things

 

As Issanaussie has posted, if you are lucky you have rice for eat

and few thousand bahts at the end.

If you are not lucky, well AFAIK there is still some subventions

from the governement but i am not sure at all it's enough to cover your loss.

 

The ''good old time'' of the rice scheme with a rice bought to the farmers

at a good price by Taksin (The sister) goverment is long over

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Okay thailand always claims to be the top exporter of rice in the world except the last couple of years but you come up with every excuse in the world to say its impossible to say what a rai of rice will return on x amount of investment. too funny. But i guess thats why every year the poor farmers are going to the gov. with hat in hand because they are not making any money. Yeah farming is profitable in thailand.

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3 hours ago, IsaanAussie said:

We westerners are the ones fixated on budgets.

By the way us westerners are concerned about making a profit to better our families lives, not laying in a hammock most of the year waiting for a gov handout.

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1 minute ago, ireckonso said:

Okay thailand always claims to be the top exporter of rice in the world except the last couple of years but you come up with every excuse in the world to say its impossible to say what a rai of rice will return on x amount of investment. too funny. But i guess thats why every year the poor farmers are going to the gov. with hat in hand because they are not making any money. Yeah farming is profitable in thailand.

Thailand has lost his place of top exporter of rice some years ago

and it's worse years after years.

Climate change, increased labor costs and fertilizer, and 

the desinterest of the youngers generations for something demanding

a lot of work for an hypotetical small benefice is killing it.

All over the country you can see fallow fields

there is thousands of rai for sale

some have already changed for other cultivation  like corn or sugar cane

(With now the problem of air pollution because of the burning)

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Vietnam seems to be doing quite well growing rice but they work hard and are open to new technology and foreign expertise. 

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