stupidfarang Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 Just a general question, I live in a small town (population around 40,000) near Surat Thani and over the last couple weeks have noticed hundreds of CCTV cameras appearing, mostly at round-abouts, entrances to soi's in fact every where. On one main stretch of road covering about 3 klm I have counted 22 CCTV cameras! They are goverment owned and they are all Bosh cctv so not cheap. Just wanted to know if this is happening all over Thailand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike787 Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 I'm seeing them everywhere too...your right....feel like eyes are on me everywhere. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gweiloman Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 I’m all for it. Hopefully, it will deter terrorism down south. It can also be very useful in prosecuting traffic violations, if the government ever gets to that. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Swiss1960 Posted January 22, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 22, 2020 yes, they are everywhere here as they are everywhere in countries like USA, China or UK where governments dont give a sh... about privacy rights and data protection... and i my opinion it is BS to think that it will deterr anybody, specially here in Thailand, just watch the news how people could not care less to be on camera... and the argument "if you have nothing to hide.." is also invalid in my opinion, I have the right for privacy and never agreed to be watched 24-7 10 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Social Media Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 Probably someone's family member and a nice fat envelope from the supplier another from the installer and like that controversy in Bangkok, I doubt they all work ! TiT 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stupidfarang Posted January 23, 2020 Author Share Posted January 23, 2020 10 hours ago, mike787 said: I'm seeing them everywhere too...your right....feel like eyes are on me everywhere. What part of Thailand are you in? just out of interest in the spread of big brothers eyes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stupidfarang Posted January 23, 2020 Author Share Posted January 23, 2020 9 hours ago, Swiss1960 said: yes, they are everywhere here as they are everywhere in countries like USA, China or UK where governments dont give a sh... about privacy rights and data protection... and i my opinion it is BS to think that it will deterr anybody, specially here in Thailand, just watch the news how people could not care less to be on camera... and the argument "if you have nothing to hide.." is also invalid in my opinion, I have the right for privacy and never agreed to be watched 24-7 Yes true, I do not think it will deter people, look at the case of the man who robbed the gold shop and killed innocent people, anyone would know there are cameras there. Interesting programmes on youtube about China's camera sysytem and how they are linked into everything about you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Andrew Dwyer Posted January 23, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 23, 2020 Well it would appear that cctv played a big part in tracking down the Lopburi gold killer, so i am all for it . https://www.thaipbsworld.com/gold-shop-murder-suspects-arrest-a-result-of-joint-effort/ 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stupidfarang Posted January 23, 2020 Author Share Posted January 23, 2020 4 hours ago, Black Ops said: Probably someone's family member and a nice fat envelope from the supplier another from the installer and like that controversy in Bangkok, I doubt they all work ! TiT They may work but will they be maintained/serviced? and is anyoe watching the screens? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stupidfarang Posted January 23, 2020 Author Share Posted January 23, 2020 My main question are people seeing these cameras all over LOS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stupidfarang Posted January 23, 2020 Author Share Posted January 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, Andrew Dwyer said: Well it would appear that cctv played a big part in tracking down the Lopburi gold killer, so i am all for it . https://www.thaipbsworld.com/gold-shop-murder-suspects-arrest-a-result-of-joint-effort/ Yes I think they have a place and use and they are part of life, I have a number of cameras around my house. But what I am surprised by is the very large number of these new Bosh CCTV installations. Just on the two sois I use to get to the local park (4minute drive away) there are 7 cameras. As mention on a 3 klm road I counted 22 cameras. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post neeray Posted January 23, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 23, 2020 17 minutes ago, stupidfarang said: Yes I think they have a place and use and they are part of life, I have a number of cameras around my house. But what I am surprised by is the very large number of these new Bosh CCTV installations. Just on the two sois I use to get to the local park (4minute drive away) there are 7 cameras. As mention on a 3 klm road I counted 22 cameras. I wouldn't be too concerned about the Bosh decal if I were you. Chances are they are made in China for Bosh, thus, carry a little more value because of the name but maybe not excessively. Also, if you are using the correct spelling as seen on the cameras, it may be a case of trickery. The real Bosch is spelled like this. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whiteman Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 Just do not pick you nose any more while you are driving and flick it out of your window at the curb sellers big brother is watching 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike787 Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 3 hours ago, stupidfarang said: What part of Thailand are you in? just out of interest in the spread of big brothers eyes BKK 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sead Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 with the quality of cameras installed by the government, you shouldnt be to scared. But those frome 7eleven and shops i think is of better and why not.. Thai police have solved many cases by just following the perpetrator through cctv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rwill Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 all of the cameras combined with AI recognition systems like this: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/the-secretive-company-that-might-end-privacy-as-we-know-it/ar-BBZ57OT?ocid=spartandhp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballpoint Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 4 hours ago, stupidfarang said: My main question are people seeing these cameras all over LOS? No, you've got it the wrong way round. These cameras are seeing people all over LOS. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stupidfarang Posted January 23, 2020 Author Share Posted January 23, 2020 4 hours ago, neeray said: I wouldn't be too concerned about the Bosh decal if I were you. Chances are they are made in China for Bosh, thus, carry a little more value because of the name but maybe not excessively. Also, if you are using the correct spelling as seen on the cameras, it may be a case of trickery. The real Bosch is spelled like this. I just cannot spell lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stupidfarang Posted January 23, 2020 Author Share Posted January 23, 2020 42 minutes ago, sead said: with the quality of cameras installed by the government, you shouldnt be to scared. But those frome 7eleven and shops i think is of better and why not.. Thai police have solved many cases by just following the perpetrator through cctv Am not scared or worried, just amazed at the number of cameras in our area/city Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legend49 Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 15 hours ago, mike787 said: I'm seeing them everywhere too...your right....feel like eyes are on me everywhere. But do they work?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt1591 Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 5 hours ago, stupidfarang said: My main question are people seeing these cameras all over LOS? I'm seeing them pop up in obscure places around Bangkok. The latest one, at the entrance to our soi, is placed so as to completely block the view of the street sign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacessit Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 There's an assumption they are working, and someone is actually scanning the recordings from them. IMO a low probability of both. Even if we say there's a 50% chance ( p=0.5 ), that means the system is effective only for a quarter of the installations. ( p=0.25 ). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshowJones Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 15 hours ago, Gweiloman said: I’m all for it. Hopefully, it will deter terrorism down south. It can also be very useful in prosecuting traffic violations, if the government ever gets to that. 'if the government ever gets to that.' Of course they will, well the police will when their tea money coffers get low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wwest5829 Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 15 hours ago, Gweiloman said: I’m all for it. Hopefully, it will deter terrorism down south. It can also be very useful in prosecuting traffic violations, if the government ever gets to that. Sorry to see that you support the government, “Big Brother” model of China. Yes, I agree there are benefits of catching the “bad guys” but for my money, I am not willing to foreswear privacy rights in the name of security. I am aware that the US with its blanket “Patriot Act” gives great leeway to the NSA for surveillance but will only support electronic surveillance under an independent court warrant for a justified suspicion. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaiyaTH Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, rwill said: all of the cameras combined with AI recognition systems like this: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/the-secretive-company-that-might-end-privacy-as-we-know-it/ar-BBZ57OT?ocid=spartandhp That is also why they push 5G, together with AI, we will have situations worse than China. No more privacy at all. Not even a concrete wall will help you hiding anymore soon enough. They can already do that with casual WiFi now. Edited January 23, 2020 by ChaiyaTH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ54 Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 12 minutes ago, ChaiyaTH said: That is also why they push 5G 5G... they can barely run 3G .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khunPer Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 16 hours ago, stupidfarang said: Just wanted to know if this is happening all over Thailand? Big Brother is watching you... Actually, the CCTV camera are there to check what happens on roads and in traffic. Often what you see when a traffic accident is mentioned, and a video embedded, comes from one or more of thees. Great way to find out what actually happened, also in case of some criminal action. Some cameras might also be online, so ongoing traffic situation can be checked. No one cares what you do, or follow you on line, as long as you behave in traffic, and you don't get involved in a criminal act – apart from Big Brother's department – and if you do, you might be happy if some of the CCTV cameras are working...???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suradit69 Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 10 hours ago, Black Ops said: Probably someone's family member and a nice fat envelope from the supplier another from the installer ... Quid pro quo is very popular these days. Hardly a day goes by without it being in the news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pdavies99 Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 I would not worry about it...you see they will not be maintained or serviced, they will break down within 6 -12 months and will be another waste of time!! Nothing is serviced in Thailand! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benmart Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 Not my country. If I am so worried, I have the ootion to move. As it is now, I am staying put. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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