GinBoy2 Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 4 minutes ago, candide said: It's a much broader problem of the financialisation of the economy as it may lead to insufficient investment. That how the North-american Telecom industry failed, while European and Chinese companies went on investing. What you talking about? Last time I looked Qualcomm was still the leading designer of cellphone chips in the world, not a European company in sight. Now those same chips may well be manufactured in Taiwan, and assembled into phones in China, but I don't seem to see any European companies involved in any of it. Those same Qualcomm devices are standard in almost every phone, from Samsung to the low cost Chinese phone The European mobile industry had it's day in the era of Nokia & Ericsson in the 90's, but imploded in a spectacular and rapid demise! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candide Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 4 minutes ago, GinBoy2 said: What you talking about? Last time I looked Qualcomm was still the leading designer of cellphone chips in the world, not a European company in sight. Now those same chips may well be manufactured in Taiwan, and assembled into phones in China, but I don't seem to see any European companies involved in any of it. Those same Qualcomm devices are standard in almost every phone, from Samsung to the low cost Chinese phone The European mobile industry had it's day in the era of Nokia & Ericsson in the 90's, but imploded in a spectacular and rapid demise! Qualcomm is doing well, but what about Nortel, Lucent, and Motorola? Bankrupted (Nortel) or sold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinBoy2 Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 (edited) 12 minutes ago, candide said: Qualcomm is doing well, but what about Nortel, Lucent, and Motorola? Bankrupted (Nortel) or sold. So which European are doing well? Well I will modify that, since ARM in the UK probably design's 90% of the processors in todays mobile phones, although they don't manufacture them, but most of all the RF devices are still US designs ......But we are diverging from the topic here Edited January 25, 2020 by GinBoy2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candide Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 38 minutes ago, GinBoy2 said: So which European are doing well? Well I will modify that, since ARM in the UK probably design's 90% of the processors in todays mobile phones, although they don't manufacture them, but most of all the RF devices are still US designs ......But we are diverging from the topic here They are not doing very well but they are still surviving so far. You can read this paper if you are interested. http://www.isigrowth.eu/2017/06/14/innovation-competition-and-financialization-in-the-communications-technology-industry-1996-2016/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinBoy2 Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 1 hour ago, candide said: They are not doing very well but they are still surviving so far. You can read this paper if you are interested. http://www.isigrowth.eu/2017/06/14/innovation-competition-and-financialization-in-the-communications-technology-industry-1996-2016/ Very good article, thanks for sharing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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