Today's Tale of Woe at Jomtien

[Phulublub]

Off to the bank this morning to use ATM, update passbook and obtain letter...all good so far.

 

Down to Jomtien where I have to pick up TM7 - somehow managed to eat, burn or otherwise lose the bank copy I picked up last year.  But no matter; five mintes later back at the desk to pickup my number, 836.  Display at 830 as I sat down and under fifteen minutes later am at the desk .  The the fun begins.

 

I thought I had everything I needed:

 

TM7

photo

Passport

photocopies of orginal "O"Visa, all subsequent extensions, latest entry stamp and TM6.

Bankbook

photocopies of 12 months transactions (I know only 6 months required, but for THB4 in copy fes, why run any risk?  Similarly, I absolutely maintain THB800,000 for three months before although only 2 are required).

Condo Lease

 

Flick, flick, scribble, scribble. Stop.  I had overlooked copying the first page (wth my personal details) of my bank book.  And what did the Imm. Officer do?  Reached over the desk, put my book in his copy machine and made the required copy.  I must be in a dream...Jomtien Imm being helfpul? 

 

Then to passport.  Flick, flick, Stop.  I was unaware of need to photocopy all previous METVs (I had two before I got my "O").  New requirement I think as not remember being asked before.  What did he do?  Over desk again and made the copies.  After the stories here, now quite certain I am in some parellel universe.

 

All good, THB1900 paid, come back tomorrow after 1400.  Thank you Sir ????

 

In and out in under 30 minutes.  Thank you Jomtien Immigration.

 

PH

[gk10002000]

Nice to see that done.  Not nice to see copies of previous copies always being submitted again.  Then the stuff goes in the back room and then??  Surely the Jomtien office must fill up with paper weekly.  Then what?  All paper moved to secure, safe storage area in Pattaya somewhere?  Held for xxx number of days?  Immediately thrown out?  Sent to archiving where everything is scanned and electronic files made of each person?  The latter could come in handy for investigative or research reasons.  Or do they just simply toss every thing out and rely on what they entered in their little database online system(s)?

[kingofthemountain]

27 minutes ago, gk10002000 said:

Nice to see that done.  Not nice to see copies of previous copies always being submitted again.  Then the stuff goes in the back room and then??  Surely the Jomtien office must fill up with paper weekly.  Then what?  All paper moved to secure, safe storage area in Pattaya somewhere?  Held for xxx number of days?  Immediately thrown out?  Sent to archiving where everything is scanned and electronic files made of each person?  The latter could come in handy for investigative or research reasons.  Or do they just simply toss every thing out and rely on what they entered in their little database online system(s)?

They probably have a contract with a recycling paper company

i can easily imagine a truck coming on a weekly basis for 4 or 5 tons of papers.

over a year should be some decent money easily earned for the office.

 

i came to this conclusion because 8 months ago i have moved from a condo

to a new location, i have filled all the forms and given all the copies to Jomtiem 

immigration office for they know my new adress. 5 months ago i have done a trip

in europe so at my return i have filled a TM30 and again given all the forms and copies

needed to Jomtiem immigration office. 3 months ago i have renewed my extension of stay so i have again filled all the forms and given all the copies, included my lease agrement (5 pages) for the 3th time to Jomtiem immigration office.

 

And last month when i was here to do my 90 days report, they still have

the wrong place for my location in their computer  !!!

 

Go figure !!

 

Edited January 23, 2020 by kingofthemountain

[gk10002000]

2 minutes ago, kingofthemountain said:

They probably have a contract with a recycling paper company

i can easily imagine a truck coming on a weekly basis for 4 or 5 tons of papers.

over a year should be some decent money easily earned for the office.

i came to this conclusion because 8 months ago i have moved from a condo

to a new location, i have filled all the forms and given all the copies to Jomtiem 

immigration office for they know my new adress. 5 months ago i have done a trip

in europe so at my return i have filled a TM30 and again given all the forms and copies

needed to Jomtiem immigration office. 3 months ago i have renewed my extension of stay

so i have again filled all the forms and given all the copies, included my lease agrement (5 pages)

for the 3s time to Jomtiem immigration office.

And last month when i was here to do my 90 days report, they still have

my old adress in their computer !!!

Go figure !!

 

I agree the amounts must be huge.  Anybody have any actual knowledge of what they do with all the stuff? 

[gk10002000]

I think I might refresh the hand held scanner my sister gave me for Christmas.  A person could easily amass quite a pile of paper themselves!

[jimn]

9 hours ago, gk10002000 said:

I agree the amounts must be huge.  Anybody have any actual knowledge of what they do with all the stuff? 

Yes. Some of it they use the blank side to photocopy the TM7 etc forms on to. I am not joking. I have many times been given blank forms only to find some unknown persons passport page on the reverse side. So much for data protection over here.

[Suradit69]

21 hours ago, Phulublub said:

I must be in a dream...Jomtien Imm being helfpul? 

Despite what some people claim, I've always found them to be helpful, efficient and pleasant to deal with.

 

But then some farang find the simplest tasks to be overwhelming and cause for endless whining.

 

 

[Jaxxper]

Over the last couple of years I’ve found Jomtien more than helpful. Thanks for giving the positive feedback.

[bert bloggs]

Did my first marriage visa ,after many years retirement ,very ,helpful and polite to my wife .

[jesimps]

Just as it should be.

[Max69xl]

"photocopies of 12 months transactions (I know only 6 months required)"

Is 6 months required because of the new requirements from March 1 2019,or what?

I have never copied more than 3 months of transactions from my bank book. Last year in May only 2 months because of the new requirements. 

[bobonzo]

In Samutprakran the IOs have a copier right next to them at the counter. They had made a few copies for me when I missed something out. I've always found them friendly and helpful.

[Max69xl]

1 hour ago, bobonzo said:

In Samutprakran the IOs have a copier right next to them at the counter. They had made a few copies for me when I missed something out. I've always found them friendly and helpful.

I'm staying in Jomtien, and this is the first time ever I've heard about an officer copying something when someone forgot a copy. They usually say, "you need a copy of this,go make outside and come back". 

????

 

[Thomas J]

On 1/23/2020 at 5:53 PM, Phulublub said:

Reached over the desk, put my book in his copy machine and made the required copy.

Phulublub

 

I go next Monday.  What items did they require additional copies of? 

[Susco]

On 1/24/2020 at 12:50 AM, gk10002000 said:

I agree the amounts must be huge.  Anybody have any actual knowledge of what they do with all the stuff? 

I have a friend, he got rich dealing in old paper.

 

On the way to Rayong there is a company doing the same business.

[kingofthemountain]

1 hour ago, Thomas J said:

Phulublub

 

I go next Monday.  What items did they require additional copies of? 

I have done copies from the first page and the last page of the book bank, with the last up date

of the day as required

but the IO has done himself one more copy of the other page, i think they

want to have all the history of the operations since your last entry in the country?

Or since the last renew of retirment? i have not asked why. So better to do a copy

of each page of your bank book if you want to be sure.

And each copy has to be signed by yourself. 

(Not sure if you can sign before to go or if it's better to sign when the IO ask you to do it)

[Phulublub]

On 1/25/2020 at 12:48 PM, Thomas J said:

Phulublub

 

I go next Monday.  What items did they require additional copies of? 

No additional copies of thoseon the list I posted in OP...but they also wanted

 

Bank Bookfirst PAge (My fault for overlooking)

Previous METV in Passport from before my "O" was issued.

 

Ithin others have mentioned photos of condo, and/or map showing location - not asked for either of these. (Just as well as didn't have any!)

 

And a follow-up - when I went back to pick up (and do multi-entry), I wasNOT given a slip to come backin 90 days and show THB800K still in my account.   Happy days.  90 day reports, when needed, using the App so next visit this time next year, I hope.

 

Big BZ Jomtien ????

 

PH