Battling billionaires: Trump and candidate Bloomberg swap insults and attacks

[Chiphigh]

8 hours ago, Silurian said:

Winning!!!

 

America's local economy keeps shrinking

 

 

What a desperate post. Please feel free to give us a detailed policy from the democrats to build the economy and employment market. 

 

 

[candide]

4 minutes ago, Chiphigh said:

So you are the intellectual standard of where information is deemed to be acceptable? 

That is quite convenient for you 

 

So where is information acceptable, according to you? 

[yogi100]

21 hours ago, Berkshire said:

Classic bully tactic and quite childish.  One thing I've noticed is that Trump would never insult Putin about his height, even though Putin is even shorter than Bloomberg.  Wonder why that is? 

With Putin diplomacy is called for.

 

That is unnecessary for  domestic political opponents.

 

Trump hates MB and MB hates Trump. It's hardly advanced psychology.

[earlinclaifornia]

47 minutes ago, candide said:

So where is information acceptable, according to you? 

My bet is his news source is from Breitbart News

[Chiphigh]

2 hours ago, candide said:

So where is information acceptable, according to you? 

Does it have to be only media outlets dominated by liberal "journalists*" to satisfy your own opinions, or can anything actually backed up with factual references and names be accepted by you? 

[Silurian]

2 hours ago, Chiphigh said:

What a desperate post. Please feel free to give us a detailed policy from the democrats to build the economy and employment market. 

 

 

Typical head in the sand deflection response. As to be expected...

[Silurian]

Let's compare some stats:

 

Money received from father:
MB: Some monetary assistance for college (Mike worked his way to pay the balance)
DJT: At least $400 million (in addition to money paid for private school & college)

 

Business Acumen:
MB: Laid off at 39 years old, started his own company worth billions today
DJT: hotel and casino businesses have declared bankruptcy six times

 

Vehicle skills:
MB: Licensed as a private pilot, able to fly an AW109 helicopter
DJT: Able to drive golf cart (sometimes even onto the green which is against course rules)

 

Youth activities:
MB : Eagle scout, licensed amateur radio operator, proficient in Morse code, and built ham radios
DJT: Never made honor roll and obtained several draft deferments

 

Fun facts:
MB: during his mayoralty, Mike rode the New York City Subway on a daily basis
DJT: during his third marriage while his wife was pregnant, had an affair with a porn star
 

[stevenl]

2 hours ago, Chiphigh said:

Does it have to be only media outlets dominated by liberal "journalists*" to satisfy your own opinions, or can anything actually backed up with factual references and names be accepted by you? 

Facts, please.

[candide]

7 hours ago, Chiphigh said:

Does it have to be only media outlets dominated by liberal "journalists*" to satisfy your own opinions, or can anything actually backed up with factual references and names be accepted by you? 

Axios.com is quite reliable for facts, so is the BBC website. Some less known sources such as Justice Security are quite good too. Politico is not bad. Oh! The Economist is a top one!

 

For a variety of opinions: a mix of CNN, Fox News (not Hannity and F&F, lol), and Al Djazeera provide a good overview. 

A few European sources may be interesting to get a non Anglo-saxon view: DW, Le Monde, etc...

 

What are your usual sources?

[observer90210]

Money cannot buy brains...that is for both of them.

[Chiphigh]

12 minutes ago, candide said:

Axios.com is quite reliable for facts, so is the BBC website. Some less known sources such as Justice Security are quite good too. Politico is not bad. Oh! The Economist is a top one!

 

For a variety of opinions: a mix of CNN, Fox News (not Hannity and F&F, lol), and Al Djazeera provide a good overview. 

A few European sources may be interesting to get a non Anglo-saxon view: DW, Le Monde, etc...

 

What are your usual sources?

Bongino references everything to a source, so does John Solomon, all sources are referenced to a particular source. Also axios and Glen Greenwald. I look for a reference in everything so I can see what context is used. 

 

So many articles say "sources say" without any back up. 

 

The way headlines are put out now are too sensational without a valid reference. 

 

 

They all are guilty of this at one point, for different reasons. 

 

One constant remains, the majority of news sites are purposely telling a narrative against trump instead of reporting all aspects of what is actually going on.  Telling A story instead of THE story. 

[candide]

32 minutes ago, Chiphigh said:

Bongino references everything to a source, so does John Solomon, all sources are referenced to a particular source. Also axios and Glen Greenwald. I look for a reference in everything so I can see what context is used. 

 

So many articles say "sources say" without any back up. 

 

The way headlines are put out now are too sensational without a valid reference. 

 

 

They all are guilty of this at one point, for different reasons. 

 

One constant remains, the majority of news sites are purposely telling a narrative against trump instead of reporting all aspects of what is actually going on.  Telling A story instead of THE story. 

It's not only about citing sources, it's about not being biased by only selecting facts and sources that confirm the author's stance. I can demonstrate that the earth is flat or the existence of flying saucers by selecting only some sources.

 

John Solomon is biased. He cites sources but 'forgets' to cite facts that contradict his assertions. Compare, for example, his chronology of the Trump/Biden/Ukraine story with the one from Justice Security and you will find out that he conveniently omitted plenty of contradictory evidence. I also quickly checked some facts in this chronology proudly quoted in one of the TVF threads and there were some blatant errors (i.e. he states that Shokin was prosecutor in 2014 and he was only nominated in 2015). As I often do with Trumpers I checked if the source was really stating was he wrote and also found it sometimes didn't (ex the key N.Y. post one). 

 

I did not check the other sources but they are obviously not neutral.

Edited January 25, 2020 by candide

[Chiphigh]

21 minutes ago, candide said:

It's not only about citing sources, it's about not being biased by only selecting facts and sources that confirm the author's stance. I can demonstrate that the earth is flat or the existence of flying saucers by selecting only some sources.

 

John Solomon is biased. He cites sources but 'forgets' to cite facts that contradict his assertions. Compare, for example, his chronology of the Trump/Biden/Ukraine story with the one from Justice Security and you will find out that he conveniently omitted plenty of contradictory evidence. I also quickly checked some facts in this chronology proudly quoted in one of the TVF threads and there were some blatant errors (i.e. he states that Shokin was prosecutor in 2014 and he was only nominated in 2015). As I often do with Trumpers I checked if the source was really stating was he wrote and also found it sometimes didn't (ex the key N.Y. post one). 

 

I did not check the other sources but they are obviously not neutral.

There we are again with another "Trumper" insult. 

 

You just can't help yourself. 

 

One thing is blatantly clear. One side only allows one side to be critically examined and the blatantly corrupt on the left goes unreported and ignored. 

[Chiphigh]

22 hours ago, Redline said:

Trump is only a fraction of the man Bloomberg is-Donny must have gotten picked on wicked bad as a child, so he’s taking it out on people now-man child poster boy 

So you have deep insight into the minds and hearts of people you have never met or spoken with. That is an amazing ability. It seems like people on the left have this magical ability alot. You must be rich with this kind of talent. 

[candide]

3 minutes ago, Chiphigh said:

There we are again with another "Trumper" insult. 

 

You just can't help yourself. 

 

One thing is blatantly clear. One side only allows one side to be critically examined and the blatantly corrupt on the left goes unreported and ignored. 

Which insult? Trump himself talks about Trumpers and never Trumpers.

 

Come on, Trump and Republicans are full steam against the Bidens and the left in media and social networks, with full coverage.

 

Then comes the question that Trumpers never want to answer: despite such "blatant" evidence, why is it that the Republicans don't start any investigation into the Bidens and only want to make shows?

[Chiphigh]

3 minutes ago, candide said:

Which insult? Trump himself talks about Trumpers and never Trumpers.

 

Come on, Trump and Republicans are full steam against the Bidens and the left in media and social networks, with full coverage.

 

Then comes the question that Trumpers never want to answer: despite such "blatant" evidence, why is it that the Republicans don't start any investigation into the Bidens and only want to make shows?

I believe Lindsay Graham just announced that he will push for an independent investigation into the entire Biden issue. Isn't a remarkable thing that his entire family experienced great increases in business deals and wealth when he was vice president. That is of course, a mere coincidence. 

 

Because there aren't any "valid" news sources that fit into the narrative you have,it can't possibly be true. 

[candide]

34 minutes ago, Chiphigh said:

I believe Lindsay Graham just announced that he will push for an independent investigation into the entire Biden issue. Isn't a remarkable thing that his entire family experienced great increases in business deals and wealth when he was vice president. That is of course, a mere coincidence. 

 

Because there aren't any "valid" news sources that fit into the narrative you have,it can't possibly be true. 

As I said many times, no problem for me if they do. The timing starts to be good for the Republicans as they may not have finished the investigation before elections.

Well, at least Biden is not trying to hide his financial information (contrary to Trump).

https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/joe-biden-net-worth

[Chiphigh]

5 minutes ago, candide said:

As I said many times, no problem for me if they do. The timing starts to be good for the Republicans as they may not have finished the investigation before elections.

Well, at least Biden is not trying to hide his financial information (contrary to Trump).

https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/joe-biden-net-worth

Does the net worth include all the relatives who have gotten rich while he was vp? Or is selling influence not to be looked at? 

[candide]

4 minutes ago, Chiphigh said:

Does the net worth include all the relatives who have gotten rich while he was vp? Or is selling influence not to be looked at? 

That's all I know. Do you have such information? (Ok we know more or less for Hunter)

[Jingthing]

I didn't see Biden in the headline here.

It's about Bloomberg and 45, yeah?

[Scott]

I see a few posters can't be civil and can't stay on topic.   Continue and face a suspension.   Completely up to you.

 

[Mavideol]

On 1/25/2020 at 9:34 AM, Chiphigh said:

Does it have to be only media outlets dominated by liberal "journalists*" to satisfy your own opinions, or can anything actually backed up with factual references and names be accepted by you? 

you keep blowing out hot air and absolutely nothing to support any of your non sense answers, please, get real

[Redline]

19 hours ago, Chiphigh said:

So you have deep insight into the minds and hearts of people you have never met or spoken with. That is an amazing ability. It seems like people on the left have this magical ability alot. You must be rich with this kind of talent. 

No, but I have read (something Donny can’t seem to do) and watched most of the history of him and his family-greed, lies and self interest have always been the focus.  I was probably jumping to a conclusion about being picked on, but because of his unusually small hands, and the symptoms he displays, I came to a educated guess.  It’s all pretty textbook.  He has a weak and feeble mind that only attacks people to make himself look better-this a sign of very weak character and insecurity