webfact Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 EEC solar energy project gets the nod with goal of becoming zero-carbon area By THE NATION The EEC development subcommittee chaired by Finance Minister Uttama Savanayana has approved the clean energy (solar) project in the Eastern Economic Corridor, EEC Policy Office secretary-general Kanit Sangsubhan said on Thursday (January 23). “This project was proposed by Provincial Electricity Authority and aims to study, develop and invest in solar energy generation, distribution and storing in EEC areas,” he said. “It will also expand to other renewable energies in the future with the goal of making the EEC a low-carbon community and achieving the ratio between fossil fuel and clean energy usage of 70:30.” Kanit Kanit said that in the first phase, the EEC will seek co-investment with the private and agricultural sectors to establish solar farms in EEC areas with capacity not less than 500 megawatts. “We will also work with Thailand Greenhouse Gas Management Organisation to plan and design a carbon-credit system to allow the trading of greenhouse gas quota in the voluntary carbon market among entrepreneurs in EEC areas.” “We hope that this project will drive the EEC towards being a zero-carbon city, as well as promote the study and development of solar energy manufacturing and storage technology to be used in other communities nationwide,” added Kanit. Source: https://www.nationthailand.com/news/30380997 -- © Copyright The Nation Thailand 2020-01-24 Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking Thailand news and visa info 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nobodysfriend Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 Finally a step in the right direction . I use electricity provided by solar panels ( off grid ) for years ... never a problem or even an electricity bill ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Scot123 Posted January 24, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 24, 2020 Why do they always ignore the carbon footprint of manufacturing these solar panels, windmills etc? They never ever recupe that in their life time. The white elephant in the room is that nuclear energy has the lowest carbon footprint. What a hoax this all is, the new religion where facts do not matter and the truth is screamed into silence. Fact is the word needs CO2 and we are so far from the optimum level (green houses have to pump in CO2). If CO2 production ended tomorrow the WORLD would be dead in a couple of years. The horror of the truth. If you think I'm an idiot just spend 20 mins and listen to a real expert on the subject, a real scientist and ex Green peace founder and director: Patrick Moore (a Canadian). 2 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brain150 Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 As long as the energy balance of any solar panel is negative it cannot be called sustainable ! But it surely is good for business ... It's like calling an electric car environmentally friendly - it's such a joke and people fall for it. But it surely is good for business ... The agenda is on ... get rid of the past and change it for whatever makes no sense - on every level !!! You can read the agenda on the UN home page - nothing secret about it. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkfish Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 Looks like a lot of trees have been cut down for that green energy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamb00ler Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Scot123 said: Why do they always ignore the carbon footprint of manufacturing these solar panels, windmills etc? They never ever recupe that in their life time. The white elephant in the room is that nuclear energy has the lowest carbon footprint. What a hoax this all is, the new religion where facts do not matter and the truth is screamed into silence. Fact is the word needs CO2 and we are so far from the optimum level (green houses have to pump in CO2). If CO2 production ended tomorrow the WORLD would be dead in a couple of years. The horror of the truth. If you think I'm an idiot just spend 20 mins and listen to a real expert on the subject, a real scientist and ex Green peace founder and director: Patrick Moore (a Canadian). One of the highest densities of mis-information I've ever encountered. Yes the world needs SOME CO2 of course. But there was no shortage before the Industrial Revolution, was there? Nature when left alone produced a biosphere that was in balance. Humans are the only species capable of destroying that balance. We have done so in the pursuit of more leisure time and a higher(?) standard of living. Your nonsensical scenario of CO2 production ending .... LOL! Humans produce it...so production won't end until we're all dead. I prefer that you go first. Mr Moore's paycheck now comes from a pulp and paper company so it is hard to say that he is an unbiased commentator. Oh yeah.... and he was not a founder of Greenpeace. His first position was that of deck hand on their converted fishing boat the Phyllis Cormack. Edited January 24, 2020 by gamb00ler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamb00ler Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 (edited) I wonder if solar are farms are the best idea for Thailand. It seems to me that a very high percentage of relatively level land in Thailand is more suitable for agriculture. I think solar generation is more useful in urban areas. This would be more efficient because that is where the preponderance of electricity is used so there would be less loss due to transmission. Edited January 24, 2020 by gamb00ler 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VocalNeal Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 I will be impressed when the factory which produces solar panels is itself powered entirely by solar panels. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fforest1 Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 1 hour ago, Scot123 said: Why do they always ignore the carbon footprint of manufacturing these solar panels, windmills etc? They never ever recupe that in their life time. The white elephant in the room is that nuclear energy has the lowest carbon footprint. What a hoax this all is, the new religion where facts do not matter and the truth is screamed into silence. Fact is the word needs CO2 and we are so far from the optimum level (green houses have to pump in CO2). If CO2 production ended tomorrow the WORLD would be dead in a couple of years. The horror of the truth. If you think I'm an idiot just spend 20 mins and listen to a real expert on the subject, a real scientist and ex Green peace founder and director: Patrick Moore (a Canadian). This is correct....They should be thinking of ways to create more carbon not less..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fforest1 Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 34 minutes ago, gamb00ler said: One of the highest densities of mis-information I've ever encountered. Yes the world needs SOME CO2 of course. But there was no shortage before the Industrial Revolution, was there? Nature when left alone produced a biosphere that was in balance. Humans are the only species capable of destroying that balance. We have done so in the pursuit of more leisure time and a higher(?) standard of living. Your nonsensical scenario of CO2 production ending .... LOL! Humans produce it...so production won't end until we're all dead. I prefer that you go first. Mr Moore's paycheck now comes from a pulp and paper company so it is hard to say that he is an unbiased commentator. Oh yeah.... and he was not a founder of Greenpeace. His first position was that of deck hand on their converted fishing boat the Phyllis Cormack. Plants need more carbon to produce more oxygen and if humans have more oxygen humans are more healthy....Case Closed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Tracy Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 There's a lot of tosh being spouted here and perhaps some valid points. Everyone has an opinion, and rightly so. I have insufficient knowledge of the subject to form an informed opinion. And 'case closed' is so patronising it's unreal. Like someone saying 'fact'. Doesn't necessarily make it so. Please grow up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emptypockets Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 4 hours ago, fforest1 said: Plants need more carbon to produce more oxygen and if humans have more oxygen humans are more healthy....Case Closed Google plant respiration. They also expel CO2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srikcir Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 On 1/24/2020 at 4:24 PM, Scot123 said: Why do they always ignore the carbon footprint of manufacturing these solar panels, windmills etc? Or the destruction of forests. This project looks to be placed inside of a mature forest; thus, itself creating a large carbon footprint. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred white Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 On 1/24/2020 at 5:13 PM, monkfish said: Looks like a lot of trees have been cut down for that green energy. Yep there goes alot of green space why aren't they installed on the factory roof tops Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamb00ler Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 On 1/24/2020 at 2:55 AM, fforest1 said: Plants need more carbon to produce more oxygen and if humans have more oxygen humans are more healthy....Case Closed I believe you meant to say "carbon dioxide" instead of "carbon". Nevertheless, it's a tad more complicated than you portray. Your statement is akin to someone saying they can drive because they're able to start the car. People make the false assumption that because adding CO2 to a sealed greenhouse is beneficial, the same would be true for the entire earth. They are ignoring that the unintended consequences in a greenhouse operation are very minor and those for the planet's atmosphere are not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enki Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 On 1/24/2020 at 10:24 AM, Scot123 said: Why do they always ignore the carbon footprint of manufacturing these solar panels, windmills etc? They never ever recupe that in their life time. They do, in about 2 - 3 years. If you had a clue, you would know that. Money wise it is 5 - 8 years, and then: profit. Paid troll? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enki Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 (edited) On 1/24/2020 at 11:24 AM, gamb00ler said: I wonder if solar are farms are the best idea for Thailand. It seems to me that a very high percentage of relatively level land in Thailand is more suitable for agriculture. I think solar generation is more useful in urban areas. This would be more efficient because that is where the preponderance of electricity is used so there would be less loss due to transmission. So you think, for the country, as in state, it is better to grow plants and sell them to ... to whom? Better than having electricity? Better than making electricity environmentally friendly? Thailand has so much areable land, what do you care why/when/where they place a solar plant? Edited January 26, 2020 by Enki Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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