Marijuana possession case..

[Hiambruno]

14 hours ago, FarFlungFalang said:

Yeah my bad and I apologise I do get carried away.Although he may well go home with the dubious distinction of possibly being the last foreigner to be deported from Thailand for possession. 

I wouldn’t call it racism but it is the treatment compare to foreigner(tourists) between Thai’s is beyond common sense we being treated like really bad criminals even though we may did something small ( still my mistake not looking for sympathy) just seeing around and being shocked from the corrupted empire and feeling bad that a lot of people have to be thought processes like that. I want to thank you all Once more for you advices and help I’m grateful that people still trying to help even though I’m stupid and young. But in the end all have been young and stupid right ? Thank you forum always keep you update till the end of the case no matter what that is 

[FarFlungFalang]

23 minutes ago, Hiambruno said:

I want to thank you all Once more for you advices and help I’m grateful that people still trying to help even though I’m stupid and young. But in the end all have been young and stupid right ?

I would call it young and adventurous you are on an adventure keep your chin up and don't let them get you down you will have a wonderful story to tell when it's over and many have trodden the path you are on and much worse.Are you OK?You seem to be dealing with it quite well,I know it might be somewhat scary but you may well have a laugh when it's all over.Good Luck and stiff upper lip and all that crup.

[Hiambruno]

4 minutes ago, FarFlungFalang said:

I would call it young and adventurous you are on an adventure keep your chin up and don't let them get you down you will have a wonderful story to tell when it's over and many have trodden the path you are on and much worse.Are you OK?You seem to be dealing with it quite well,I know it might be somewhat scary but you may well have a laugh when it's all over.Good Luck and stiff upper lip and all that crup.

Well I’m not mentally great but I had a great lesson cause the people I was here they screw me over and left and didn’t even ask me if I have a place to stay or money to get thought but it is what it is, I’m just waiting for immigrations decision and and I don’t know still how long process will take but I have a girl giving me all the support and help she can 

[ChipButty]

In defense of alcohol I've done some pretty stupid things when sober 

[Hiambruno]

Just now, ChipButty said:

What your so called friends dumped you?

Yes they left after 3 days I got free from court to continue their holidays and I was broke homeless hopeless and mentally frustrated 

[BritManToo]

4 minutes ago, Hiambruno said:

Yes they left after 3 days I got free from court to continue their holidays and I was broke homeless hopeless and mentally frustrated 

Lesson to learn.

When buying drugs in a group, never be the person holding them.

[problemfarang]

Lesson learned 

Edited January 29, 2020 by problemfarang

[holy cow cm]

It's only weed and a little bit at that and you will have freedom. 

 

52 minutes ago, Hiambruno said:

I’m just waiting for immigrations decision and and I don’t know still how long process will take but I have a girl giving me all the support and help she can 

Maybe there is chance the immigration boys n girls will kick you loose and not send you to Bangkok. Don't know how they would transport you, but could have been worse. Yeah, I bet. let the girl give you all the support she can, just don't get her pregnant. Keep us informed as curious to hear what happens and if they actually send you and deport you and what kind of a ban or if blacklisted.

For the guys you met and took off, not their fault as they probably did not want any connection or even being pee tested getting in trouble.

Take care. 

[mtls2005]

2 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Lesson to learn.

When buying drugs in a group, never be the person holding them.

 

Meh.

 

Use (proven via a urine test, or witness) is stipulated in both of the relevant laws (narcotics & psycotropic). 

 

Relevant to Cannabis/THC...

 

Pyscotropics Act

Imprisonment of 1-5 years and a fine of 20,000-100,000 Baht for possession, use or consumption

 

Narcotics Act

Imprisonment not exceeding 5 years and or a fine not exceeding 100,000 Baht or both for possession
Imprisonment not exceeding 1 year and a fine of 100,000 – 1,000,000 for consumption

[Hiambruno]

1 minute ago, mtls2005 said:

 

Meh.

 

Use (proven via a urine test, or witness) is stipulated in both of the relevant laws (narcotics & psycotropic). 

 

Relevant to Cannabis/THC...

 

Pyscotropics Act

Imprisonment of 1-5 years and a fine of 20,000-100,000 Baht for possession, use or consumption

 

Narcotics Act

Imprisonment not exceeding 5 years and or a fine not exceeding 100,000 Baht or both for possession
Imprisonment not exceeding 1 year and a fine of 100,000 – 1,000,000 for consumption

You know what’s the only funny part ? Haven’t smoked in 2 years and I didn’t  even had the chance to try it !

[mtls2005]

35 minutes ago, Hiambruno said:

You know what’s the only funny part ? Haven’t smoked in 2 years and I didn’t  even had the chance to try it !

 

It probably wasn't even cannabis. And if it was then it probably had less than 3% THC. Then recycled back to the snitch to snare someone else.

 

 

[BritManToo]

2 hours ago, problemfarang said:

Lesson learned 

Who kept your bail money?

[Hiambruno]

3 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Who kept your bail money?

The lawyer office .. this is the charge for my case they said 

[BritManToo]

13 minutes ago, Hiambruno said:

The lawyer office .. this is the charge for my case they said 

Thought so, odd they didn't mention that charge before the case.

Looks like you've been scammed by everyone, bad luck bro.

[Stevemercer]

Yeah, for the plus 10,000 Baht 'fee' you have paid them, the lawyer should be on hand to assist you at Phuket immigration (e.g. to support your release so you can make your own way home).

[ChaiyaTH]

Guess the OP will need at least 30-40K baht readily available if wanting to make this fast and smooth.

[Hiambruno]

4 hours ago, ChaiyaTH said:

Guess the OP will need at least 30-40K baht readily available if wanting to make this fast and smooth.

That’s what they asked more actually 

[DrJack54]

4 minutes ago, Hiambruno said:

That’s what they asked more actually 

So you post at 10.30pm

What's next move. What happens next.

You mentioned (I think) you now skint given all the costs you have racked up.

What's the plan?

[Hiambruno]

3 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

So you post at 10.30pm

What's next move. What happens next.

You mentioned (I think) you now skint given all the costs you have racked up.

What's the plan?

The plan is to leave to Bangkok IDC and wait there that will take from 4 days to 2 weeks ..

Edited January 29, 2020 by Hiambruno

[DrJack54]

Just now, Hiambruno said:

The plan is to leave to Bangkok IDC and wait there that will take from 4 days to 2 weeks ..

Sounds horrible.

Without sounding negative, in the past other folk have been able to post pics of this and that of their situation. 

And you? 

Can you take pic transport from Pattaya to bkk etc

[metempsychotic]

On 1/28/2020 at 3:46 PM, holy cow cm said:

Sounds like they have a zero tolerance policy now for foreigners. Sorry to hear it. So did they give you a ban as well? 1 year or blacklisted? To me it sounds hypocritical as they just medically legalized it and your was for personal fun use. So get your stuff like airplane booked. did they give you your passport back? I know stupid question, but never know. It is not just you it is all foreigners in a sense. Cheer up and next time go to Vietnam.

one man being deported does not a policy make.

and he was pretty clear he had no passport, if he did, he could leave.

 

 

[metempsychotic]

19 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

Sounds horrible.

Without sounding negative, in the past other folk have been able to post pics of this and that of their situation. 

And you? 

Can you take pic transport from Pattaya to bkk etc

why would he do that?

 

he is in phuket.

 

[Senseo]

In case the police wants you to sign documents in Thai, contact your embassy. You always have the right for a translation of the documents that the police ask you to sign. If you are going in front of a judge, make sure you dress appropriately and not like the usual tourist. Wear neat, clean clothes to court.  Think “business casual.” Take off your hat, take off your sunglasses, turn off your cellphone. Contradictory to the advice of some to apologize in front of the judge, many of the wrongdoers who apologize in court are probably motivated by a desire to improve their outcome rather than by true contrition. And thus many judges appear largely impervious to wrongdoers apologies. Ask your lawyer how to proceed.

 

Judges may not be swayed by an apology, and any apology made to a judge must be approached gingerly. 

 

If you are going to speak in front of the judge:

Know how to address the judge in Thai. In the US you say "Your honor." 

Your lawyer will know if it's a good idea to apologize and whether you should show expressions of remorse.

If the answer is yes, ask whether you should apologize in Thai. 

 

Lastly, be prepared. 

 

 

[mtls2005]

12 hours ago, ChaiyaTH said:

Guess the OP will need at least 30-40K baht readily available if wanting to make this fast and smooth.

 

In other threads here, the IDC expediting fee has been claimed to be 60,000 baht.

 

 

[balo]

He should try to offer a sum of maybe around 20k , try that first and see if he can get his passport back. The passport is the most important thing to get back . 

 

[Hiambruno]

3 hours ago, balo said:

He should try to offer a sum of maybe around 20k , try that first and see if he can get his passport back. The passport is the most important thing to get back . 

 

Not possible everything is recorded now under the books and like someone previously said “everyone wants a piece of the pie now” they were waiting me to finish court process so they can ask for clean money (not split with the court) basically 

Edited January 30, 2020 by Hiambruno

[buick]

OP - as i mentioned in a previous note, a member of this forum, '007 RED', knows how things work at bangkok IDC.  if you've been told 4 days to two weeks before you'll be out of IDC, you want to get everything lined up such that you get real close to the 4 day mark rather than the two week mark.  i know that sounds obvious.  but one small 'mistake' or 'i didn't know that', will cost you another day or more in there.  send him/her (007 RED has been following this thread) a private message via this forum so you can get ready to jump through the required hoops and get out as speedy as possible.  you don't want to show up at IDC w/o any knowledge of how things work there.

Edited January 30, 2020 by buick

[Deerculler]

Goodluck mate.

[ChipButty]

Lawmakers in Thailand Remove Cannabis From Narcotics List

Thailand’s Public Health Ministry announced Tuesday that Cabinet has agreed to the removal of cannabis from the narcotic list. It was approved under ministerial regulation of the Public Health Ministry, Deputy Government Spokesperson Traisulee Traisaranakul, said.

The regulation also states that researches would conduct research on the effects of cannabis in medicines, cosmetics, and herbs in line with government’s policy. Above all to boost the country’s production competitiveness.

https://www.chiangraitimes.com/thailand-national-news/news-asia-thailand/lawmakers-in-thailand-remove-cannabis-from-narcotics-list/

[007 RED]

17 hours ago, Hiambruno said:

The plan is to leave to Bangkok IDC and wait there that will take from 4 days to 2 weeks ..

OP….. From your comment that, “the plan is to leave for Bangkok IDC and wait there that will take from 4 days to 2 weeks..”  I take it that Immigration has decided that you are going to be deported.

 

Firstly, you may well find that you will be in Phuket for some time.  Immigration will need to arrange for you to be transported from Phuket up to Bangkok.  This will involve arranging for a vehicle and officers to accompany you for the 12 hour road trip.  Don’t expect a luxury sedan to take you, it will more than likely be a wire caged pickup with you sitting in the flatbed.

 

Secondly, it is quite possible that they (Phuket Immigration) may well wait until they have several people that need to be transported to Bangkok, so this will also affect the time you will be in Phuket. 

 

That said, enjoy your time there in Phuket because where you’re going is not going to be so pleasant.

 

When you arrive at the IDC in Bangkok you will be ‘booked in” and all your personal possessions such as your phone, laptop, camera, money etc. will be taken away from you.  You will get these back when you are taken to the airport.  They will allow you to keep a limited quantity of clothing and toiletries.

 

If you have any medical issues, or need medication, make sure you tell them when you arrive at the IDC.

 

You will be allocated to a room within the centre and given a blanket and hard pillow.  The room normally holds 50 or more people at any one time.  There are no beds, you will sleep on the floor in very cramped conditions.  The room has overhead fans but no air conditioning so during the day it can be very hot and at night quite cold. There is a swat toilet at one end of the room.  The smell in the room can be overpowering to say the least.

 

You will be given 2 very basic meals a day and drinking water whilst you are being held in the centre.  If you have money when you arrive you can ask that some, or all, be credited to your account.  You can then use this to purchase better food and additional drinking water through the guards.

 

There are pay phones in IDC, and you will need to arrange to use one and pay with credit from your account.

 

Whatever you do, comply with instructions/orders given by the guards.

 

IDC will inform your Embassy that you are being detained there whilst arrangements are made for your deportation.  Don’t expect your Embassy to come running to your rescue, they won’t because they can not interfere with the ‘lawful process’.  Your Embassy will only make sure that if you need medication you are provided with it and they will also arrange for your relatives to be notified if you want them to.  Embassies generally will not provide funds to you.  They may, however, arrange for money sent from a relative to be credited to your account in IDC if required.  Some Embassies make a charge for this service. 

 

You can have visitors whilst you are in IDC.  However, Immigration will only allow your close relative, legal representative or Embassy Officer to visit you in IDC.  Your visitor will need to register with IDC prior to their arrival and if allowed in you and your visitor will be separated by dual fences about 1 meter apart in an open yard.  Your visitor can bring food, water, clothing for you.  They can also deposit money into your credit account.

 

Whilst you are in IDC, Immigration will carry out a risk assessment on you.  This will be based upon your conduct whilst you are in the IDC.  Provided that you have behave yourself they will allow you to fly back home unaccompanied.  If you are involved in any problems or disobey orders given to you whilst you’re in IDC they (Immigration) may decide that you need to be escorted during your return flight(s) and you will have to pay for the escort’s return flights and accommodation as well as your own flight costs.

 

IDC will arrange for a travel agent to book your flight out of the Kingdom.  This will be to your home country and you will have to pay the cost of the flight. 

 

Immigration normally require that your flight is a direct flight.  If there are no direct flights to your home country then the travel agent will need to seek consent from both Immigration and the airlines involved for you to travel before a booking can be made and this can sometime take a few days. 

 

You need to be aware that a single flight ticket often costs as much, if not more, than a return flight ticket.  Also, flights purchased at relatively short notice are usually very expensive.  You will pay for your flight with money in your IDC credit account, or with your credit card if you have one. 

 

If you already have a return ticket (to your home country), this can be used as part payment toward your new ticket, regardless if it is, or is not, with the same airline.  This may reduce the cost of the new ticket but not by a lot as there is normally a heavy penalty to pay when changing flights and dates etc.

 

Don’t expect that your outbound flight will be the day after you pay for the flight.  It is more than likely to be a week or more after payment has been made.  Once again Immigration will need time to arrange transport and escorts to take you from IDC to the airport.  Also, they (Immigration) try to arrange to transport for several people to the airport at one time.  You may well be charged for the transport and escort costs.

 

Prior to being taken to the airport you will be given back your possessions which were removed when you were booked into IDC, and any money still in your credit account.

 

When you are taken to the airport you will be taken to the airport detention facility where you will wait for your flight.  This facility will seem like a 5 star hotel compared to IDC.  An airline representative will come to the detention facility to ‘check you in’. 

 

Just prior to normal passenger boarding you will be taken to the gate by security staff and handed over to the airline staff.  The airline staff will keep your passport until you disembark at your home destination.

 

Please be aware that your passport will have a nice red stamp indicating that you have been deported from Thailand and the reason why (this will be in Thai).  It is also possible that the deportation stamp will be accompanied by a second stamp stating that you have been banned from entering the Kingdom for whatever period has been set by Immigration.

 

You need to also be aware that Thai Immigration will notify their counterparts in your home country that you have been deported, the reason why and your flight details, so it is possible that you may have a welcoming committee waiting for you when you arrive back home.

 

Best of luck.