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On 1/25/2020 at 5:02 PM, Crash999 said:

It used to be that Benz weren't very good to drive but that isn't true anymore.

I’d like to have an S Class with a 7 Series interior. Mercedes have always been bad on interior styling but have done a lot better in the last few years. 

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18 hours ago, SoSoCNX said:

E200 Coupe vs 218i M Sport

To me 218i is fun to drive but e200 is more comfortable. the price is about the same 

I would go for the E200, I like the coupe styling. Locally built are poor quality compared to original ones from Germany, yet here they cost more. You have to some kind of masochist to pay Thai prices for inferior products.

 

Reliability wise, the BMW was the worst car I ever owned. It also drank fuel. I am curious to hear what the newer ones are like?

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7 hours ago, Fairynuff said:

I’d like to have an S Class with a 7 Series interior. Mercedes have always been bad on interior styling but have done a lot better in the last few years. 

Funny, I am the opposite. I'd like a Benz interior which handles and drives like a BMW 🙂

 

+1 on the guy who said Benz for comfort/luxury/face vs BMW for driver experience/handling/sportiness/fun

 

I drive a Series 5 and have driven other's E class extensively (both top model 1 generation back from current). I much prefer the BMW. My gf was a big Benz fan (had a few in her family) and then changed her mind once we got the BMW, even prefers it for comfort.

 

Do a test drive and decide for yourself.

 

 

 

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13 hours ago, Fairynuff said:
20 hours ago, Just Weird said:

Locally built cars, as these likely are, do not get taxed at 300% so you won't be handing over anything more than any other Thai-made car to the government.

Not true, whilst they aren’t taxed the full 300% they are still considerably more expensive tho I don’t know the exact %age.

"whilst they aren’t taxed the full 300%..."

So true, then! 

 

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1 hour ago, Just Weird said:

"whilst they aren’t taxed the full 300%..."

So true, then! 

 

Split hairs if it makes you happy 

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On 1/26/2020 at 10:48 PM, Fairynuff said:

I’d like to have an S Class with a 7 Series interior. Mercedes have always been bad on interior styling but have done a lot better in the last few years. 

I’d just like an S Class.....

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If you want reliability, keep the Honda!! I've had two BMW diesels recently, both had lots of problems, including a snapped Timing chain which is very common on BMW diesels!! I couldn't make my mind up to go for another Lexus or an Infiniti now the BMW has been sold, I've gone for the Infinity Hybrid and am very happy, far superior to any BMW I've driven and I've driven 3, 5 and 7 Series!!

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8 hours ago, Tigger01 said:

If you want reliability, keep the Honda!! I've had two BMW diesels recently, both had lots of problems, including a snapped Timing chain which is very common on BMW diesels!! I couldn't make my mind up to go for another Lexus or an Infiniti now the BMW has been sold, I've gone for the Infinity Hybrid and am very happy, far superior to any BMW I've driven and I've driven 3, 5 and 7 Series!!

Which models / engines? I am curious as I have a F10 525D with N57, the 3 litre 6cyl single turbo. It was later replaced with a smaller engine with twin turbos.

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It depends where you live. The BMW garage in Chiang Mai has a bad reputation.

 

On 1/25/2020 at 10:30 AM, kuzie57 said:

If you are a driver the BMW is the choise, if you want comfort and apointments the Merc wins that one.

 

Not really anymore. The Mercedes models of the last years are also fun to drive, especially since you can select the drive modes (sport, comfort, etc.).

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I had no problems with BMW in Chiang Mai over the last 5 years and really enjoyed driving my 320d.  That said, my wife and I decided our driving needs are better suited to an SUV and after test-driving several ended up buying a CX-8.  We have taken it up in the mountains a few times already, to places the BMW couldn't go, and it is really a comfortable ride with more electronic gizmos than I know what to do with.😇

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Anyone thinking of buying any of these cars - as well as Audi, Volvo, ... long list.

Better plan on selling it before the warranty expires.

Many tales of Merc, BMW, et al dealers in Germany and elsewhere unable to diagnose problems with these cars. Let alone fix them.

Independent repair shops regularly receive cars from the dealers where they are unable to fix them, and need outside expertise.

And if the dealership in Germany, the country where they are built, can not - Abandon Hope all Ye who Live Here

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12 hours ago, rambling said:

Which models / engines? I am curious as I have a F10 525D with N57, the 3 litre 6cyl single turbo. It was later replaced with a smaller engine with twin turbos.

Its the 2 litre diesels, i think the bigger engines are ok, the 2 litre is <deleted>!! I had the F10, drives nice when running but big repair bills, rear suspension collapsed first, another common problem when i googled it, about £800to fix, camchaun £3000,it was a money it, not a patch on Jap rivals, ive had 3 lexus and no problem, i think i had a rear bulb blow on one, thats it!! 

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I've had BMW the last 20 years in the UK. Very expensive to maintain outside of warranty, lots to go wrong and they do go wrong, I wouldn't own one again unless I had very very deep pockets. I always had Japanese prior to this, and that is what I'll go back to. Is also what we have in Thailand (Toyota)

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On 1/28/2020 at 8:00 PM, Tigger01 said:

Its the 2 litre diesels, i think the bigger engines are ok, the 2 litre is <deleted>!! I had the F10, drives nice when running but big repair bills, rear suspension collapsed first, another common problem when i googled it, about £800to fix, camchaun £3000,it was a money it, not a patch on Jap rivals, ive had 3 lexus and no problem, i think i had a rear bulb blow on one, thats it!! 

My F10  (520d) still goes like new after close to 7 Years and 65 K Km. Only problem I have had was the tank filler lid did not close and that was when it was 6 month old.

Before that one I had a 320d which engine was water locked , but that is another story and not the cars fault as such.

 

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BMW is sporty and in my view more exciting to drive, but I'd prefer the Mercedes as it is a front wheel drive and is more stable. I drove a BMW with low tread at the rear and aquaplaned on a rain sodden motorway ... not a great experience, but a lesson learned. 

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