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Recent experience at chaengwattana Immigration. TM30 info

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My wife and I extended our SETV visas at CW last week quickly and easily. We are staying in a condo in BKK and our Landlord made an entry in the TM30 online system for us when we arrived. We traveled to Pattaya for several days and stayed in a hotel there during the course of our visa. I assume the owners of the hotel made TM30 entries for us. As a test I did not have our landlord update the TM30 database with this provincial travel information.

 

I brought a printout of the original TM30 from our landlord which I included in our document bundle at CW. These printouts were returned to us by the staff 'No need' I was told. There was no mention of needing to re-update the TM30 database for our trip to Pattaya. This leads me to believe at most TM30 is only necessary for exiting and entering the country for CW visa extension purpsoes. It may not be necessary for travel within the country, but that is ONLY my personal experience.

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7 minutes ago, SteveK said:

Depends on the office. Ubon office told me it absolutely is needed for any stay anywhere other than my registered address.

Saraburi Imm. Office told me the same.

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I seem to recall CW were being stricter a while back and issuing TM30 related fines to all and sundry.  Also they were checking TM30 was correct and up to date before they would process other needs. It seems they have backed off or changed stance. Much for the better. Still never done one for myself (in my own property) at Jomtien. 

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1 hour ago, JohnOFphon said:

I went to Cambodia and back a couple of months ago. I did not update my TM30.

Last week I went to get a certificate of residence at CW. Issued at the same desk as the TM30.

The IO there questioned why I did not update and I just played like I didn't know. If that made a difference or not..I don't know, she asked if I was I was still at the same condo...yes....,,,and she issued me the certificate and did not tell me to go update my TM30, 

I wouldn't advise anyone to stop updating ... I got away with it once...never know what the next IO will say, or do.

 

what sort of visa and extension are you on?

are you required to do 90-day reports?

have you done a 90-day report since your return from cambodia?

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17 hours ago, ChouDoufu said:

what sort of visa and extension are you on?

are you required to do 90-day reports?

have you done a 90-day report since your return from cambodia?

Non O A and I have traveled out and in 3 times since my original TM30 11 months ago. 90 days starts new upon arrival...so no 90 day report until last week, when I did one online....no problem.... Of course I have to fill out the arrival card...so does that count as a report???

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26 minutes ago, JohnOFphon said:

Of course I have to fill out the arrival card...so does that count as a report???

No it does not. The TM30 is a report of your arrival at a residence.

Whether you need to do another one depends upon the immigration office you report to.

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recent non O retirement 800K extension at CW, the IO didn't ask to see my TM30 receipt, i hadn't done a 90 day report since my last return to the country.

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Kanchanaburi only require a TM30 if you leave the country and return,cheers

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1 hour ago, JohnOFphon said:

Non O A and I have traveled out and in 3 times since my original TM30 11 months ago. 90 days starts new upon arrival...so no 90 day report until last week, when I did one online....no problem.... Of course I have to fill out the arrival card...so does that count as a report???

thank you.

 

i'll be returning for the summer and will need to renew my driver licenses that expire next month.  last 90-day was 2 years ago.  other threads indicate cannot get a res cert unless 90-day done with latest tm-6.  outcome must depend on the fengshui of the officer on duty.

 

 

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CW made it very clear to me that travel inside Thailand not needed.

Only International travel 

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CW Immigration told me in October that we do not have to do another TM30 if we travel anywhere in Thailand and stay the night. We only need to do the TM30 if we leave and reenter Thailand. We should keep a copy of the TM30 in our passports, the same as required for the 90 day report. I reported this change in Thai Visa last October.

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On 1/25/2020 at 12:47 PM, JohnOFphon said:

I went to Cambodia and back a couple of months ago. I did not update my TM30.

Last week I went to get a certificate of residence at CW. Issued at the same desk as the TM30.

The IO there questioned why I did not update and I just played like I didn't know. If that made a difference or not..I don't know, she asked if I was I was still at the same condo...yes....,,,and she issued me the certificate and did not tell me to go update my TM30, 

I wouldn't advise anyone to stop updating ... I got away with it once...never know what the next IO will say, or do.

 

The rule of thumb since early last year at several immigration offices is, when travelling in Thailand,and coming back to the last official reported address (like a condo/house), then a new TM30 report is not needed. Coming back from abroad is another story,then a TM30 report is normally needed.

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It is also my experience, I really believe that the vast majority of Thai immigration offices only want a report if you leave the country, probably because they know it was unfair in the first place and did not want to lose face.

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