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18 minutes ago, ChasingTheSun said:

Curious to know if you can name anywhere that has gotten better with greater reasons to visit now?

Post from jaiyen . "....Japan, China, Malaysia, Vietnam and more. Even going to Europe is only about $500 more than Thailand and much better places to visit in many countries..."  speaks for many of us in the community.  There are way better options, take your rose colored glasses off.

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12 hours ago, London Lowf said:

Or read the travel forums before you go?

 

Yes, Surin is trashed but 90 % of tourists are mugs and they will continue to go there.

If people wants a nice beach,why visit Surin in the first place?

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4 hours ago, ChasingTheSun said:

Curious to know if you can name anywhere that has gotten better with greater reasons to visit now?

 

The poster didn't say that he knew of anywhere that had become, in your argot: "gotten", better. 

 

He said he knew of places that are better.

 

I presume he means places that are not as far down the unregulated, ugly, overcrowded, environment/community destroying, ultra avaricious path of mass tourism as Thailand is.

 

I can think of at least one place, but I'm not going to tell you, or any of the other "mice in their million hordes", about it.

 

"see the mice in their million hordes, from Ibiza to the Norfolk Broads"

                                         Life on Mars, David Bowie.

 

 

 

 

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22 hours ago, Agusts said:

The Surin tranquil beach is gone, a lot worse than last year, I  don't like a lot of regulations, but Thai greed just can't leave anything alone, and where are the authorities to stop all this...!!?

Isn't it just brought back to the state it was before the military took over power for a number of years...🤔

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5 hours ago, jaiyen said:

More nails in the Thai tourism coffin !  Not much room for any more nails.  I have finished with Thailand now.  From Australia there are plenty of better options e.g. Japan, China, Malaysia, Vietnam and more. Even going to Europe is only about $500 more than Thailand and much better places to visit in many countries.

Skegness is always worth a visit

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6 hours ago, mike787 said:

Post from jaiyen . "....Japan, China, Malaysia, Vietnam and more. Even going to Europe is only about $500 more than Thailand and much better places to visit in many countries..."  speaks for many of us in the community.  There are way better options, take your rose colored glasses off.

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13 hours ago, mike787 said:

Post from jaiyen . "....Japan, China, Malaysia, Vietnam and more. Even going to Europe is only about $500 more than Thailand and much better places to visit in many countries..."  speaks for many of us in the community.  There are way better options, take your rose colored glasses off.

How are those places and countries “much better” to visit?

 

how many do you speak for in “the community “?

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10 hours ago, Enoon said:

 

The poster didn't say that he knew of anywhere that had become, in your argot: "gotten", better. 

 

He said he knew of places that are better.

 

I presume he means places that are not as far down the unregulated, ugly, overcrowded, environment/community destroying, ultra avaricious path of mass tourism as Thailand is.

 

I can think of at least one place, but I'm not going to tell you, or any of the other "mice in their million hordes", about it.

 

"see the mice in their million hordes, from Ibiza to the Norfolk Broads"

                                         Life on Mars, David Bowie.

 

 

 

 

This is a copy of what he said...“YeP, just yet another nail in the coffin for Thailand, no longer the ELysium it was.  Those wood stock easy days are gone forever.  I used to go to Surin because of the beauty, now I do not bother because of the same reasons.   There are fewer places in Thailand to go, and even fewer reasons to come in the first place. “


He clearly said that Thailand has gotten worse, in his opinion. Thats why i am curious to know what places he feels have never gotten worse and are actually getting better, as thailand has gotten worse in his opinion? 

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I am glad I looked it up on google maps. I was just going to drive all the way up to Issan for a spot of sunbathing on these new sunloungers.

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38 minutes ago, ChasingTheSun said:

I used to go to Surin because of the beauty, now I do not bother because of the same reasons.

This is the Phuket forum you know lol

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37 minutes ago, ChasingTheSun said:

Buh bye.

 

If you wish to speak with me or quote me, could you please use English that I can understand.

 

Next, I have been coming and going to Thailand over 30 years. I have lived here for around 25 years now. I have been in business and also lived here on both business visas and now retirement extensions for a considerable time. I have lived in coastal areas, traveled extensively within the country, and now live in Isaarn.

 

Thailand has changed beyond recognition and I would now refer to the late 80s and the 90s as the good old days. It is well known among many people the place has deteriorated in terms of friendliness, cleanliness, value for money and overall enjoyment. 

 

I and many others have lived through military coups, Tsunamis, blood on the streets of Bangkok, airport shutdowns, increased xenophobia displayed towards us, a tightening of rules and regulations of which many are duplicated and others serve no purpose except to make us feel unwanted.

 

The beaches have become terrible, filthy and polluted, the massive income from tourism has not been reinvested but diverted elsewhere. Prices have rocketed and plenty of it has nothing to do with inflation.

 

Meanwhile, countries such as Cambodia, Vietnam, Myanmar, Bhutan, Malaysia are now providing alternative and better choices for long staying tourists and expats. Whilst offering and opening up their countries we are witnessing easy visa processes and relaxation of rules governing purchase of properties and more access to stay and work in some Asian countries except of course, Thailand.

 

Thailand feels it is ' better ' than its neighbors, doesn't need Western tourists as much as it used to and is focusing on the Asian market, yet dislikes other countries in the region reaching out to those very same markets.

 

Two of my close friends are in Phu Quoc as I speak and on my recommendation. They were big fans of Phuket and this couple do not skimp on good hotels and pampering wherever they go. They said their last trip to Phuket they felt cheated and unwanted, even by vendors they have met from previous years and people they thought were at least, holiday friends.

 

I have seen their posts and photos on Facebook, they also contacted me on messenger saying thank you and stating Vietnam is wonderful, they are having a great time, and it now is their first choice for future holidays. Sure, this may change as Vietnam gets busier and opens up, but you are just in denial regards Thailand.

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1 hour ago, Scouse123 said:

 

If you wish to speak with me or quote me, could you please use English that I can understand.

 

Next, I have been coming and going to Thailand over 30 years. I have lived here for around 25 years now. I have been in business and also lived here on both business visas and now retirement extensions for a considerable time. I have lived in coastal areas, traveled extensively within the country, and now live in Isaarn.

 

Thailand has changed beyond recognition and I would now refer to the late 80s and the 90s as the good old days. It is well known among many people the place has deteriorated in terms of friendliness, cleanliness, value for money and overall enjoyment. 


I and many others have lived through military coups, Tsunamis, blood on the streets of Bangkok, airport shutdowns, increased xenophobia displayed towards us, a tightening of rules and regulations of which many are duplicated and others serve no purpose except to make us feel unwanted.

 

The beaches have become terrible, filthy and polluted, the massive income from tourism has not been reinvested but diverted elsewhere. Prices have rocketed and plenty of it has nothing to do with inflation.

 

Meanwhile, countries such as Cambodia, Vietnam, Myanmar, Bhutan, Malaysia are now providing alternative and better choices for long staying tourists and expats. Whilst offering and opening up their countries we are witnessing easy visa processes and relaxation of rules governing purchase of properties and more access to stay and work in some Asian countries except of course, Thailand.

 

Thailand feels it is ' better ' than its neighbors, doesn't need Western tourists as much as it used to and is focusing on the Asian market, yet dislikes other countries in the region reaching out to those very same markets.

 

Two of my close friends are in Phu Quoc as I speak and on my recommendation. They were big fans of Phuket and this couple do not skimp on good hotels and pampering wherever they go. They said their last trip to Phuket they felt cheated and unwanted, even by vendors they have met from previous years and people they thought were at least, holiday friends.

 

I have seen their posts and photos on Facebook, they also contacted me on messenger saying thank you and stating Vietnam is wonderful, they are having a great time, and it now is their first choice for future holidays. Sure, this may change as Vietnam gets busier and opens up, but you are just in denial regards Thailand.

“Thailand has changed beyond recognition and I would now refer to the late 80s and the 90s as the good old days. It is well known among many people the place has deteriorated in terms of friendliness, cleanliness, value for moneuy and overall enjoyment.“
....The same could be said of almost anywhere on the planet.
 

Tell us about a place that you think is now better than how it was during the 80s or 90s?

 

No place is perfect. If running away to Issaan makes you feel you are somehow living better, then good luck and buh bye. 

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3 hours ago, ChasingTheSun said:

How are those places and countries “much better” to visit?

 

how many do you speak for in “the community “?

Pattaya beach is the best in thailand.  Vietnam is even better.

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6 hours ago, ChasingTheSun said:

Tell us about a place that you think is now better than how it was during the 80s or 90s?

Singapore. It sucks in the 90s.

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