Prawit orders officials to act against those using fire to clear their fields

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Prawit orders officials to act against those using fire to clear their fields

By The Nation

 

 

Deputy Prime Minister Prawit Wongsuwan has asked the Ministry of Interior to order local administration officials to control and stop the burning of field crops in the open.

 

The deputy premier’s orders came after finding fires in five provinces in the northern region and also in the vicinity of Bangkok, seen as the main cause of dust and pollution that pose a threat to public health.

 

Defence Ministry spokesman Kongcheep Tantravanich said on Tuesday (January 28) that Prawit had reiterated the role of the local government in being vigilant and implementing control measures while also providing knowledge and asking people to stop burning in the open.

 

If wrongdoers continue to violate the restrictions, law enforcement must act decisively to set an example, Prawit said.

 

The forest fire and haze control centre in each province, especially in the North, has asked for cooperation in monitoring fire activities while aerial surveillance and ground operations were sought from the Army to support and control the situation and solve the haze problem.

 

Source: https://www.nationthailand.com/news/30381169

 

-- © Copyright The Nation Thailand 2020-01-28

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[spiekerjozef]

He wants a new watch

[khwaibah]

Yesterday evening. About 4km from Surin Immigration.

 

[Assurancetourix]

it's just pissing in the wind; ( an additional announcement effect; )

 

In 14 years , I have never saw a policeman in my village 

[canuckamuck]

There is no ban on fires currently. Will they give out fines anyway?

[nikmar]

I worked with a guy, long time ago, when I was an engineer. He, to put mildly, didnt know much about the job we had to do. Attending a meeting at a pharmaceutical company with him once, it became apparent that he was just saying things that made him sound like he knew his onions and it wasn’t really working out too well for him.

Prawit reminds me of that guy. Open mouth, spew any old <deleted> that sounds knowledgeable, carry on regardless.

The difference being, of course, that the guy I worked with didn’t last long once it was obvious that he was just a chancer.

[colinneil]

Ole Fatty can order all he wants, but as usual nobody will take any notice.

[bluesofa]

2 minutes ago, colinneil said:

Ole Fatty can order all he wants, but as usual nobody will take any notice.

Oh I dunno, if he fell flat on top of one of those fires I've no doubt it would douse it PDQ.

[unamazedloso]

It is illegal so ordering officials to do something is the best news so far. I so hope its real.

[bluesofa]

2 hours ago, spiekerjozef said:

He wants a new watch

Must want a fire watch.

[Creasy]

Flying from Khon Kaen to Suvi recently you could see giant plumes of smoke everywhere

[YetAnother]

3 hours ago, webfact said:

Prawit had reiterated the role of the local government in being vigilant and implementing control measures while also providing knowledge and asking people to stop burning in the open.

fail and fail and fail; this guy embodies the state of thai leadership

[farmerjo]

Has he forgotten his people.

Abstract

Slash-and-burn agroecosystems are important to rural poor and indigenous peoples in the developing world. Ecologically sound slash-and-burn agriculture is sustainable because it does not depend upon outside inputs based on fossil energy for fertilizers, pesticides and irrigation.

[bwpage3]

3 hours ago, unamazedloso said:

It is illegal so ordering officials to do something is the best news so far. I so hope its real.

Keep dreaming.

 

Fields have been burning long since you have been alive

[Youlike]

3 hours ago, Assurancetourix said:

it's just pissing in the wind; ( an additional announcement effect; )

 

In 14 years , I have never saw a policeman in my village 

I see them every day but never seen one writing a fine..

[BobinBKK]

3 hours ago, bwpage3 said:

Keep dreaming.

 

Fields have been burning long since you have been alive

They are PDQ to stick it to foreigners though!

[DrTuner]

Quote

The deputy premier’s orders came after finding fires in five provinces in the northern region and also in the vicinity of Bangkok, seen as the main cause of dust and pollution that pose a threat to public health.

Didn't he get the memo? Diesels. D-I-E-S-E-L-S. It's been the gospel in TVF for months, so it must be true.

[DrTuner]

7 hours ago, Assurancetourix said:

In 14 years , I have never saw a policeman in my village 

Maybe you just haven't recognized him. It's the one that has the golden helmet hanging from the scooter handle while he goes to buy the daily M-150 bottle filled with laukhao.

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

8 hours ago, webfact said:

Prawit orders officials to act against those using fire to clear their fields

 

So I guess that means the police are going to continue ACTING like they're doing their job regarding open burning enforcement when in fact they're clearly NOT!

[tomazbodner]

8 hours ago, spiekerjozef said:

He wants a new watch

I'll buy him one if he can stop all farmers burning their fields for a year.

[neeray]

8 hours ago, colinneil said:

Ole Fatty can order all he wants, but as usual nobody will take any notice.

No, the problem is he "asked", not "ordered" (Prawit Wongsuwan has asked).

An "order" is when he's backed up by big guns.

In the picture, he looks like he has surpassed the best-before-date. I think it's time to retire him to one of those posts.

[heybruce]

6 hours ago, farmerjo said:

Has he forgotten his people.

Abstract

Slash-and-burn agroecosystems are important to rural poor and indigenous peoples in the developing world. Ecologically sound slash-and-burn agriculture is sustainable because it does not depend upon outside inputs based on fossil energy for fertilizers, pesticides and irrigation.

How many slash-and-burn agroecosystems grow sugarcane?  How many sugarcane fields don't use fertilizers, pesticides, and fossil fuels?

[judokrab]

11 hours ago, canuckamuck said:

There is no ban on fires currently. Will they give out fines anyway?

Firstly, open fires are banned all year round without a permit ... so, yes, they can be fined.

Secondly, Chiang Mai province (for example) started their fire ban on Jan 12. Some people there have been arrested/jailed/fined. For example, one man has been sentenced to one month in prison and fined 3,000 baht for starting a garbage fire.
 

Edited January 28, 2020 by judokrab

[bwpage3]

23 minutes ago, judokrab said:

Firstly, open fires are banned all year round without a permit ... so, yes, they can be fined.

Secondly, Chiang Mai province (for example) started their fire ban on Jan 12. Some people there have been arrested/jailed/fined. For example, one man has been sentenced to one month in prison and fined 3,000 baht for starting a garbage fire.
 

Wow, one man fined and jailed out of how many?

 

Did that one man make the news?

 

Still burning away unencumbered in Isaan

[canuckamuck]

4 hours ago, judokrab said:

Firstly, open fires are banned all year round without a permit ... so, yes, they can be fined.

Secondly, Chiang Mai province (for example) started their fire ban on Jan 12. Some people there have been arrested/jailed/fined. For example, one man has been sentenced to one month in prison and fined 3,000 baht for starting a garbage fire.
 

Are you certain of that? Usually the fire bans kick around mid February. If true it will be a problem for the villagers in our area. The government is coming out to measure land boundaries and the land that is not cleared can potentially be taken away. Because the government will say they are not farming it and someone else should have it.

We have a piece that we haven't used in a while, and we are cutting t down currently, but of course it will need to be burned if it is to be farmed. It is mountainside. And the same with our neighbors who are cutting down their uncleared land.

[jaiyen]

There's the answer in the article.  They are going to ask people to stop burning in the    open !  Maybe they could do it indoors ?

[sammieuk1]

Smells like the generals pants are on fire again ????

[farmerjo]

7 hours ago, heybruce said:

How many slash-and-burn agroecosystems grow sugarcane?  How many sugarcane fields don't use fertilizers, pesticides, and fossil fuels?

I would still consider a farmer as poor who doesn't have the ability to produce off their land without the use of contractors.

Note,50% or more of sugar cane land that the cane is Not burnt when cut will still be burnt afterwards.

Even though burnt cane gets a deduction at the factory,a clean cut load will also have deductions if the stalks are not stripped clean enough.

How many people come to chose to live in Thailand knowing it is 10-20 years behind western society in agriculture.

In how many years would it be expected it to catch up?

The announcement of more factories has most people up in arms.

They would be a great start to see less burning as logistics wise the  leftovers can be baled(value added) and used in power creation at the sites.

 

Edited January 29, 2020 by farmerjo

[neeray]

5 hours ago, bwpage3 said:

Wow, one man fined and jailed out of how many?

 

Did that one man make the news?

 

Still burning away unencumbered in Isaan

Don't be so nasty. One is a lot better than none.

The ban has to start somewhere. One is a good start (and I imagine there has been more).

[neeray]

1 hour ago, sammieuk1 said:

Smells like the generals pants are on fire again ????

You must be kidding. Surely it can't smell that bad !