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1 hour ago, hydraides said:

Their excuse was "Because you had insurance prices are lower

Well that's certainly a new twist on an old ploy!!!!

 

Twice I have caught out Bangkok Phuket hospital on their overcharging on insurance or farang scam, once when my ex girlfriend was originally quoted around 80 to 100,000 baht for an operation on her brothers throat, but when I went in a second time with her to get things ready for the operation, I was quoted 160,000 baht, so I told them to stick it and went elsewhere.

 

The second time was when I went for a colonoscopy and saw Dr Art himself with regards to this and he quoted me a price of 12,000 baht, so I booked an appointment and went in about 10 days later.

 

After the procedure I went to the desk to get the bill and the nurse asked me if I had insurance, so I said I had, but I wanted to pay cash for this. Anyway she must not of heard me because I was soon after presented with a bill for 18,000 baht, which I queried and then stated that I didn't have insurance (saved me some hassle trying to explain), so there was a quick printing out of various invoices and throwing a couple in the bin, until finally I was presented with a bill for just over 12,000 baht. 

 

Bumping up the medical and procedure costs for the insurance companies is pretty well a given here, and I am quite surprised that the insurance companies allow this to happen, because they rarely seem to query any bills.

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I would not point out cheats or dishonesty should it be in health, politics, business policies, society in general ...  no matter where....

 

...what would rather be worth would be to point out, is where there are still honest people left, as that is far more a rare species...

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25 minutes ago, xylophone said:

I was merely pointing out that the charges at this particular hospital, or should I say at two large private hospitals here are very likely to be inflated if you are a farang or paying by insurance.

 

Trying to warn folk about being ripped off is also surely a worthwhile cause.

 

And I do believe I did spot an honest person here a few years back..............😉.

No misunderstandings please, your post was pertinent and thank you for sharing....absolutely no scarcasm. Have a nice evening.

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On the good side for Bangkok Phuket Hospital.

Wife had something stuck in her ear and it was increasingly painful.

Tried a clinic in Patong but they said no, you must go to hospital.

 

As we were flying out 4 days later I took her to Bangkok Phuket as an ear problem with the variation in cabin pressure could be extremely painful.

 

First class service, taken by a nurse upstairs to the ear ward, Had BP etc taken and saw a doctor in 10 minutes or so and she located the problem, removed it and that was it. No meds prescribed not even ear drops!

 

The longest wait was to pay the bill which was I thought reasonable at B1950.

And don't forget the free parking, in NZ that alone would have cost me B400

 

Certainly a lot more than we used to pay but I was expecting much more.

And we got some delicious foodstall food as we left from the carpark stalls as a bonus

 

 

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14 hours ago, Patong2 said:

On the good side for Bangkok Phuket Hospital.

Wife had something stuck in her ear and it was increasingly painful.

Tried a clinic in Patong but they said no, you must go to hospital.

 

As we were flying out 4 days later I took her to Bangkok Phuket as an ear problem with the variation in cabin pressure could be extremely painful.

 

First class service, taken by a nurse upstairs to the ear ward, Had BP etc taken and saw a doctor in 10 minutes or so and she located the problem, removed it and that was it. No meds prescribed not even ear drops!

 

The longest wait was to pay the bill which was I thought reasonable at B1950.

And don't forget the free parking, in NZ that alone would have cost me B400

 

Certainly a lot more than we used to pay but I was expecting much more.

And we got some delicious foodstall food as we left from the carpark stalls as a bonus

 

 

So a happy ending for you P2!😉

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2 hours ago, xylophone said:

So a happy ending for you P2!😉

And in front of the wife

 

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I do not really agree with your point about the donuts. Anyway, they could serve rice and veggies and someone would complain that it was not healthy enough, somehow. 

 

I do agree they treadmill you, and overprescribe you stuff. I think Thais like to be given medicine though so you may blame it on customers. 

 

I don't think the markup you pointed out was out of line. It is well known to simply buy at a pharmacy. If a doctor wont tell you what a medicine is, I would recommend demanding the information or seeing another doctor. That is outright ridiculous. What if it is for pain relief for example, and your pain ceases. They just cannot withhold that information. 

 

I agree it is simply a treadmill business model and they try to soak you for everything they can, especially on these little "preventative" visits where there is usually nothing actually wrong. But not all hospitals are like that, you need to find a good one. Usually the top recommended government hospitals are much better in my experience. 

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A few final points from me:

The tests are a mandatory part of a visit to this chain and can't be avoided even if unlikely to uncover serious problems for many. They are more about getting a bit more money out of the customer to pay for staff.

However, as quite a large proportion of patients, particularly short time tourists, present with flu or dengue type symptoms the tests can be essential. It's a small cost that I have no problem paying. I certainly wouldn't head to a government hospital just to avoid this charge.

 

Someone mentioned different pricing for non-citizens at said government hospitals, I think this was mandated by the government a while back.

 

It was interesting to hear about the actual difference in billing for insured and non-insured. In other threads, as a self insurer, I've used the argument several times that, for comparison purposes, my bills are lower than for those with insurance.

 

 

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2 hours ago, sucit said:

I do not really agree with your point about the donuts.

Well then we'll have to disagree about the donuts, and my point was mainly because it's well-known that donuts contain far too much sugar, palm oil and other ingredients that are not generally recommended for good health – – but to be sitting in the hospital waiting room reading about how to cut out sugar, carbohydrates, palm oil etc from one's diet in order to remain healthy, only to find there is a store selling items which include all of those inside the place is a nonsense.

 

How about a sandwich type shop with fresh ingredients on show and low GI bread for example – – even Subway would be healthier in the main! As I said, it's just about the money.

 

2 hours ago, Old Croc said:

However, as quite a large proportion of patients, particularly short time tourists, present with flu or dengue type symptoms the tests can be essential

Agree with the main points of your post OC, but when the tests are mandatory and mean nothing whatsoever, then they're highly unlikely to be of any use.

 

For example my blood pressure was through the roof (well over the 185 mark which is critical), which should have presented them with a medical emergency, but the nurse simply noted it and nothing was done, and it was not even mentioned by any of the other nurses or the doctor for that matter, so as far as being an essential part of the checkup, it's not worth a toss – – money again.

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9 hours ago, xylophone said:

For example my blood pressure was through the roof (well over the 185 mark which is critical), which should have presented them with a medical emergency, but the nurse simply noted it and nothing was done, and it was not even mentioned by any of the other nurses or the doctor for that matter, so as far as being an essential part of the checkup, it's not worth a toss – – money again.

The nurses do note the test results on your medical sheet that goes to the doctor. It's up to the doctor to take any action they deem necessary.

I've had the nurses take my BP again on doctors orders before going in to see them. 

And, as stated before, the simple ear check for fever is important for many ailments. When I had problems with foot edema (swelling) I've had my weight checked again because weight gain indicates how much fluids are building up. Also, low blood oxygen can be dangerous. 

My last, last word - I think these tests are necessary for many reasons for many patients. The nurses are not there to diagnose, so the hospital does adopt a scatter gun approach by testing all, much to the chagrin of some. Again, I consider the cost to be small, there are other, bigger things in the medical system to complain about like the markup on medicines.

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Went along to the hospital today to get a skin lesion checked out, as I do on a regular basis, what with being fair skinned and having worked in the Sahara desert for a few years, and saw the skin specialist for no more than five minutes, if that.

 

Hey I have had a lot experience with skin lesion...I have a whole drawer full of creams that dont work.....I am not crazy about giving medical advice on forms but  I thought I would just throw this out there,it will probably be ignored but what the heck....

I have had good success treating little skin lesions with Dettol.....I just give them a about a 5-10 minute soak with undiluted Dettol then wash it off.....The place might very well look a lot worse for a few days....Wait 3 days for the place to crust up...After 3 days the crust will come off and and that might be good enough or a repeat might be necessary....I know this might sound like nonsense but just one little skin test might show some results.....

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On 1/31/2020 at 2:38 AM, Old Croc said:

The nurses do note the test results on your medical sheet that goes to the doctor. It's up to the doctor to take any action they deem necessary.

I've had the nurses take my BP again on doctors orders before going in to see them. 

And, as stated before, the simple ear check for fever is important for many ailments. When I had problems with foot edema (swelling) I've had my weight checked again because weight gain indicates how much fluids are building up. Also, low blood oxygen can be dangerous. 

My last, last word - I think these tests are necessary for many reasons for many patients. The nurses are not there to diagnose, so the hospital does adopt a scatter gun approach by testing all, much to the chagrin of some. Again, I consider the cost to be small, there are other, bigger things in the medical system to complain about like the markup on medicines.

Well again we're going to have to agree to disagree............... 

 

The blood pressure tests are not taken as per correct medical procedures, so are basically useless and tell one nothing about their blood pressure.

 

My weight was not checked at my last visit.

My height was not checked at my last visit.

My temperature was not checked at my last visit.

 

As for the markup on medicines, well it's more the principle of being scammed and ripped off by having a 300% markup on medicines. But then again I'm sure that if you had to pay 9,000 baht for a 3,000 baht medicine then that would be a different story.

 

I agree that the nurses are not there to diagnose, however having a blood pressure which was life-threatening should well have been bought to the attention of the doctor, by the nurse. If not, then they are about as useless as tits on a bull.
 

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12 minutes ago, xylophone said:

My height was not checked at my last visit.

Do you think it might have changed?

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13 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Do you think it might have changed?

Well I know that is a smartass comment on your behalf, however it is one of the measurements they take prior to seeing the doctor, don't ask me exactly why, but they do.

 

And for the record, yes your height can change as one gets older what with the compression of discs etc, however that was not really what you meant now, was it!!!!!!
 

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