dinsdale Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 23 hours ago, FarFlungFalang said: Not sure what you mean by misleading as it seem pretty straightforward it says Thais need a license to grow up to one rai of the species of cannabis specified by the administration seems pretty clear.Perhaps you could be more specific? Maybe you don't know what I mean by headline and the difference between headline and article. What you are quoting is the last paragraph in the article which makes things clear. The headline and even the lead paragraph does not. Here's the headline... New rule allows growth of cannabis plants This is not clear. Does this mean you can grow for personal use? It is not until the final paragraph where we discover it doesn't mean this hence I see the headline is misleading. Hope this clarifies my post for you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarFlungFalang Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 19 minutes ago, dinsdale said: Maybe you don't know what I mean by headline and the difference between headline and article. What you are quoting is the last paragraph in the article which makes things clear. The headline and even the lead paragraph does not. Here's the headline... New rule allows growth of cannabis plants This is not clear. Does this mean you can grow for personal use? It is not until the final paragraph where we discover it doesn't mean this hence I see the headline is misleading. Hope this clarifies my post for you. As I said I wasn't sure what you meant but I see your point and totally agree it is unclear and I think the uncertainty will continue in this period of transition and I also agree that the headlines which are translated do cause me to wonder about the misleading nature of some of these headlines,and yes this clarifies beautifully your post.Thanks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtls2005 Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 1 hour ago, dinsdale said: This is not clear. Does this mean you can grow for personal use? I too had the foil and wire cap off the champers bottle until I saw the reference to "one rai" and knew this was about hemp and not "6-plants". Champagne back on ice. BJT/DoH/Anutin has promised some movement on 6-plants in March, but I suspect any proposal to very tightly controlled: permit(s), police checks, gov't approved genetics & growing techniques, spot checks. Given the re-sale issues I can't see 6-plants ever getting any traction; there are many many many other hurdles as well. And one aspect of 6-plants is that people can sell product back to the government. Thus, I can't see everyone being allowed to grow anything using any techniques; pesticide use, for example. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assurancetourix Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 On 1/28/2020 at 6:16 PM, FarFlungFalang said: the situation is 100% under control I already read this not long ago ... from the mouth of the great general It's dangerous to quote, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarFlungFalang Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 2 hours ago, Assurancetourix said: I already read this not long ago ... from the mouth of the great general It's dangerous to quote, right? Not an unrealistic quote as I’m sure the generals are trying their best to keep this industry 100% under their control to maximize trough contributions.It’s looking look they are trying to make it very difficult for the average poor Thai farmer to make any money from this industry which is not totally unexpected.It seems that any progress made to benefit the farmers is coming solely from Anutin but I maybe wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number 6 Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 20 hours ago, Ian Pazgon said: The news reported in this topic is specifically for HEMP. Farmers can grow 1 rai of Hemp which is used for clothing, paper, or other environmentally friendly uses. Other licenses are issued for growing Medical Grade Cannabis, but the household limit is 1-6 plants. Below are more details in regards to applying for the license to grow any type of Hemp or Cannabis. This information is directly from the Thai FDA and Ministry of Health. I work in this industry and my clinic has already been granted the license to grow, manufacture medicine, and distribute Medical Grade Cannabis as of January 2020 (Origene Clinic, Pattaya). 1. Purpose for Cultivation Farmers must inform the Thai FDA and the Ministry of Health of the reason they plan to grow Medical Grade Cannabis. Reasons for growing include: Research, Medical Use, Import, or Export. Farmers must also report on the number of plants they intend to grow. 2. Chemical Analysis of Land & Soil Farmland used for growing Medical Grade Cannabis must be free from pesticides and heavy metals. The Thai FDA and the Ministry of Health will assess the land and take random samples for chemical analysis. 3. Background Check Farmers applying for licenses to grow Medical Grade Cannabis will be audited by the Office Of The Narcotics Control Board (ONCB). History of drug abuse or criminal activity will disqualify farmers from being licensed. 4. Production Ability Farmers must propose a plan for harvesting, which includes suitable areas to process and store Medical Grade Cannabis after cultivation. NOTE: Once farmers have been licensed, they will continuously work with the Thai FDA and Ministry of Health in regards to cultivation and harvesting Medical Grade Cannabis for Thailand. The government will control and audit all farmers to deter them from selling Medical Grade Cannabis under-the-table or contaminating crops with pesticides in the future. Ian Pazgon General Manager Medical grade cannabis ROTFFLMAO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number 6 Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 18 hours ago, BritManToo said: Learn to use the ignore function and never be annoyed again. You knew from the thread title we'd all be wanting drugs, why did you even click on the topic? What, you came here to express a bit of 'faux outrage' and virtue signal? I'm not virtue signaling. Drugs to me seem utterly passe. This is not the 60, 70 or 80s. I'm throughly bored by the people that need them and their never ending quest to find them. Especially when this occurs in a country that is known full well to have harsh and arbitrary drug laws especially against foreigners. But the idiots do it none the same. I just have a good laugh when people post they've been arrested for drugs OR it's Christmas please go and visit all the numb nuts in prison put their of their own stupidity, greed or both. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overherebc Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 I think the whole thing gets really funny when you hear ( not read, hear ) expats in their 60's and older talking about smoking weed, wow mate that stuff you got last night was fantastic, Soon it's going to be legal like Holland and we can grow our own and get really stoned every night. Sorry to all you weed heads out there, you're idiots. Now you can flame me for having a couple of glasses of wine with my meal at night and maybe a couple of whiskies while watching tv at night. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BritManToo Posted January 30, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 30, 2020 3 minutes ago, overherebc said: Now you can flame me for having a couple of glasses of wine with my meal at night and maybe a couple of whiskies while watching tv at night. I'd like to have a few glasses of wine, a couple of whiskies then vape a few buds while watching TV at night. What exactly is the difference between you and me? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overherebc Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 19 minutes ago, BritManToo said: I'd like to have a few glasses of wine, a couple of whiskies then vape a few buds while watching TV at night. What exactly is the difference between you and me? I won't end up getting banged up, fined or worse for my enjoyment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briansbiology Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 On 1/28/2020 at 7:45 PM, Number 6 said: If the hoi poloy are high as kites. Who's watching the public interest? 90% of stoners are dumb as a box of rocks 94% of non-stoners are dumb as a box of rocks though..... 93% of general population. Smarter people would choose Marijuana over all other intoxicants. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post briansbiology Posted January 31, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 31, 2020 10 hours ago, overherebc said: I won't end up getting banged up, fined or worse for my enjoyment. liver disease. obesity and hangovers dont sound so smart though..... 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overherebc Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 14 minutes ago, briansbiology said: liver disease. obesity and hangovers dont sound so smart though..... Husband in prison, maybe deported if he had enough of the weed at home, wife and kids with no income doesn't sound smart either. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarFlungFalang Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 (edited) 11 hours ago, overherebc said: I think the whole thing gets really funny when you hear ( not read, hear ) expats in their 60's and older talking about smoking weed, wow mate that stuff you got last night was fantastic, Soon it's going to be legal like Holland and we can grow our own and get really stoned every night. Sorry to all you weed heads out there, you're idiots. Now you can flame me for having a couple of glasses of wine with my meal at night and maybe a couple of whiskies while watching tv at night. No need for flaming as you are quite entitled to have what ever it is you wish to imbibe to alter the state of your mind.I would not flame someone for doing that but I might be inclined to flame someone for calling others idiots for doing the same!I hope that you are aware the a couple of glasses of wine and a few whiskies whilst watching tv at night maybe detrimental to your health.Cheers! Edited January 31, 2020 by FarFlungFalang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post geronimo Posted January 31, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 31, 2020 Another step on the long road to recreational ..... 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overherebc Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 If you are in your twenties or whatever and you really need to 'smoke' with your friends everynight then live in a country where you are free to do so. At this time Thailand isn't one of them. If you're older, 50's plus and have, in Thailand, a wife and kids, that comes under the responsibilities flag. Most of these older guys who probably never saw weed in UK would most likely think they were getting 'high' if you broke open some Galloises and re-rolled it in Rizla papers and told them it was Colombian Gold. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarFlungFalang Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 20 minutes ago, geronimo said: Another step on the long road to recreational ..... I'll quote my GPS "you have arrived at your destination". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HHTel Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 How many of the posts so far are about the legalisation of hemp, which is what this thread is about. In spite of the wrong use of the word marijuana in context. This is about hemp, a type of marijuana, which won't give anyone a 'high'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post overherebc Posted January 31, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 31, 2020 9 minutes ago, HHTel said: How many of the posts so far are about the legalisation of hemp, which is what this thread is about. In spite of the wrong use of the word marijuana in context. This is about hemp, a type of marijuana, which won't give anyone a 'high'. Have no fear. A good few will pay money for it, smoke it after drinking 12 beers and convince themselves it's 'really good stuff man, wow' ???????? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzian Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 That bit about "only species specified" could be a real catch. Of course it is hard for most people to tell types apart before they flower, but certain kinds of big juicy buds are impossible to disguise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarFlungFalang Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 5 minutes ago, Enzian said: That bit about "only species specified" could be a real catch. Of course it is hard for most people to tell types apart before they flower, but certain kinds of big juicy buds are impossible to disguise. There are three species of Cannabis and they are Sativa,Indica and Ruderalis which is commonly known as hemp.Contrary to what some believe hemp is a species of Cannabis,as a quick google search will reveal.Although it could be a catch I’ve read that the administration wants to legalize Sativa which is a native of Thailand.That catch will come when they nominate particular “strains” as there are many different strains in each species.Time will tell when the wording of the new laws is released after the new laws have passed through the parliamentary process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briansbiology Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 2 hours ago, overherebc said: Husband in prison, maybe deported if he had enough of the weed at home, wife and kids with no income doesn't sound smart either. yes locking people up for weed is stupid. dead right. ???? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overherebc Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 (edited) 31 minutes ago, briansbiology said: yes locking people up for weed is stupid. dead right. ???? Not locking people up for breaking the law in any country is clever then? I honestly don't care if people choose to walk around with a Bob Marley sized joint in their lips, it's their choice but calling a country's law stupid just because you think it is, is your decision. Just tell the policeman who busts you for that he is as stupid as the law. Edited January 31, 2020 by overherebc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Weird Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 On 1/28/2020 at 5:49 PM, TheDark said: So we are finally allowed to grow and consume weed.. If that's what you think, you didn't read the OP very well... “Preliminary, this regulation allows the cultivation of cannabis plants by individuals and corporation, subject to the conditions on trade and possession. The regulation also states that growers must be licensed, and grow only species specified in the new regulation”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samuttodd Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 (edited) On 1/29/2020 at 10:50 AM, HHTel said: http://www.khaosodenglish.com/news/crimecourtscalamity/2019/12/31/govt-plows-ahead-with-new-law-allowing-farmers-to-grow-1-rai-of-hemp/ Nobody's going to get high on hemp. Unless there is something wrong with this table, there should be a little over 2 rai in an acre... 17,222 sq ft per rai. You could grow a <deleted> victory garden in that amount of space. Edited January 31, 2020 by samuttodd 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarFlungFalang Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 (edited) 28 minutes ago, samuttodd said: Unless there is something wrong with this table, there should be a little over 2 rai in an acre... 17,222 sq ft per rai. You could grow a <deleted> victory garden in that amount of space. 40x40 metres for we metric types.Plenty of room for many plants and each plant will have to be genetically tested to make sure they are not the incorrect species.Times that by each household growing 1 Rai tells me it's a good time to invest in the companies that do genetic testing of cannabis plants.That's without having to deal with all the plants that will start to grow wild because some unscrupulous types spreading seeds of plants with levels of THC way in excess of the legal limit like 20% and more and these plants will have no legal owners.Good luck with the "tightly controlled" aspect of this program! Edited January 31, 2020 by FarFlungFalang 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtls2005 Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 No clue what the point of the rai/acre/m2 discussions might be? Too much space? Not enough? Hemp production was approved in 2017, in 15 districts in six northern provinces; Chiang Mai, Chiang Rai, Nan, Tak, Phetchabun and Mae Hong Son for indigenous tribes. This was actually started by HRH Queen Sirikit (~2005-ish) as an extension of efforts to reallocate agricultural activities from certain illegal crops to those which are more beneficial. Until 2017 Hemp was criminalized for these peoples, and they were prosecuted. This latest news is simply an extension of the that program, to farmers elsewhere. It also does open up hemp production for big agra, so would expect the little guy to get hosed yet again. Again, and hopefully for the last time, this proposal is regarding the growing of hemp, with no more than 0.3% THC, which would be used for fiber/cloth/oil. Hemp was also legalized in the U.S. in 2018 (Hemp Farming Act, which was part of a larger Farm Bill). Regarding psychoactive cannabis, there has been some talk of decriminalizing it (removing it from the two relevant legal acts), and allowing homes to grow up to six plants, and to allow people to use this cannabis in their homes, and for them to sell this cannabis to the government for use in extraction for medical oils. Who knows how that might shake out? First step would be to pray Anutin returns healthy from Wuhan. BJT has some leverage, and I think they lost out on the 3-chemicals kerfuffle so maybe they'll get some traction on 6-plants. Their platform did include these proposals. Proud to be (T)Hai... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CraigInBangkok Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 42 minutes ago, mtls2005 said: allowing homes to grow up to six plants, and to allow people to use this cannabis in their homes hmmm One mother and a couple of hundread cuttings .... thats one plant right ???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarFlungFalang Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 5 minutes ago, CraigInBangkok said: hmmm One mother and a couple of hundread cuttings .... thats one plant right ???? Genius!That might be the legal loophole I’m looking for.Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtls2005 Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 17 minutes ago, CraigInBangkok said: hmmm One mother and a couple of hundread cuttings .... thats one plant right ???? Assuming you want to go with photoperiods, then one mother and 5 clones would make six, I guess. The government might sell cuttings, if only to standardize the genetics? And don't post the silly pictures of the 20 pound plants, those won't grow here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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