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My experience flying into Suvarnabhumi yesterday


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On 1/31/2020 at 10:49 PM, Monomial said:

The black death killed only 20 - 30 million.

and what was the world's population then? Way less than 8 billion, for sure.

 

I'll forgo the desire to postulate on Gaia's input on it, but certainly hand disinfectant ain't going to do diddly squat in preventing it spreading when most people now live in overcrowded cities- the ideal way to breed incurable diseases, and our desire to travel by air is the ideal way to spread it worldwide rapidly.

So what do they do- check people AFTER they have spent hours breathing infected people's exhalations. Even a simple person can work out the way to prevent spread is by checking passengers BEFORE they fly.

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On 1/31/2020 at 10:49 AM, Monomial said:

Don't panic. Be logical. Demand the damned hand sanitizer. You need to be concerned about this.

Why?

Sanitizing your hands does not protect you from a virus that is transmitted via the air (exhaled droplets) and infects your lungs ...

/facepalm

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10 minutes ago, Enki said:

Why?

Sanitizing your hands does not protect you from a virus that is transmitted via the air (exhaled droplets) and infects your lungs ...

/facepalm

if those exhaled droplets land on the finger pad scanner and the person sticks their finger in their mouth up up their nose could they catch it ?

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6 minutes ago, Don Mega said:

if those exhaled droplets land on the finger pad scanner and the person sticks their finger in their mouth up up their nose could they catch it ?

Yes. But that is a far sketched scenario. You most likely see the one in front of you sneezing, or not?

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5 minutes ago, Enki said:

Yes. But that is a far sketched scenario. You most likely see the one in front of you sneezing, or not?

So it is a possibility then, thanks for the confirmation.

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On 1/29/2020 at 8:08 AM, shy coconut said:

I reckon you're just upset because the IO stamped you in without any extra questions,

hoping you could report about the awful treatment you received.

 

Where are these pens of which you speak and why would you need to use one?

I fill out the form on the plane stating where I'm staying, and flight details etc, but

then again I fly in and out quite often and prepare accordingly.

 

 

I too fill out mine on the plane on the fold down tray that I've wiped down with my own sanitizer when I first boarded the plane

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15 minutes ago, retoohs said:

I too fill out mine on the plane on the fold down tray.

I'm the same, not as though Iam too busy doing other things !!

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9 hours ago, Enki said:

Why?

Sanitizing your hands does not protect you from a virus that is transmitted via the air (exhaled droplets) and infects your lungs ...

/facepalm

 

The average person touches their face over 50 times in an hour. That is the biggest transmission mechanism. While a virus can survive airborn, it is much more easily transmitted on a less harsh medium such as a countertop or your hand. As I said earlier about masks, the fact that something is only 99% effective rather than 100% does not mean it is useless. Wear a mask to protect yourself from suspended droplets. Use hand sanitizer always to protect yourself from virally loaded particles on a surface, and your chances of catching the virus diminish to being infected by free floating virus surviving alone in the air.

 

If you can limit the only transmission vector to independent viral particles in the air less than 0.3 microns, the virus is  going to die out very quickly. That is a very difficult way to spread a virus.

 

Edit:  Also, I hope you used hand santizer before you "/facepalmed". That is a perfect example of a very effective way to spread a virus.

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9 minutes ago, Monomial said:

The average person touches their face over 50 times in an hour.

There's a good way to prevent that:

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I'd like to propose all Chinese tourists must wear this safety device.

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Am surprised the OP actually got admitted to the County. Would imagine the Immigration Officer was considering a different course of action with some attitude adjustment in Bang Kwang

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On 1/30/2020 at 12:59 PM, pdtokyo said:

o dear, if The Australian and Peter Dutton are your source of information and influencers then there is little further i can say to help you ...

 

But today's revelation is that for the privilege of being flown to 'safety' on C.I, Oz government wants each passenger to cough up (no pun intended) A$1,000 or approx B20,000 ...

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/australians-will-need-to-pay-1000-to-be-evacuated-from-wuhan-20200130-p53w71.html

 

After the 14 day quarantine, the victims will be dumped at nearest mainland airport (Perth) and told to find their own way home. Chances are they live in Sydney or Melbourne and flew over their homes on the way from China to Christmas Island. Another $300 - $700 airfare there.

 

Government have assured everyone that if necessary, evacuees needing medical attention would be further relocated to mainland hospitals ... now why would they even bother to say that if the Christmas Island facilities were adequate?

 

Also, Australian Medical Association (basically, the group representing all Australian doctors) thinks it's a <deleted> idea. But what would they know?

 

All a bit academic anyway, at time of writing the Oz 'rescue' flights have not got Chinese authority to leave.

 

So if I get what you are saying correctly, QANTAS flew south from China over Sydney and Melbourne then did a U turn and flew north to pretty well Indonesia.

Geography doesn't appear to be one of your strengths.

Darwin is much closer to Christmas Island than Perth by the way.

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On 1/31/2020 at 10:17 AM, tifino said:

but, isn't it, and all 100ml stuff;  all to 'remain' Sealed inside the clear through view-inspectable bag? (that would render an atomiser disinfectant bottle unuseable)

Could always do what I did. Take it out of the bag and use it after the fingerprint scanner.

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