justin case Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 13 hours ago, NanLaew said: There's nothing worse than the arrogant, know-it-all, so-called experienced traveler, long-time Thailand visitor or lurker who's totally aware of a possible pandemic and yet gets on an international flight to Thailand which is right next to the epicenter of the coronavirus outbreak and is itself chock full of visiting and transient Chinese WITHOUT PACKING AND USING HIS OWN BLOODY HAND SANITIZING GEL. Did the OP bother to buy and wear his own mask? Didn't mention it anywhere. Or is that only required if you're a snotty, grotty Asiatic sort? thai apologist at work so to see if there is a chance of virus spread, is it not the country to offer basic measures ? me for one, I don't ask to TRAVEL but are being forced after divorced and hostile ex-wife... I am a forced border runner now, if I want to be able to stay with my child ... blabla local immigration & correct visa : my ex-wife is keeping original documents of my child, so I cannot apply for the correct visa ... went there twice and they laugh for your misery ... not shy to say the <deleted>hole immigration is : SAMUT PRAKARN never understood why SAMUT prakarn immigration is not RIGHT NEXT to the airport or in the aiport, no , it is in a <deleted>hole near the port 45 km further in the middle of knowhere... you CW people are so lucky, to get all banks , restaurants, atm's, passbook machines, etc... 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post EVENKEEL Posted January 29, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 29, 2020 And here I'm just happy to get my passport stamped without questions. Silly me. 2 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLW Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 11 hours ago, pdtokyo said: I'm not taking sides here ... can see some merit in in the original post and in some of those who have reacted so ... enthusiastically. ... but a tiny point ... it's really difficult to carry bottles of ANYTHING on flights ... i can't recall seeing hand sanitizer packaged in small enough bottles to get past the scanners. My plan is to re-pack some sanitizer into a 100ml bottle for my flight into Don Muaeng this weekend and hope nobody asks me to explain what's in it ... my Thai is limited to sawaddi-khrup and kop-kun-khrup ... and i haven't got the time or spare brain cells to memorise the Thai for "Good morning officer, It's hand sanitizer that i took out of a big bottle and put into this little bottle''* * อรุณสวัสดิ์เจ้าหน้าที่มันเป็นเจลทำความสะอาดมือที่ฉันหยิบขวดใหญ่ออกมาแล้วใส่ลงไปในขวดเล็ก ๆ นี้ according to Google Watsons Drugstores in Thailand has (maybe past tense "had" fits better as currently it's probably sold out) small bottles of hand sanitizer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sucit Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 7 hours ago, Andrew Dwyer said: Okay, so maybe the OP was a tad dramatic in his post but instead of slagging him off big time I prefer to learn from this. Travel to Thailand should be avoided at this present time if possible, but if absolutely necessary take your own steps to protect yourself. Wherever in the world you are coming from masks are available: take the time to purchase the best available and sufficient for yourself and family with regular changes. Hand sanitizers are also available in pretty much every place, if you can find the sachets better still, if possible transfer to smaller bottles. Hand wipes are also a good option. Attempt to have as little contact with crowds as possible, carry your own pen, avoid touching the toilet door etc ( the usual stuff just be more attentive ) clean the fingerprint scanner. Etc Never assume others are going to care about your wellbeing, airport workers primary objective is to move legal travellers on as soon as possible they probably think the hand sanitiser has been given to them as they handle many passports and probably still do not use it !! A large portion of the visiting population in this place comes to areas where bodily fluids are exchanged with multiple persons per evening. I don't think hand sanitizers are gonna cut it. Or are we pretending Chinese go to pattaya for the beaches? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunsetT Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 12 hours ago, pdtokyo said: re-pack some sanitizer into a 100ml bottle I think that it has to be LESS than 100ml. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunsetT Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 Thanks! I agree; not reassuring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedrogaz Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 Avoid planes and airports until they have the situation under control and the number of reported cases grows at a much lesser rate. Planes have to be the worst places for infections with all that air-con recirculating the virus laden air. Is there any evidence that disinfecting the plane will prevent getting infected by the passenger next to you who coughs and sneezes during the entire long haul flight? I have cancelled my flights next month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TallGuyJohninBKK Posted January 29, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 29, 2020 14 hours ago, Genmai said: We were all told by the media and the PM that certain measures were being taken to ensure the control of this virus. What I’m doing is presenting my account of how all of that is false. It seems to me the above comment is the main point of the OP's post, regardless of what preparations he did or didn't bring for himself. As usual, the official TALK and PROMISES here far exceeds the ACTION. The OP's experience at the airport has matched my experience living here in BKK re the virus... little of the promised precautions and protections are to be found where they're supposedly being offered. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamesgplayemail Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 what did you expect ? so funny... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 15 hours ago, Genmai said: Only one IO was wearing gloves (a woman). Open coffee mugs at the IO stations. Staff with cheap 20 baht surgical masks on, gaps on all sides. Some pulled the masks down under their noses so they could potentially breathe in the virus better. Staff checking passports and forms in the queue handling everything without gloves. Photo op time for the news media... After that, who knows.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLW Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 Honestly, did anyone expect another outcome or observation? Laws, rules and regulations here are neither followed nor enforced. Moreover, if you as a foreigner make a fuss about anything that you see wrong, they shrug their shoulders and roll eyes. In the sense of "What do you want, you are foreigner, we are Thai. If you don't like it, you can go home or accept our attitude" 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Nanaplaza666 Posted January 29, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 29, 2020 15 hours ago, NanLaew said: There's nothing worse than the arrogant, know-it-all, so-called experienced traveler, long-time Thailand visitor or lurker who's totally aware of a possible pandemic and yet gets on an international flight to Thailand which is right next to the epicenter of the coronavirus outbreak and is itself chock full of visiting and transient Chinese WITHOUT PACKING AND USING HIS OWN BLOODY HAND SANITIZING GEL. Did the OP bother to buy and wear his own mask? Didn't mention it anywhere. Or is that only required if you're a snotty, grotty Asiatic sort? Damn my friend, couldn't have said it any better . Your spot on . 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanaplaza666 Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 14 hours ago, Genmai said: Aaah you sure got me there buddy. Yep, I didn’t bring my own hand gel. That’s why I’ve got it all wrong and airport staff are actually doing their utmost best at stopping more potentially infected people from getting through. They’re all taking their job very VERY seriously. I’m a fool and all the precautions are actually being followed through by the airport staff. Oh and the PM really does have it all under control. Tell me, are you the type of guy who brings his own cutlery to a restaurant? Because let me tell you, there’s nothing worse than the arrogant, know it all, so called experienced eater, long time restaurant visitor or lurker who doesn’t PACK AND USE HIS OWN BLOODY CUTLERY. Or his own airbag/seatbelt when getting in a car. Or his own arrival form. Or the myriad number of things that should be commonplace in certain situations. No I did not have the forethought to bring my own gel. You know who else didn’t? Literally everybody in the airport at the time. It’s the job of staff in public places to appropriately prepare such items. You know, like in a HOSPITAL? Did your plain land at a hospital ?????? If you go to a restaurant you expect there to be knives forks etc . If you drive a car , you expect it to have a stearing wheel seatbelt etc IF YOU GO TO AN AIRPORT YOU EXPECT THERE TO BE SOMEBODY TO CHECK YOUR PASSPORT THAT'S IT, OR DO YOU EXPECT SOMEONE TO WAIT TO PICK UP YOUR SUITCASE GO THREU PASSPORT CONTROLE TAKE A TAXI AND SPEND YOUR HOLLIDAY TIME FOR YOU WHILE YOU STAY AT THE AIRPORT WAIT FOR THIS PERSON TO COME BACK CHECK IN YOUR LUGGAGE AND GIVE YOU YOUR BOARDINGPASS SO YOU CAN FLY BACK TO WHEREVER YOU CAME FROM . LOOKS LIKE YOUR A PERSON THAT WAITS FOR SOMEONE TO COME CLEAN THEIR ... AFTER THEY FINISH TAKING A .... MAYBE YOU SHOULD BE BRINGING YOUR MOMMY NEXT TIME . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCC1701A Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 15 hours ago, Genmai said: In short, there's not a chance in hell they are going to contain this thing. I advise everyone to plan accordingly. "Who say that?" 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liverpudlian Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 Has to be the best topic i have seen here and boy are the knitting needle mob here happy clanging away when they see a head roll into a basket. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanaplaza666 Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 13 hours ago, pdtokyo said: I'm not taking sides here ... can see some merit in in the original post and in some of those who have reacted so ... enthusiastically. ... but a tiny point ... it's really difficult to carry bottles of ANYTHING on flights ... i can't recall seeing hand sanitizer packaged in small enough bottles to get past the scanners. My plan is to re-pack some sanitizer into a 100ml bottle for my flight into Don Muaeng this weekend and hope nobody asks me to explain what's in it ... my Thai is limited to sawaddi-khrup and kop-kun-khrup ... and i haven't got the time or spare brain cells to memorise the Thai for "Good morning officer, It's hand sanitizer that i took out of a big bottle and put into this little bottle''* * อรุณสวัสดิ์เจ้าหน้าที่มันเป็นเจลทำความสะอาดมือที่ฉันหยิบขวดใหญ่ออกมาแล้วใส่ลงไปในขวดเล็ก ๆ นี้ according to Google There are small bottles of hand sanitizer sold . Its like a small spray bottle not much bigger then a lighter . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHolmesJr Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 You have to take your own precautions....they never will. I carry a small 75ml spray bottle of isopropyl alcohol. N95 mask only used in densely packed spaces or high risk areas... packed subway carriage etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traubert Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 15 hours ago, Genmai said: As for learning disinfectant in Thai - sure, I’ll do that if you willing teach it to the millions of potentially infected Chinese visitors coming here AND get them to ask for it. Chinese already have it. It's the Chinese who are dying, no-one else. They're prepared. You werent. Runny nose doesn't mean you are infected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post URMySunshine Posted January 29, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 29, 2020 Given you experience you should now spend the rest of your vacation quarantined in a suitable hotel room until your flight home. Make one big trip to a supermarket and stock up with enough weeks worth of food and water to last. DON'T allow cleaners into the room under any circumstances and at the end of your staycation , mask and google up and flee by taxi to the airport and back to civilisation. That should keep you nice and safe. Have a nice holiday otherwise and keep us informed. 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Dwyer Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 1 hour ago, sucit said: A large portion of the visiting population in this place comes to areas where bodily fluids are exchanged with multiple persons per evening. I don't think hand sanitizers are gonna cut it. Or are we pretending Chinese go to pattaya for the beaches? I thought the OP was about Coronavirus and how to take precautions while traveling ? What happens here is a different matter altogether and people should protect themselves appropriately. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jimn Posted January 29, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 29, 2020 9 hours ago, BritManToo said: Liquid not allowed on flight. Now come on, for someone with your claimed extensive travelling experience should know that is not a true statement. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmen Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 Signs of compulsive obsession from OP.. Get help 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
URMySunshine Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 Me and the missus are leaving the condo to go out into Hat Yai centre - wish us luck. Hand gel , ethyl alcohol and masks in the bag just in case. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mansell Posted January 29, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 29, 2020 I thought the guy had good info on the reality here.....he is giving you a heads up on the whole reality virus issue in this country. Why would you attack him? I guess small minds have nothing better to do. As most of you on here are probably over sixty and this is the group of people who are most likely to have serious health issues with this particular virus. Hopefully it won’t turn into a pandemic....if it does I wonder how many of the naysayers on here will be whining. 555 3 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight8 Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 16 hours ago, NanLaew said: There's nothing worse than the arrogant, know-it-all, so-called experienced traveler, long-time Thailand visitor or lurker who's totally aware of a possible pandemic and yet gets on an international flight to Thailand which is right next to the epicenter of the coronavirus outbreak and is itself chock full of visiting and transient Chinese WITHOUT PACKING AND USING HIS OWN BLOODY HAND SANITIZING GEL. Did the OP bother to buy and wear his own mask? Didn't mention it anywhere. Or is that only required if you're a snotty, grotty Asiatic sort? A total dingbat if you ask me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
galenjones Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 15 hours ago, Genmai said: Aaah you sure got me there buddy. Yep, I didn’t bring my own hand gel. That’s why I’ve got it all wrong and airport staff are actually doing their utmost best at stopping more potentially infected people from getting through. They’re all taking their job very VERY seriously. I’m a fool and all the precautions are actually being followed through by the airport staff. Oh and the PM really does have it all under control. Tell me, are you the type of guy who brings his own cutlery to a restaurant? Because let me tell you, there’s nothing worse than the arrogant, know it all, so called experienced eater, long time restaurant visitor or lurker who doesn’t PACK AND USE HIS OWN BLOODY CUTLERY. Or his own airbag/seatbelt when getting in a car. Or his own arrival form. Or the myriad number of things that should be commonplace in certain situations. No I did not have the forethought to bring my own gel. You know who else didn’t? Literally everybody in the airport at the time. It’s the job of staff in public places to appropriately prepare such items. You know, like in a HOSPITAL? Don't panic. Many people in Thailand are worrying about the coronavirus. The probability of getting infected is 1000.000 times less than to get infected by a mosquito (aedes aegypti = dengue or aedes anopheles = malaria) or to have a fatal accident. You can kiss or having sex with your partner without fear. The most important precautious action is to wash your hands very often. Hands are the most contagious parts of your body. Take care for yourself, don't blame others. The status for the medical judgement is not different from a normal flu. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traubert Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 14 hours ago, jabis said: Thailand just rose to the top of the leaderboard, after Mainland - deaths have not been updated in 2 days - happy travels ???? All the stats are being updated in real time on WeChat. The ones inside China anyway. I think it's about 80 people outside China so they'll have to monitored in the coutrl they're in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post CGW Posted January 29, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 29, 2020 37 minutes ago, Liverpudlian said: Has to be the best topic i have seen here and boy are the knitting needle mob here happy clanging away when they see a head roll into a basket. Good innit ???? sit back and be amused ???? & ???? 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tracyb Posted January 29, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 29, 2020 (edited) 47 minutes ago, Nanaplaza666 said: Did your plain land at a hospital ?????? If you go to a restaurant you expect there to be knives forks etc . If you drive a car , you expect it to have a stearing wheel seatbelt etc IF YOU GO TO AN AIRPORT YOU EXPECT THERE TO BE SOMEBODY TO CHECK YOUR PASSPORT THAT'S IT, OR DO YOU EXPECT SOMEONE TO WAIT TO PICK UP YOUR SUITCASE GO THREU PASSPORT CONTROLE TAKE A TAXI AND SPEND YOUR HOLLIDAY TIME FOR YOU WHILE YOU STAY AT THE AIRPORT WAIT FOR THIS PERSON TO COME BACK CHECK IN YOUR LUGGAGE AND GIVE YOU YOUR BOARDINGPASS SO YOU CAN FLY BACK TO WHEREVER YOU CAME FROM . LOOKS LIKE YOUR A PERSON THAT WAITS FOR SOMEONE TO COME CLEAN THEIR ... AFTER THEY FINISH TAKING A .... MAYBE YOU SHOULD BE BRINGING YOUR MOMMY NEXT TIME . Lower your voice, please! No need for shouting. Edited January 29, 2020 by Tracyb 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight8 Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 9 hours ago, BritManToo said: Liquid not allowed on flight. up to 100ml is ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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