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Yep, by now we all know that coming to Thailand with the right visa, whatever that might be, is not the easiest thing in the world. We also know that travelling to Thailand to much in one year and enter with exempt entry method or with a tourist as well as even an education visa is getting harder. All that is things that can lead to denial of entry to the wonderful Kingdom of Thailand. A place in the world that an enormous amount of people can´t live without, if you read the many posts of panic and fear of denial in this forum. That disregarding the fact that Thailand might have had it´s years and there are other markets developing quicker in many other countries.

However, if we set the types of visas aside, and look in to this a little bit deeper. Can you then give yourself a better chance to, for example, succeed with your 4th visa exempt entry in the same year or be given the possibility to stay in Thailand 1 or even 2 year on tourist visas? What is the tricks some people use, and what do you think can be something that makes your chances better to not have any problem entering Thailand with a previous frequent history of visits?

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17 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Given that it always up to the individual IO as to whether anyone can enter, the only sure fire way to enter LOS is with the correct visa.

If that means some will only get one entry a year, so be it. No one said life was fair, and as the OP points out, LOS is not as lovable as it used to be.

I first visited in the 70s and felt no burning desire to become a yearly multiple entry visitor till the 90s. Were I starting today, I would probably prefer the Phillipines.

Yes, according to me all is like you post, but if we as I mentioned look away from the type of visa. Is certain persons more desirable or not. Does a certain look makes it easier or can a too good look have a negative impact? Like what chance does the hippie have against the yuppie? Do both have the same chance of denial of entry or does the regular guy stand as the winner with a clean shave, ordinary look a nice t-shirt and a pair of jeans?

Even if it´s just up to every single individual IO, they must have some kind of small marks that makes them look at things the same way. I would like to believe, anyway. 🙂 

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Possibly length of previous stays may be a factor. I came visa exempt for 5 years every month. Business visa in my passport from another country so I guess that may add some legitimacy to showing  no intention of seeking work in Thailand during my, on average, 2 week stay. Over 60, black jeans, long sleeved shirt and shoes with backpack is my typical travelling attire. Only once did a female IO advise me to get a visa, which I ignored for a year. Since then I have a multi entry non o. I should add I say nothing to the IO except hello and thank you.

It would be interesting to know more about the people getting denied entry. We hear stories of snowbirds being denied, apparently. just because you are getting on in years you may fit some profile the IO does not like. Maybe 'hippy' looking which used to be a no no years ago?

Interesting topic, hope it gets some legs.

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3 minutes ago, emptypockets said:

Possibly length of previous stays may be a factor. I came visa exempt for 5 years every month. Business visa in my passport from another country so I guess that may add some legitimacy to showing  no intention of seeking work in Thailand during my, on average, 2 week stay. Over 60, black jeans, long sleeved shirt and shoes with backpack is my typical travelling attire. Only once did a female IO advise me to get a visa, which I ignored for a year. Since then I have a multi entry non o. I should add I say nothing to the IO except hello and thank you.

It would be interesting to know more about the people getting denied entry. We hear stories of snowbirds being denied, apparently. just because you are getting on in years you may fit some profile the IO does not like. Maybe 'hippy' looking which used to be a no no years ago?

Interesting topic, hope it gets some legs.

Thanks! Yes, probably your business visa was helping you a lot. However, I am also waiting to hear from more that have been denied out of curious reasons, and why they thought that happen.

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10 minutes ago, Thaidream said:

-Use the fast track lane

-Go to a male IO

-Be dressed in a long sleve shirt and slacks with prop shoes

-Be over the age of 50

-No tattoos showing

-Smile and  say Hello in Thai

-Make sure your  entry card is properly filled out and you have  the boarding pass stub.

-Come into the airport at a busy time

 

All these things will enhance one' chance of getting stamped in even without the proper Visa.

I can agree with most of the things here, except that thing to say hello in Thai. Here you can instead get the reaction that they do not like you to speak Thai after many visits on the wrong visa. Don´t you think it can be a sign you´ve been here too much without a proper visa?

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25 minutes ago, Thaidream said:

-Use the fast track lane

-Go to a male IO

-Be dressed in a long sleve shirt and slacks with prop shoes

-Be over the age of 50

-No tattoos showing

-Smile and  say Hello in Thai

-Make sure your  entry card is properly filled out and you have  the boarding pass stub.

-Come into the airport at a busy time

 

All these things will enhance one' chance of getting stamped in even without the proper Visa.

 

I wouldnt be suggesting this to people if they've spent alot of time in Thailand in recent years. I came in on the 13th using the fast track and the IO looked at my passport and said something about "come alot no good" and he sent me to the regular line. I got let in through the regular line but got no refund on my fast track. I've also read about this happening on here to one other person a couple months ago using fast track. 

 

Another thing I noticed was rather then take my passport and escort me through the line the fast track representative went through a diff lane and waited behind the IO. I told this story on the border runs thread and a guy confirmed the fast track representative did the same thing with him(he was allowed through fast track) I'm thinking they changed some polices and its not really a advantage to use if you've spent alot of time here in recent years. My history was 9 months all TV last year and 6 months a year for a few years before that. I used Thailimo fast track service.

 

 

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12 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I first visited in the 70s and felt no burning desire to become a yearly multiple entry visitor till the 90s. Were I starting today, I would probably prefer the Phillipines.

I've done Thailand, Philippines, Cambodia, Vietnam, Laos many times in the past few years.

If I had to choose a place to live from scratch, it'd probably be Cambodia but I can't decide between SR and PP.

Probably PP, as it gets a bit hot in SR during the summer.

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1 hour ago, lovesthespicy said:

 

I wouldnt be suggesting this to people if they've spent alot of time in Thailand in recent years. I came in on the 13th using the fast track and the IO looked at my passport and said something about "come alot no good" and he sent me to the regular line. I got let in through the regular line but got no refund on my fast track. I've also read about this happening on here to one other person a couple months ago using fast track. 

 

Another thing I noticed was rather then take my passport and escort me through the line the fast track representative went through a diff lane and waited behind the IO. I told this story on the border runs thread and a guy confirmed the fast track representative did the same thing with him(he was allowed through fast track) I'm thinking they changed some polices and its not really a advantage to use if you've spent alot of time here in recent years. My history was 9 months all TV last year and 6 months a year for a few years before that. I used Thailimo fast track service.

 

 

Ok, that was new to me. So, have fast track been something that made it easier before? In that case that has changed, and that of course complicates things for some people. Anyway, nice to hear something that I´ve totally missed out on.

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My $0.02 worth... my (Thai) wife is living here (in Chiang Mai) and I'm working in Singapore and come up once a month for six days, since July last year. I've come in visa exempt for the last six times. I fly direct to CM - of course who wouldn't? Never a problem - put my home address (well some of it - it's so long it won't fit on the form) and never do these TM30/TM6 things that you're supposed to do when not staying in a hotel. In - no questions except once "Is that a hotel?" "No it's my address here, it's a house" - one minute, sometimes two.  Out - stamp, stamp, "put your fingers on the pad" - thirty seconds - apart from that never a word spoken. I have a picture of my wife in my wallet just in case 🙂 Maybe helps that I'm a person of mature years but I'm always in shorts and T-shirt. Occasionally say hello and thank you (in Thai) when I arrive but often don't - five times out of six no conversation whatsoever.

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30 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

I've done Thailand, Philippines, Cambodia, Vietnam, Laos many times in the past few years.

If I had to choose a place to live from scratch, it'd probably be Cambodia but I can't decide between SR and PP.

Probably PP, as it gets a bit hot in SR during the summer.

I have also been around, and like Cambodia very much. However, I would probably chose SR cause I prefer hot weather as well as I´ve always gotten a more bad smell in the air in PP.

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57 minutes ago, lovesthespicy said:

 

I wouldnt be suggesting this to people if they've spent alot of time in Thailand in recent years. I came in on the 13th using the fast track and the IO looked at my passport and said something about "come alot no good" and he sent me to the regular line. I got let in through the regular line but got no refund on my fast track. I've also read about this happening on here to one other person a couple months ago using fast track. 

 

Another thing I noticed was rather then take my passport and escort me through the line the fast track representative went through a diff lane and waited behind the IO. I told this story on the border runs thread and a guy confirmed the fast track representative did the same thing with him(he was allowed through fast track) I'm thinking they changed some polices and its not really a advantage to use if you've spent alot of time here in recent years. My history was 9 months all TV last year and 6 months a year for a few years before that. I used Thailimo fast track service.

 

 

Suwarnabhumi Fast Track for economy class passengers is restricted from July 1st 2019.

Now BKK allows only First and Business class passengers to use Fast Track facility

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1 hour ago, Matzzon said:

I can agree with most of the things here, except that thing to say hello in Thai. Here you can instead get the reaction that they do not like you to speak Thai after many visits on the wrong visa. Don´t you think it can be a sign you´ve been here too much without a proper visa?

Good point- agreed.  

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The closest an IO came to taking issue with me in the Fast Track line was checking my boarding pass.  Once seeing it was business class he waved me on my way. 
 

But for a 20-30-something that has been living and working here under the table for years, with gap-year visas to Australia as their primary breaks, I imagine it is going to get much harder. Your profile will look a lot like a dive instructor (or something), and it is not going to be getting easier. I am starting to get it more and more; there are still some pretty egregious violations that are not being addressed. Still after 20 years I am not really sure if they are “good” or “bad,” but changing it would alter things in a way I would not be happy about. 

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