Dog attack: Pit Bull savages mother and toddler in NE Thailand

[Orton Rd]

I was wrong it's 2 years and or 40k fine, laughable in a country where cock fighting is legal and a look round any market will make you feel sick. Of course this was mainly aimed at dogs, the reason why cannot be discussed.

 

https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/thailand-introduces-new-laws-to-tackle-animal-cruelty

Edited January 29, 2020 by Orton Rd

[Chrysaora]

3 minutes ago, Orton Rd said:

If it's like traffic offenses it's anything the Police say it is

That's #FAKENEWS - no thanks.

[Social Media]

18 minutes ago, Chrysaora said:

Why didn't he shoot the dog?  Bullets shot in the air can kill you.

Are you deranged ! Firing bullets in the direction of a mother and toddler at a comparatively small target !!  You have no knowledge of the gun, the bullets, the ability of the user and you make an irresponsible statement like that !! jeez, talk about irresponsible and reckless.

Edited January 29, 2020 by Black Ops

[Orton Rd]

Just now, Black Ops said:

Are you deranged ! Firing bullets in the direction of a mother and toddler at a comparatively small target !!  You have no knowledge of the gun, the bullets, the ability of the user and you make an irresponsible statement like that !! jeez, talk about irresponsible and

Why not put it against it's head and blow it away?

[Social Media]

7 minutes ago, Chrysaora said:

What's the legal definition of "animal cruelty?"

 

While you're at it, look up the definition of self-defense.

you need to look up irresponsible and reckless mate, you havnt got a clue what you are talking about yet ridicule others with your reckless endangerment.

[Orton Rd]

2 minutes ago, Chrysaora said:

That's #FAKENEWS - no thanks.

You obviously have had little contact with the dealings and decisions of the RTP

[Chrysaora]

1 minute ago, Black Ops said:

Are you deranged ! Firing bullets in the direction of a mother and toddler at a comparatively small target !!  You have no knowledge of the gun, the bullets, the ability of the user and you make an irresponsible statement like that !! jeez, talk about irresponsible and reckless.

I'll bet I own more guns now than you ever did.

 

Oh, how do I know this?  That's easy, the same way you know this ... look down:

 

2 minutes ago, Black Ops said:

Firing bullets in the direction of a mother and toddler at a comparatively small target !!  You have no knowledge of the gun, the bullets, the ability of the user and you make an irresponsible statement like that !! jeez, talk about irresponsible and reckless.

I have shot and killed someone, not in self-defense, but to stop a felony in progress where the perp held a knife to a woman's throat. 

She lived without a scratch, the felon is dead, and I was never prosecuted.

[Social Media]

2 minutes ago, Orton Rd said:

Why not put it against it's head and blow it away?

Anther one that clearly has no knowledge of firearms.

[Orton Rd]

Just now, Black Ops said:

Anther one that clearly has no knowledge of firearms.

Thank goodness

[Social Media]

7 minutes ago, Chrysaora said:

I'll bet I own more guns now than you ever did.

 

Oh, how do I know this?  That's easy, the same way you know this ... look down:

 

I have shot and killed someone, not in self-defense, but to stop a felony in progress where the perp held a knife to a woman's throat. 

She lived without a scratch, the felon is dead, and I was never prosecuted.

Oh please !! if you had any knowledge whatsoever of firearms and ballistics you wouldnt make such a stupid remark. When was this experience when you were in the special forces was it....55555, you got no credibility at all with your nonsense, yeah your a hero in your own imagination.

Edited January 29, 2020 by Black Ops

[CharlieH]

Off topic and response removed.

[Artisi]

Hope the poor doggy wasn't traumatised by all the yelling and screaming and firearms being discharged. 

[Artisi]

25 minutes ago, Orton Rd said:

You obviously have had little contact with the dealings and decisions of the RTP

10 minutes in Thailand 5 on TVF and already an expert on all things. 

[mike787]

10 hours ago, RotBenz8888 said:

Why didn't he just blow the head of that disgusting monster.

AGREED!!!  One less pitbull on this planet only makes it safer to live.  I would empty every bullet I had and reloaded until next week to kill this thing....piece of <deleted>.

Edited January 29, 2020 by mike787

[Orton Rd]

Just now, Artisi said:

10 minutes in Thailand 5 on TVF and already an expert on all things. 

25 years in Thailand and altogether 17 on here

[metisdead]

Some inflammatory posts and the inflammatory replies have been removed. 

[Artisi]

2 minutes ago, Orton Rd said:

25 years in Thailand and altogether 17 on here

I was referring to chrysauro and the "fake news". 

[Orton Rd]

Oh right, woof woof

[oobar]

7 hours ago, BestB said:

8 hours ago, Yinn said:

Today's pit bull is a descendant of the original English bull-baiting dog—a dog that was bred to bite and hold bulls, bears and other large animals around the face and head. When baiting large animals was outlawed in the 1800s, people turned instead to fighting their dogs against each other.

Glad to know you can use google , so tell me again how exactly do they breed them to be violent?

 

maybe you missed it but dog fighting is outlawed and has been for decades.

I grew up in a family that bred hunting dogs, mainly bird dogs, my father being an avid quail hunter.  After a couple hundred years of  selective breeding to reinforce an inherent tendency to "point," or lock on rigidly, at the scent of quail (or grouse or pheasant, etc.), it became a behavioral instinct innate to bird dogs.  For many years, my wife and I raised Irish setters, which are now only rarely used as active hunters and are principally bred for beauty (and their endearing craziness), but even after an ancestry of dozens of generations that have never been introduced to a bobwhite, nearly all Irish setters will still point.  Pit Bulls, although not officially even recognized as a breed, were selected for their aggressiveness and fighting abilities, and the most successfully vicious were chosen by breeders to produce a continuing progeny of fighters -- which is how they were bred "to be violent."  Now, however, many are taken as pets, the same as Irish setters, but after innumerable ancestral generations in which they were no longer bred specifically to fight (because it was made illegal), the instincts to attack and maim can remain, although often hidden deeply beneath a benign friendliness and docility common to dogs in general.  However, you can simply never know when, or if, a sudden movement by a child (or anyone else) may trigger a long-dormant instinct to attack -- just like an Irish setter's instinct can suddenly cause it to lock on point.  A pointing dog hurts no one, but the sudden expression of a pit bull's sleeping instinct to attack, as we see often in Thailand, can be tragic.  There is a valid argument for neutering as many of these kinds of dogs as possible, gradually and humanely removing the bloodline from existence. 

[oobar]

1 hour ago, Black Ops said:

1 hour ago, Orton Rd said:

Why not put it against it's head and blow it away?

Anther one that clearly has no knowledge of firearms.

Or dogs in a savage fury!

[Fred white]

10 hours ago, Beggar said:

Dogs that can seriously hurt or even kill people should not be allowed. 

Where do these dogs come from I had to leave my champion fighter pit bull in the states because they wouldn't let me bring him over here just kidding never owned a pit bull and have no use for one but seriously they were on the list of banned dog breeds

Edited January 29, 2020 by Fred white
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[Traubert]

6 hours ago, car720 said:

I won't make any friends saying this but for me every one of these dogs in the world along with those that breed them should be shot.

You've made one.

[Fred white]

21 minutes ago, oobar said:

I grew up in a family that bred hunting dogs, mainly bird dogs, my father being an avid quail hunter.  After a couple hundred years of  selective breeding to reinforce an inherent tendency to "point," or lock on rigidly, at the scent of quail (or grouse or pheasant, etc.), it became a behavioral instinct innate to bird dogs.  For many years, my wife and I raised Irish setters, which are now only rarely used as active hunters and are principally bred for beauty (and their endearing craziness), but even after an ancestry of dozens of generations that have never been introduced to a bobwhite, nearly all Irish setters will still point.  Pit Bulls, although not officially even recognized as a breed, were selected for their aggressiveness and fighting abilities, and the most successfully vicious were chosen by breeders to produce a continuing progeny of fighters -- which is how they were bred "to be violent."  Now, however, many are taken as pets, the same as Irish setters, but after innumerable ancestral generations in which they were no longer bred specifically to fight (because it was made illegal), the instincts to attack and maim can remain, although often hidden deeply beneath a benign friendliness and docility common to dogs in general.  However, you can simply never know when, or if, a sudden movement by a child (or anyone else) may trigger a long-dormant instinct to attack -- just like an Irish setter's instinct can suddenly cause it to lock on point.  A pointing dog hurts no one, but the sudden expression of a pit bull's sleeping instinct to attack, as we see often in Thailand, can be tragic.  There is a valid argument for neutering as many of these kinds of dogs as possible, gradually and humanely removing the bloodline from existence. 

We had an English setter growing up she was never trained but I could take her out in a field and if she smelled a quail she would lock up. Pit bulls were originally used to catch pigs

[DLock]

I own a Pit Bull, and 100% agree that if a pitbull shows any aggression to humans it needs to be destroyed...but that is true of any dog. Attacks a human, takes a bullet. 

 

Pit bulls were not bred to attack humans. They were bred for gameness towards other dogs. With handlers in the pit, last thing you want is a dog to turn on the Owner...although any owner that fights any dogs, deserves to be savagely attacked.

 

Many posters are correct. This dog, because of its looks has been bred to be aggressive to humans as some sort of macho status symbol. People buy these dogs, but really can't control them. They are scary dogs, and when they attack, it take a lot of force and risk to separate 2 pitfalls. Their brain just snaps. Letting any pit bull wander is pure stupidity and this dog deserved a bullet...but it has been "taken away" to probably do this again...

 

So, the only way to "cure" the pitbull is to cull dangerous pit bulls. 

 

Edited January 29, 2020 by DLock
dyslexia

[Fred white]

2 hours ago, androokery said:

Bitten five people so far? It needs to be put down at bite #1.

A tea cup terrier reach down pick it up it ain't going to do much damage

[JonnyF]

25 minutes ago, oobar said:

I grew up in a family that bred hunting dogs, mainly bird dogs, my father being an avid quail hunter.  After a couple hundred years of  selective breeding to reinforce an inherent tendency to "point," or lock on rigidly, at the scent of quail (or grouse or pheasant, etc.), it became a behavioral instinct innate to bird dogs.  For many years, my wife and I raised Irish setters, which are now only rarely used as active hunters and are principally bred for beauty (and their endearing craziness), but even after an ancestry of dozens of generations that have never been introduced to a bobwhite, nearly all Irish setters will still point.  Pit Bulls, although not officially even recognized as a breed, were selected for their aggressiveness and fighting abilities, and the most successfully vicious were chosen by breeders to produce a continuing progeny of fighters -- which is how they were bred "to be violent."  Now, however, many are taken as pets, the same as Irish setters, but after innumerable ancestral generations in which they were no longer bred specifically to fight (because it was made illegal), the instincts to attack and maim can remain, although often hidden deeply beneath a benign friendliness and docility common to dogs in general.  However, you can simply never know when, or if, a sudden movement by a child (or anyone else) may trigger a long-dormant instinct to attack -- just like an Irish setter's instinct can suddenly cause it to lock on point.  A pointing dog hurts no one, but the sudden expression of a pit bull's sleeping instinct to attack, as we see often in Thailand, can be tragic.  There is a valid argument for neutering as many of these kinds of dogs as possible, gradually and humanely removing the bloodline from existence. 

They were bred to fight other dogs while the owner handled them during the fight. Between fights they lived in the family home often with children. Human aggression was never a desirable trait for Pitbulls nor was it bred into them, quite the opposite in fact (unlike the breeds bred to control humans or guard properties).

 

 

[IvorBiggun2]

First person to have a face transplant was a French woman having been savaged by a ............... yes you guessed it, a Labrador.     

 

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Labrador retriever

 

Isabelle Dinoire. Isabelle Dinoire (1967 – 22 April 2016) was a French woman who was the first person to undergo a partial face transplant, after her Labrador retriever cross breed mauled her in May 2005.

 

 

[Orton Rd]

43 minutes ago, oobar said:

Or dogs in a savage fury!

Bitten by one very badly, saved by policeman

[perconrad]

1 hour ago, IvorBiggun2 said:

First person to have a face transplant was a French woman having been savaged by a ............... yes you guessed it, a Labrador.     

 

 

 

1 hour ago, IvorBiggun2 said:

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Labrador retriever

 

Isabelle Dinoire. Isabelle Dinoire (1967 – 22 April 2016) was a French woman who was the first person to undergo a partial face transplant, after her Labrador retriever cross breed mauled her in May 2005.

 

 

Perhaps the Labrador was cross breed with a Pittbull

[spiekerjozef]

6 hours ago, Khunbilly said:

My pit bull is great most of the time. Super friendly and has a great personality. But once in a while she’ll go nuts over a snake or cat. 

it should be killed, no excuse