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Britain must accept EU standards if it wants full market access: Germany's Maas


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13 minutes ago, Loiner said:

What the big dog barks about only matters within its own back yard. Once we are on the other side of the fence (from Saturday), it’s just another poodle yapping. 

 

What we we sell in our domestic market, or to the rest of the world, is not the business of the EU. Doggone it. The UK is free to set its own standards. 

By end 2020 you mean …..

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54 minutes ago, nauseus said:

"Almost every expert we consulted agreed that  a state of mild dehydration could be prevented, and indeed treated, with consuming adequate amounts of water, or or other fluids".

Adequate amounts... 

Other fluids... 

Do you really not see your mistake?

Or are you joking?

It is an irrelevant article, as many other science articles are, because it's common knowledge. 

But it seems that you still don't get it? 

Have to partly agree that it's a bit funny, but also kinda sad. 

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Everybody seems to forget we are already complying with EU standards. We have been trading with them for years. What is the problem are we suddenly going to alter everything just because we have left? Canada took years to negotiate because they had to bring themselves up to the standards of the EU Britain does not have to negotiate as much as we already have the standards in place. What leaving will mean is that when we trade with other countries we will have to negotiate the rules that both countries will accept. Do we accept chlorinated chicken, for example, if not then we don't accept. That is what trade negotiation is all about not that we must accept everything that a country wishes to throw at us. Just because you buy one thing does not mean you must buy everything it doesn't happen when you go into a shop and it doesn't happen when nations trade.

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1 hour ago, Boatfreak said:

What they refer to as EU standards are actually ISO standards, which stands for INTERNATIONAL Standard Organisation. These standards are written an approved by countries all over the world, how many depends on the number of countries which are participating members in the specific technical committee. For example TC188 for small craft comprise of 23 countries out of which 7 are EU members which means a majority of 16 countries are NOT EU members. Once an ISO standard is accepted by all participating countries it passes again trough a voting process in all the countries separately. When the vote is positive the standard is accepted as a national standard e.g DIN for Germany, AINSI for the US, AS for Australia, BS for the UK etc. Likewise the EU review (again) the process for acceptance of the standard and once accepted the Standard is published in the European Gazette, we call this process harmonisation and the ISO standard can now be called EN Standard. The UK, same as other participating countries can stop or ratify a standard at ISO level at BS level and at EN level (not anymore) , they

had full power to control. Now let's take a case of a big UK yacht manufacturer such as Princess who build their yachts according to ISO standards. At the time being to ISO standards, EN standards and BS standards as these 3 documents are 100% identical. The yachts are CE certified according EN standards and can freely be sold throughout the EU by having the boat certified once. The UK will remain member of ISO and will continue to vote on ISO standards. They can, but already could before, change parts of the ISO standard before acceptance as BS standard. This would mean that the yacht builder now has to build two different kinds of boats, one for Europe and the rest of the world and one for the UK. He will now also need a certificate for the EU and a certificate for the UK and will have to pay for both But the UK will now "take back control," which they always had. Great progress. 

 

jeez double xrist

 

go back to school - try to get the gist of European Standardisation

and try to understand what a harmonised standard is

 

then come back and write smth sensible

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35 minutes ago, Dionigi said:

Everybody seems to forget we are already complying with EU standards. We have been trading with them for years. What is the problem are we suddenly going to alter everything just because we have left? Canada took years to negotiate because they had to bring themselves up to the standards of the EU Britain does not have to negotiate as much as we already have the standards in place. What leaving will mean is that when we trade with other countries we will have to negotiate the rules that both countries will accept. Do we accept chlorinated chicken, for example, if not then we don't accept. That is what trade negotiation is all about not that we must accept everything that a country wishes to throw at us. Just because you buy one thing does not mean you must buy everything it doesn't happen when you go into a shop and it doesn't happen when nations trade.

 

that is the covet message from the UK government, no support for not altering

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I ran an engineering company for many years in the UK and later as an EU consultant. Most EU standards are based on or similar to British Standard. On the other hand many American standards, electrical, engineering, environmental did not meet British or EU standards. For that reason I was building containerised water treatment for a major US Company at my factory in the UK because their electrical standards were substandard especially from a safety aspect. Some of this was due to the fact that their mains voltage is 110V and EU between 220V to 240V.

 

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13 hours ago, JonnyF said:

If they were so powerful they wouldn't be trying to handicap us with their ridiculous rules.

 

They are terrified of what we can achieve without their ball and chain on our ankles.

 

They look increasingly desperate. Their protectionist racket is like a house of cards.

Er, I think youll find that you cant import anything into Britain without the goods complying with British rules. 

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8 hours ago, Aleco said:

Also.. 

Thinking that leaving the single market and the EU customs union will hurt EU more than Britain is pure BS. 

After announcing that Britain will leave the single market, the pound pummelled and got weaker. 

Leaving the single market will rid you of EU rules and restrictions, but increase the costs of trade in almost all other aspects. 

No more free trade with EU.

Customs check Everytime you trade with EU (which Britain will continue to do). 

Even Britain's leaked government reports says that leaving the single market will damage the UK's economic growth for the next 15 years.

Let me know if you are not able to find articles yourselves and I will be happy to help you. 

Doesn't it take two to Tango though, everything you mention is true, however, the EU does export a huge amount to the UK, possibly a lot more than the reverse.

If UK was to impose import taxes on EU products under WTO standards, then it would have a big impact on the trade, that is certain, a tit for tat trade war makes no sense for both parties.

The customs implications again work both ways.

For sure the UK is in for a rough time initially, will it survive and emerge stronger, you can put money on that.

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