Popular Post MRTELLYOUSTRAIGHT Posted January 30, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 30, 2020 If things ever get me down I shall think of Nigel and his wonderful laugh and how he beat the pompous, arrogant yet extraordinarily dim witted remainers and how they will never get over it. That will hands down be better than any medicine a doctor could prescribe me. Cheers Nigel I will be having a few beers for you tomorrow! 5 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rookiescot Posted January 30, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 30, 2020 4 hours ago, evadgib said: It's taken UK four years and we ain't there yet. Do you seriously think Scotland will be a shoe in? Yes. 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rookiescot Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 4 hours ago, vogie said: Get ready for a load of love bombing from the EU to Scotland telling it that the door is open to us to return as soon as we can. I doubt that very much as you don't meet their very strict criteria and do you think they would want to upset a trading nation like the UK. Tis but a dream you have. Oh wow. You honestly think the EU gives a rats buttocks about upsetting little Engurlund? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post vogie Posted January 30, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 30, 2020 Just now, Rookiescot said: Oh wow. You honestly think the EU gives a rats buttocks about upsetting little Engurlund? If they have any sense, I would say yes. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rookiescot Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 5 minutes ago, vogie said: If they have any sense, I would say yes. I think you vastly overestimate the position Engurlund is going to find itself in. Trade deals being struck from a position of weakness. What little manufacturing we have left being relocated overseas. The City of London conducting more and more of its European business from Frankfurt and Paris. And you think that you will be able to impose punitive punishments on the EU if you feel somewhat slighted? Get a grip Vogie mate. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post vogie Posted January 30, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 30, 2020 12 minutes ago, Rookiescot said: I think you vastly overestimate the position Engurlund is going to find itself in. Trade deals being struck from a position of weakness. What little manufacturing we have left being relocated overseas. The City of London conducting more and more of its European business from Frankfurt and Paris. And you think that you will be able to impose punitive punishments on the EU if you feel somewhat slighted? Get a grip Vogie mate. I totally understand your frustration at the way things are going at the moment, but constantly berating the English is not the solution to your delemma, all it does is endorce the reasons why the SNP wish to abandon our Union. The UK will do just fine, but let us not forget the economy was not the reason for leaving the EU, it was much more sinister than that and it is all fine calling Brexiteers hypocrites, but calling them democrats would be more fitting. We have had 3 or 4 years now of name calling, our only crime was winning a democratic referendum. Taking stick from remainers is bad enough but add the fact that the remainer is a SNP supporter doubles the barrage of attack. Most of the sour grapes posts are said through dissappointment rather than fact, it is time to start uniting and not constantly being in the dumps. Do not feel bad about the posters who wish to keep our union together, we are just as passionate as you. Peace.???? 4 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rookiescot Posted January 30, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 30, 2020 39 minutes ago, vogie said: I totally understand your frustration at the way things are going at the moment, but constantly berating the English is not the solution to your delemma, all it does is endorce the reasons why the SNP wish to abandon our Union. The UK will do just fine, but let us not forget the economy was not the reason for leaving the EU, it was much more sinister than that and it is all fine calling Brexiteers hypocrites, but calling them democrats would be more fitting. We have had 3 or 4 years now of name calling, our only crime was winning a democratic referendum. Taking stick from remainers is bad enough but add the fact that the remainer is a SNP supporter doubles the barrage of attack. Most of the sour grapes posts are said through dissappointment rather than fact, it is time to start uniting and not constantly being in the dumps. Do not feel bad about the posters who wish to keep our union together, we are just as passionate as you. Peace.???? Vogie I genuinely worry about what is going to happen after Brexit. I honestly 100% believe it is going to be bad for everyone except the rich. I dont want to see my southern neighbours go through such pain. You are right I have a level of frustration over this. I tried very hard to convince people Brexit is a bad idea. But its a done deal now. My last remaining option to avoid the damage that I believe is going to occur is for Scotland to leave the union. I dont want to see anyone in the UK hurt by all this but I will be damned if I am going to allow Scotland to be dragged down too. We are getting in the lifeboat. Move north and join us. You will be welcome. At least in most places. I can let you the areas to avoid ????. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melvinmelvin Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 45 minutes ago, Rookiescot said: Vogie I genuinely worry about what is going to happen after Brexit. I honestly 100% believe it is going to be bad for everyone except the rich. I dont want to see my southern neighbours go through such pain. You are right I have a level of frustration over this. I tried very hard to convince people Brexit is a bad idea. But its a done deal now. My last remaining option to avoid the damage that I believe is going to occur is for Scotland to leave the union. I dont want to see anyone in the UK hurt by all this but I will be damned if I am going to allow Scotland to be dragged down too. We are getting in the lifeboat. Move north and join us. You will be welcome. At least in most places. I can let you the areas to avoid ????. the bad for everyone except the rich you may be right on that - but it is hardly down to Brexit as such, its more down to being a political move carried out by the Cons party beats me that so many foggy island inhabitants put their trust in Tory gangs and think they might do political moves benefittig the average sod maybe the fog blurs the thinking 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vogie Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 3 minutes ago, melvinmelvin said: the bad for everyone except the rich you may be right on that - but it is hardly down to Brexit as such, its more down to being a political move carried out by the Cons party beats me that so many foggy island inhabitants put their trust in Tory gangs and think they might do political moves benefittig the average sod maybe the fog blurs the thinking Who would you put your trust in Melvin? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melvinmelvin Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 4 minutes ago, vogie said: Who would you put your trust in Melvin? right, fair enough, point taken you need to beef up your governance system, greatly reduce number of const. and get rid of fptp -ie create soil for more significant parties and wave the wand sufficiently to make the national assemby sovereign - also in procedural matters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vogie Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, melvinmelvin said: right, fair enough, point taken you need to beef up your governance system, greatly reduce number of const. and get rid of fptp -ie create soil for more significant parties and wave the wand sufficiently to make the national assemby sovereign - also in procedural matters Can we safely assume that with prop rep that the chances of Brexit happening would have been very unlikely. On this occasion fptp did its job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post billd766 Posted January 30, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 30, 2020 4 hours ago, TheDark said: Yeah. This kind of behaviour is stupid. But so was the killing of Jo Cox. I don't remember Nigel Farage being charged with that offense. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melvinmelvin Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 5 minutes ago, vogie said: Can we safely assume that with prop rep that the chances of Brexit happening would have been very unlikely. On this occasion fptp did its job. yes and no, not that sure of that actually what you're doing is projecting the Westminster pub patrons of today onto a prop. rep. system is that a valid projection? chances are that with a well working prop. rep. system you would have a quite different set of pub patrons compared to what you have today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDark Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 19 minutes ago, billd766 said: I don't remember Nigel Farage being charged with that offense. Perhaps he should have? After all it was his speeches, which made a less balanced person to kill another person. Those who hold the power and ability to move people; should really think how their constant hate speeches can cause their followers to react. They should have feeling of responsibility. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack100 Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 Just because they are in charge ....it doesn't mean they know what they are doing ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post nauseus Posted January 30, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 30, 2020 23 hours ago, TheDark said: And this is pretty much all what the evilones produce. What they have been producing all these times. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post nauseus Posted January 30, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 30, 2020 2 hours ago, melvinmelvin said: the bad for everyone except the rich you may be right on that - but it is hardly down to Brexit as such, its more down to being a political move carried out by the Cons party beats me that so many foggy island inhabitants put their trust in Tory gangs and think they might do political moves benefittig the average sod maybe the fog blurs the thinking not so difficult to work out when you consider the alternatives... 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDark Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 4 minutes ago, nauseus said: Indeed. Brexit is the James Bond story on which the villain wins. The next chapter, after this year, ought to be remarkable. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nauseus Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 (edited) 10 hours ago, Baerboxer said: You are correct. One of the great urban myths in the UK is that all bad things are because of "EU law". Few British people seem to have checked the facts regarding the law in member states and how sovereign member law is not overruled by "EU law". Maybe that attitude will change. I've seen many comments now about why the UK, one of the EU's wealthiest nations pays the lowest pensions. It is you who needs to do the fact-checking, Boxer. EU Law has primacy within any EU member state. Edited January 30, 2020 by nauseus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nauseus Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 15 hours ago, baboon said: They did indeed. The most puerile act it had been my misfortune to have to turn my nose up at in a fair while. How utterly pathetic. That flag was not waved in my name. well, you have your own anway 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post billd766 Posted January 30, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 30, 2020 2 hours ago, TheDark said: Perhaps he should have? After all it was his speeches, which made a less balanced person to kill another person. Those who hold the power and ability to move people; should really think how their constant hate speeches can cause their followers to react. They should have feeling of responsibility. Nigel Farage does not hold ANY power in the UK at all and never has done. He walked away from UKIP when they invited Tommy Robinson on board. Nigel Farage to my knowledge has never MADE any hate speeches nor has Boris, Jeremy nor any other politicians that I can think of. If he has then show me where. Perhaps is not good enough for proof. It is the same as saying perhaps I will win the lottery this month, or perhaps I won't. quote "Perhaps he should have? After all it was his speeches, which made a less balanced person to kill another person." Are you 100% certain that it was Nigel Farage's speeches that caused the death of Jo Cox? If you are then please present that information to the police, Jo Cox's family and also to Nigel Farage. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nauseus Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 14 hours ago, baboon said: Forget where one stands on Brexit for a moment. Don't you honestly think it was a tad immature to say the least? Agree...it was quite fitting for that place. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post nauseus Posted January 30, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 30, 2020 13 hours ago, Emdog said: I was impressed by his slipping in to role of ill mannered lout with that stunt of waving flag (along with his crowd) which is against Euro rules in cheap grandstanding "look at me!" episode Oh yes, EU rules, disgraceful. Tusk tusk. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nauseus Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 11 hours ago, Jonnapat said: Probably the best day the EU has ever experienced getting rid of this egotistical idiot. A disgrace to the UK if ever there was. I didn't think Juncker was that bad. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nauseus Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 7 hours ago, TheDark said: Yeah. This kind of behaviour is stupid. But so was the killing of Jo Cox. A poorly chosen and dark comparison. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TheDark Posted January 30, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 30, 2020 1 hour ago, billd766 said: Nigel Farage does not hold ANY power in the UK at all and never has done. He walked away from UKIP when they invited Tommy Robinson on board. Nigel Farage to my knowledge has never MADE any hate speeches nor has Boris, Jeremy nor any other politicians that I can think of. If he has then show me where. Perhaps is not good enough for proof. It is the same as saying perhaps I will win the lottery this month, or perhaps I won't. quote "Perhaps he should have? After all it was his speeches, which made a less balanced person to kill another person." Are you 100% certain that it was Nigel Farage's speeches that caused the death of Jo Cox? If you are then please present that information to the police, Jo Cox's family and also to Nigel Farage. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post melvinmelvin Posted January 30, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 30, 2020 1 hour ago, billd766 said: Nigel Farage does not hold ANY power in the UK at all and never has done. He walked away from UKIP when they invited Tommy Robinson on board. Nigel Farage to my knowledge has never MADE any hate speeches nor has Boris, Jeremy nor any other politicians that I can think of. If he has then show me where. Perhaps is not good enough for proof. It is the same as saying perhaps I will win the lottery this month, or perhaps I won't. quote "Perhaps he should have? After all it was his speeches, which made a less balanced person to kill another person." Are you 100% certain that it was Nigel Farage's speeches that caused the death of Jo Cox? If you are then please present that information to the police, Jo Cox's family and also to Nigel Farage. handbrake on 766, Farage has plenty power - more than many MPs he is constantly on TV constantly in newspapers and I'll guess radio and mags also always being invited to offer views THAT is power 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Laughing Gravy Posted January 30, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 30, 2020 10 hours ago, TheDark said: Which part of "This kind of behaviour is stupid." was too complicated for you to understand? The kind when someone throws a milkshake at someone else. It is stupid on all levels along with trying to justify the death of Joe Cox with it. You should be ashamed of yourself but I doubt shame comes into your mindset or vocabulary. 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Laughing Gravy Posted January 30, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 30, 2020 3 hours ago, billd766 said: Are you 100% certain that it was Nigel Farage's speeches that caused the death of Jo Cox? If you are then please present that information to the police, Jo Cox's family and also to Nigel Farage. Yes exactly. I look forward to seeing that but think we all know we will be waiting forever because it is a load of rollocks. Like the statement the poster stated. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Laughing Gravy Posted January 30, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 30, 2020 5 hours ago, TheDark said: Perhaps he should have? After all it was his speeches, which made a less balanced person to kill another person. Those who hold the power and ability to move people; should really think how their constant hate speeches can cause their followers to react. They should have feeling of responsibility. A little knowledge is very dangerous and you have a little knowledge. Even when the left wing media went into a frenzy and tried to say he said Britain First. which has been rebuked as fake news, he said "put Britain first". Nigel Farage is or never was part of the political movement or BNP, so your false accusation and fake news is embarrassing. Witnesses testified that during the attack, Mair had cried out "This is for Britain", "keep Britain independent", and "Put Britain first" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Jo_Cox 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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