meechai Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 (edited) 43 minutes ago, elephant45 said: Having spent a lot of time cycling all over the world, CM is not attractive to me at all. I once saw the Malaysian team going up the Samoeng Rd and they had guys next to each other like they owned the road and I put the horn on them. How stupid and arrogant. The guy gave me the finger. Back in the states we always rode single file, and the guy in back would come up to the front for a while to block the wind, a continual process. Side by side forget it and I seee farangs in CM doing it. Crazy to me. That doesn't make much sense as you just described a classic paceline In which case they also are basically side by side. As you said the guy in back would come up to the front for a while to block the wind, a continual process Unless your saying the buy in back bunny hopped other riders to get to the front then they were also side by side ???? Edited January 31, 2020 by meechai 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gecko123 Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 (edited) 18 hours ago, suzannegoh said: It's almost as if they have a grudge against anyone who is fit enough to exert themselves physically. Dear Suzannegoh: I am an avid mountain bike rider in rural Thailand and I understand the point you are making. Whenever I go bicycling I am hyper vigilant and carefully consider traffic patterns beforehand to minimize the risk. Unfortunately, however, the above sentence quoted from your post perfectly describes the attitude of about 1% of the drivers on Thai roads as well. A cyclist unaware of the realities of Thailand's roads (and who assumes that normal motorist etiquette towards cyclists can be relied upon) is definitely at greater risk than they realize. The idea that you can safely hop on the saddle anytime anywhere in Thailand, in my opinion, is simply naive. I would not recommend Thailand as a cycling tourism destination, period. Edited January 31, 2020 by Gecko123 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burma Bill Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 Interesting article - no mention of the local police attending. Bad publicity for Thailand and TAT in South Korea??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Swagman Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 19 hours ago, suzannegoh said: Has anyone ever been killed on a motorbike here? Whenever there's a bicycling fatality reported in ThaiVisa all the curmudgeons pop out of the woodwork to condemn the stupidity of anyone who would dare to bicycle in Thailand but strangely they remain silent about the stupidity of riding a motorbike here. It's almost as if they have a grudge against anyone who is fit enough to exert themselves physically. I was killed on a motorbike, but fortunately recovered. Training on these roads in this smog? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozguy0011 Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 It’s well know amongst Thais that a lot of the trucks drivers getting around on the roads are high on drugs or booze. Thailand is land of zero responsibility given in regards to road safety. Its a national disgrace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarFlungFalang Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 20 hours ago, suzannegoh said: Has anyone ever been killed on a motorbike here? Whenever there's a bicycling fatality reported in ThaiVisa all the curmudgeons pop out of the woodwork to condemn the stupidity of anyone who would dare to bicycle in Thailand but strangely they remain silent about the stupidity of riding a motorbike here. It's almost as if they have a grudge against anyone who is fit enough to exert themselves physically. Yes I'm sure the recent POTY died on a motor bike he was later revived,I suggest you read his fascinating story penned by Rooster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VocalNeal Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, elephant45 said: Having spent a lot of time cycling all over the world, CM is not attractive to me at all. I once saw the Malaysian team going up the Samoeng Rd and they had guys next to each other like they owned the road and I put the horn on them. How stupid and arrogant. The guy gave me the finger. Back in the states we always rode single file, and the guy in back would come up to the front for a while to block the wind, a continual process. Side by side forget it and I seee farangs in CM doing it. Crazy to me. Good motorcyclists generally ride two wide but staggered so the outside guys can make it single file if need be. Edited January 31, 2020 by VocalNeal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaipod Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 Same thing happened a couple of years ago. Guy biked all over the world and killed here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Langkawee Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 I thought Koreans were smarter than that, to cycle on the roads of carnage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolgeoff Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 One place a bike without a engine is a no no.i would never get on bike in Thailand unless petrol and engine attached Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gearbox Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 22 hours ago, Gecko123 said: Dear Suzannegoh: I am an avid mountain bike rider in rural Thailand and I understand the point you are making. Whenever I go bicycling I am hyper vigilant and carefully consider traffic patterns beforehand to minimize the risk. Unfortunately, however, the above sentence quoted from your post perfectly describes the attitude of about 1% of the drivers on Thai roads as well. A cyclist unaware of the realities of Thailand's roads (and who assumes that normal motorist etiquette towards cyclists can be relied upon) is definitely at greater risk than they realize. The idea that you can safely hop on the saddle anytime anywhere in Thailand, in my opinion, is simply naive. I would not recommend Thailand as a cycling tourism destination, period. I cycled around 1000km the last December in Southern Thailand and Malaysia. Donsak - Songkhla - Langkawi - Satun - Lanta/Krabi. Wonderful countryside, very friendly people. No road or other dangers whatsoever. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmartyMarty Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 So CNX is famous for stuff other than high pollution. Great work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mok199 Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 Even the once quiet back roads have become dangerous, as thais now use them to avoid the traffic, not uncommon to see tour buses and mini vans speeding using both lanes as they round corners....SAD 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GilesA Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 I agree! I tried it and almost died! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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