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3 hours ago, Liverpudlian said:

Wow ! i find the global paranoia is going way over the top.

Is it - this thing spreads about the same as  flue but has about a 59 TIMES greater mortality rate.... 1 in 30... hmmmm... I prefer to avoid those odds 😞

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Obviously this is global and will get worse but one thing that seems glaringly obvious is the complete lack of any report on the survivers, i.e. those that have had it and recovered.  12,000 cases so far but it has been a month already and barely a whisper about the recovery rate.

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Got a fever?  Cash payment up front at hospital entrance. Aliens must prove medical fees prior to service. 

As it should be, for aliens.

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4 hours ago, KeeTua said:

And there were probably people like you in China that claimed a few health care professionals were being too paranoid when they first began drawing attention to the virus.

 

We need to hope for the best but plan for the worst.

In 1918 Spanish flu killed an estimated 50 million, and infected 500 million, the reason for paranoia

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4 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

I hear that doctors and staff treating the patients in China, do not even have access to decent quality masks, as the Chicoms were caught completely off guard, and masks have sold out worldwide, due to panic. The medical people in China are very scared. With the number of wet markets in China, they had to know it was only a matter of time before another outbreak like Sars. Why the complete lack of preparation? What were they thinking? Were they thinking? They have known about this since December 31st, when the first doctor went public, and was then humiliated, arrested, and forced to sign a ridiculous confession. The Chicoms are a completely ridiculous bunch of money and power hungry men.

 

Dr. Jiang, the military doctor who became a whistle-blower in 2003, has been put under periodic house arrest and forbidden to visit the United States to collect a human rights award. He is also portrayed as a bad role model. A multiple-choice question posed by a test-prep school in 2017 asked about Dr. Jiang’s decision. The correct answer was B: It was wrong because it harmed the interests of the nation, the society and the community and should be subject to legal punishment.

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/22/health/virus-corona.html

 

China’s highest court has praised eight whistleblower doctors who were arrested by Wuhan police in early January and forced to ­confess to spreading false rumours after they tried to alert the public to the unfolding coronavirus outbreak. The eight, all believed to be medical professionals, were ­arrested on January 1 and accused of “fabricating, disseminating and spreading rumours” over online posts in late December warning of a “SARS-like” coronavirus.

 

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/world/praise-for-chinese-doctors-who-coronavirus-blew-whistle/news-story/eb47484900dbd409099e20784a9dda96

 

 

 

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I lived in China for 4 years, ten years ago. The hospitals even in Shanghai are terrible, the doctors are poorly educated and the end result is always a bag full of "medicine". Thailand is a little better but still get the bagful of medication regardless.

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1 hour ago, car720 said:

barely a whisper about the recovery rate.

People recovering isn't sexy enough for click bait.

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4 hours ago, SteveK said:

Of course they don't! But it helps put the mass hysteria into perspective, when nobody is reporting on the far higher number of people who have died on Thai roads since this pandemic started.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/01/world/asia/china-coronavirus.html?action=click&module=Top Stories&pgtype=Homepage

 

You should read this and then after take a look at this:

 

https://bnonews.com/index.php/2020/01/the-latest-coronavirus-cases/

 

After that you should read this new forecast study showing whats likely to happen: https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)30260-9/fulltext

 

Gives you an idea of the strain on the health care systems in all affected countries, if this keeps on.

 

 

 

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27 minutes ago, khunpa said:

Just give this some time and your next comparison will be about the plague. 

 

Clearly your absurd reference to "the plague" indicates that you did not understand that my meagre figures were meant to support those who believe there is too much paranoia in the presentation of this infection.

Your Lancet reference seems also to support those who have confidence that, with all appropriate measures taken, the epidemic can be contained.

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22 hours ago, neeray said:

As said on various other threads, "one has nothing to do with the other".

Virus deaths are in addition to all other deaths.

22 hours ago, neeray said:

As said on various other threads, "one has nothing to do with the other".

Virus deaths are in addition to all other deaths.

Extension of 'it's ok when it's someone elses mother that dies'.

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23 hours ago, Gweiloman said:

I almost posted a few days ago that Thailand’s perceived lack of action was another devious way of trying to force some expats out. Not the old timers,

 

You should have controlled your urge to post and refrained from doing so.

 

If you don't understand what most TV posters usually complain about you probably haven't been living here long enough, or haven't been screwed around with your visa... at national parks, for creative billing in hospitals ...etc... so rather than poke cynicism at those of us whose heads aren't in the clouds anymore live and learn and refrain from posting rubbish that puts down your fellow farang.

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20 hours ago, chingmai331 said:

Got a fever?  Cash payment up front at hospital entrance. Aliens must prove medical fees prior to service. 

As it should be, for aliens.

I would hate to be the poor soul who collects and touches such cash. They should wear a hazmat suit. 

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23 hours ago, zydeco said:

Yes, Thailand, it appears, is the exit route. Hordes of people fleeing the virus will be passing through Bangkok.

 

       TAT ,   will include them in the visitors numbers to Thailand increase ..

 

 

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