Breaking with Republicans, Romney votes 'guilty' in Trump impeachment trial

[JHolmesJr]

Romney...what a Mormon!

 

Watch Utah boot him after this!

 

Get ready for the speech circuit Mitt.

Edited February 6, 2020 by JHolmesJr

[earlinclaifornia]

8 hours ago, Cryingdick said:

Mitt Romney is the weird estranged member of the Adam's family. 

I figured YOU would be one that INSULTS another Republican. Shame on you!

[Jingthing]

1 minute ago, JHolmesJr said:

Romney...what a Mormon!

 

Watch Utah boot him after this!

 

Get ready for the speech circuit Mitt.

He began a six year term in 2019. 

We don't know what new dirt is going to come  out about 45 next week. 

It actually wasn't that big a political risk for Mitt to do the right thing.

[Saint Nick]

1 hour ago, nervona81732 said:

Do any of you Trump Haters know the History of this clown LDS Romney?Maybe you wouldn't be bashing Trump if you did. But I doubt you have the balls to investigate. Pound salt Trump haters. You are really a sorry lot. MAGA. ????

 

Did you ever take a look at Trumps history?

[Eric Loh]

37 minutes ago, sirineou said:

Unfortunately not in the Senate. By being politically tone deaf IMO the republicans just signed the death warrant of their majority in the senate. Nancy  Pelosi played them like fiddle, the intent was never to remove trump, she knew she did not have the votes, the intent was to give the so called republicans the rope to hang themselves with. and all except Romney rook it hook ,line and sinker 

    Romney has positioned himself as the only available alternative, as trump's political fortunes implode.  

Spot on. Acquittal was a foregone conclusion in the Reps majority congress. Pelosi forced the open vote and exposed the Rep senators dirty deeds. The Dems now have a talking point and the Reps will be answerable to their voters. Brilliant. 

[earlinclaifornia]

24 minutes ago, JHolmesJr said:

Romney...what a Mormon!

 

Watch Utah boot him after this!

 

Get ready for the speech circuit Mitt.

You do know that trump is not well liked in Utah a RED state. That part about " I can grab them by thier pussies" 

[Jingthing]

2 minutes ago, earlinclaifornia said:

You do know that trump is not well liked in Utah a RED state. That part about " I can grab them by thier pussies" 

Yes, that's true, but it still took balls for him to convict. He's now target number one of the bully president with the twitter bully pulpit and he's likely to be the target of rudeness from his senate colleagues in the 45 cult of personality club. 

[Jingthing]

As far as Romney running for president again, I guess it's possible but I think unlikely. Why?

 

He already ran and lost when his party was more normal. Parties tend not to give losers a second chance at that level.

 

45 will eventually go one way or another, but the remnants of his toxic cult of personality movement won't just instantly vanish into thin air. There will be imitators after him. Given 45 now has about 95 percent support of this current very sick version of the republican party, it's hard to imagine a very quick swing back to relative normality.

 

I don't think Mitt necessarily needs the aggravation of running again. 

 

Being a U.S. senator from Utah probably for as long as he is healthy enough and wants it isn't exactly chopped liver (or the Mormon version of that). 

[BobBKK]

8 hours ago, Tug said:

Finally a republican with principals you sir have my respect a courageous stand now there is potus material!

So funny... got turned down for a job under Trump and rages on the sidelines and sees a chance to hit back at the guy who didn't want him. I saw him crawl into the Whitehouse begging for that job, parising Trump then, he didn't get it, and Trump is the Devil Incarnate?  what a farce!  kick him out.

[Jingthing]

There is talk that vindictive republicans might strip him of committee assignments. Yeah they could do that and that would be a price Romney might pay. But again, history is definitely on the side of Romney on this one. He voted to convict because 45 is guilty. 

[Eric Loh]

2 minutes ago, BobBKK said:

So funny... got turned down for a job under Trump and rages on the sidelines and sees a chance to hit back at the guy who didn't want him. I saw him crawl into the Whitehouse begging for that job, parising Trump then, he didn't get it, and Trump is the Devil Incarnate?  what a farce!  kick him out.

According to Roger Stone, Trump had no intention of giving Mitt the SoS job. He just want to see Mitt squirm. As Roger allude “to toy with him”. What kind of animal is Trump with this kind of cruel deed and he lied about Mitt on his knees begging. Really a disgusting and detestable character and worse hold the highest office in the land. 

[Jingthing]

1 minute ago, Eric Loh said:

According to Roger Stone, Trump had no intention of giving Mitt the SoS job. He just want to see Mitt squirm. As Roger allude “to toy with him”. What kind of animal is Trump with this kind of cruel deed and he lied about Mitt on his knees begging. Really a disgusting and detestable character and worse hold the highest office in the land. 

No surprise. We know what 45 is. But in all fairness, Romney should have known as well. There was though the argument earlier in the 45 presidency that more "adult" republicans needed to join him in the white house in order to try to put checks on his more reckless impulses. Some did that and maybe did a little bit of good but are now all gone. 

[JHolmesJr]

9 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

There is talk that vindictive republicans might strip him of committee assignments. Yeah they could do that and that would be a price Romney might pay. But again, history is definitely on the side of Romney on this one. He voted to convict because 45 is guilty. 

you were doing ok till the last sentence. Never underestimate McConnell...pasture, meet Mitt.

[Jingthing]

Just now, JHolmesJr said:

you were doing ok till the last sentence. Never underestimate McConnell...pasture, meet Mitt.

Actions like that won't help republican senators in purple states so I wouldn't be so certain about that. 

[joecoolfrog]

9 hours ago, Crazy Alex said:

Poor Mitt... I sense some crazy jealousy going on here. But really, who cares? He didn't change anything. The justice system has spoken.

 

The bar for impeachment and removal is intentionally high. The partisan impeachment simply didn't meet the height required.

 

Life is good.

The result had zilch to do with justice , just a reaffirmation of the partisan nature of US politics at the current time.

A trial without any witnesses , lol , the framers of the Constitution would not consider that a win.

[Jingthing]

Romney's speech from the 2016 campaign that's worth watching now in the context of what has happened:

 

 

 

[Mavideol]

1 hour ago, Jingthing said:

No. Nobody expected a conviction in the senate.

Anyone that has been paying attention knows that.

However there was the slim hope that there would be enough votes to hear from key witnesses such as Bolton that 45 had previously blocked.

There was also the even slimmer hope that the convict side would win a symbolic majority of votes which wouldn't have removed 45 (as a 2/3 vote is needed for that) but would have been a stronger message. 

But Romney voting to convict was better than nothing. 

am with you on that, I think everybody knew he wouldn't be remove, November 2020 will do that, I was expecting to hear some witnesses like Bolton, Mulveney, etc., but mostly was looking for to see/hear Giuliani the clown.... maybe all hopes not dead yet

[Jingthing]

18 minutes ago, Mavideol said:

am with you on that, I think everybody knew he wouldn't be remove, November 2020 will do that, I was expecting to hear some witnesses like Bolton, Mulveney, etc., but mostly was looking for to see/hear Giuliani the clown.... maybe all hopes not dead yet

He might win in 2020. Horrible but true. 

[howbri]

10 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

He did change something

 

The first time in US history a vote to remove a president has received bipartisan votes.

 

And once again, this impeachment is nothing to do with ‘the justice system’.

 

The witnesses and evidence the GOP Senators refused to hear will be heard.

 

The GOP Senators have now made the bed they must lie in.

 

Roll on November.

Romney was never a Republican OR a conservative. He'll sell his soul to the commie left and then be left in the dust. MAGA!!! Trump in a landslide.

[Mavideol]

4 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

He might win in 2020. Horrible but true. 

 and thanks to you and that thought, I will have nightmares from now on, I will go and visit the Pagoda and will ask for forgiveness 555

[Somewhere In Time]

21 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

He might win in 2020. Horrible but true.

Overly dramatic yet again, Jingthing.

 

SIT

[Jingthing]

2 hours ago, Mavideol said:

 and thanks to you and that thought, I will have nightmares from now on, I will go and visit the Pagoda and will ask for forgiveness 555

If he's reelected or loses and refuses to leave the white house, the nightmares will be real life.

[ExpatOK]

10 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

If he's reelected or loses and refuses to leave the white house, the nightmares will be real life.

Complete B.S.

[ExpatOK]

In 2012 the left viewed Romney as a racist misogynist. Now he's the most noble man ever.

[Thomas J]

Romney is exactly like John McCain a person so blinded by his hatred of Donald Trump he could compromise any principles he might have once had to throw mud at Trump.  It is obvious that Donald asked a "favor" of the Ukranian president for a favor.  That favor was to look into Ukranian corruption.  So Romney prefers that the USA continue to provide aid to a country known to be corrupt without pressing them to look into misdeed.  And of course the most famous misdeed was Joe Biden who clearly had a quid pro quo when he told the Ukranian Government they had until he left Ukraine to fire the Ukranian prosecutor looking into the company his son was on the board of ( Barisma) or he would cancel $1 billion in US aid.  Now that is a threat and a clear quid pro quo.  Do you really think Biden could push Ukraine if he did not have the explicit blessing of Barack Obama.  So Romney logic, it is ok not to investigate Biden and surely asking Ukraine to look into it is an impeachable offense. 

 

 

[Jingthing]

Mitt Romney gives us a faint glimmer of hope that the nation can somehow someday emerge from this horrific darkness of an authoritarian president now completely above the law due to a complicit senate.

 

Quote

 

Mitt Romney’s act of bravery changed nothing and changed everything

 

 

Every once in a long while a single act of conscience can repair the nation’s soul.

In the dark days of Joe McCarthy’s terror, Sen. Margaret Chase Smith of Maine spoke out against her fellow Republican when nobody else would.

During Watergate, Sen. Howard Baker of Tennessee uttered the immortal words — of a president from his own party — “What did the president know and when did he know it?”

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/02/05/mitt-romneys-stand-ages/?itid=hp_no-name_opinion-card-g%3Ahomepage%2Fstory-ans

[wasabi]

God and Mitt's family (who he claims guided his decision to impeach) have nothing to do with the fact no crime was committed. Bad taste, sleazy? Perhaps but that is not grounds for impeachment. Trump has empowered the nation to increase their wealth. The ability to use my skills and wits to build wealth is the only freedom I have ever known and will be voting for him again. Democrats have only hysteria and drama. Not solutions for working Americans.

Edited February 6, 2020 by wasabi

[Jingthing]

26 minutes ago, wasabi said:

God and Mitt's family (who he claims guided his decision to impeach) have nothing to do with the fact no crime was committed. Bad taste, sleazy? Perhaps but that is not grounds for impeachment. Trump has empowered the nation to increase their wealth. The ability to use my skills and wits to build wealth is the only freedom I have ever known and will be voting for him again. Democrats have only hysteria and drama. Not solutions for working Americans.

Impeachment isn't about literal crimes as in the criminal code. Abuse of power which Romney found 45 guilty of is most certainly an impeachable offense. 

 

Also impeachment isn't about disagreement on policy issues. That is definitely for elections. As Romney said he agrees with 45 80 percent of the time but finding him guilty was not about that.

Edited February 6, 2020 by Jingthing

[metisdead]

An inflammatory post containing offensive Nazi/Goebbels comparisons has been removed. 

[Crazy Alex]

6 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Impeachment isn't about literal crimes as in the criminal code. Abuse of power which Romney found 45 guilty of is most certainly an impeachable offense. 

 

Also impeachment isn't about disagreement on policy issues. That is definitely for elections. As Romney said he agrees with 45 80 percent of the time but finding him guilty was not about that.

"High crimes and misdemeanors". There should at least be some realistic facsimile of a crime. Asking that a crook who bragged about extorting a country to protect his kid from legal jeopardy is pretty far being a crime. It's an obligation. But don't worry. I have a feeling the Biden affairs in Ukraine will have the light of day shined on them. And that's a good thing, yes?