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38 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

Moaning?

We are waiting for Brexiteers to explain how they are going to address the issues they have caused. Somehow you have convinced yourselves telling the truth and asking questions is "talking the UK down".

Brexit is already a disaster. Job loses and costs are mounting. The price we have paid is already higher than all the contributions we have made to the EU while we were a member.

Its just part of the "short term pain". 

Tell me. When will the "short term pain" finish? 

It won't. Once car plants in the UK are faced with the inefficiencies of losing their just-in-time inventory systems, they will look to relocate. you can already see their panic reaction, in reacting to the stoppage of parts from China, due to the virus.

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42 minutes ago, RuamRudy said:

Wait until all those brexit voting pensioners discover that in order to continue to receive one of the lowest pensions in the west, multi-millionaire Patel expects them to go picking turnips. 

Funny u said that,was 17 th in the list,but the majority were all around the UKs figure

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20 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

Right so you are limiting it to having higher growth in europe than France Germany and Italy.

 

In a word. NO.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/aug/30/uk-falls-to-bottom-of-g7-growth-league-in-second-quarter

 

Now of course you will come back with a claim that its the Guardian. Not to be believed. We should get our figures from a reputable source like the Daily Mail. A newspaper which is so bad that even wikipidia refuses to use them.

Gains in the exchange rate come courtesy of a combination of Sterling strength following the release of some solid UK labour market statistics, see here, but the most significant driver appears to be an ongoing bout of weakness in the Euro linked to concerns the outlook for the Eurozone economy has deteriorated owing to China's coronavirus outbreak.

And amidst expectations for the UK economy to improve in the post election period, investors see a widening economic performance gap between the Eurozone and UK which should help the Pound outperform the Euro.

Analysts at Credit Suisse say they are expecting a 10 basis point interest rate cut at the European Central Bank (ECB) in the second quarter of 2020, as a response to the chronic economic underperformance in the Eurozone.

"Both direct (falling exports to Asia), and indirect (production affected by disrupted supply chains) effects will likely lead to a material fall in manufacturing surveys, such as the PMIs, in the months ahead, possibly of around 4-5 points. That’ll be especially true for Germany, which is highly exposed to both," says Neville Hill, Managing Director and Chief Economist Europe for the Investment Strategy and Research department at Credit Suisse in London.

 Fatherland Kaput

 

 

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5 hours ago, paddypower said:

It won't. Once car plants in the UK are faced with the inefficiencies of losing their just-in-time inventory systems, they will look to relocate. you can already see their panic reaction, in reacting to the stoppage of parts from China, due to the virus.

Never been a better time to go Dutch.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/companies-go-dutch-to-avoid-fallout-from-brexit-jj83qgjmh

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2 hours ago, candide said:

 

Unemployment rates and inactivity rates for EU nationals are lower  than for UK nationals, and they represent less than 5% of population. So there is no way that "half of them" could be EU nationals.

https://www.ons.gov.uk/employmentandlabourmarket/peopleinwork/employmentandemployeetypes/articles/ukandnonukpeopleinthelabourmarket/november2019

Counting benefits,working tax credits,child,housing they are all at,...until end of year    bye 'bye spongers

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45 minutes ago, izod10 said:

Counting benefits,working tax credits,child,housing they are all at,...until end of year    bye 'bye spongers

Most benefits are paid to people who are already working but just in very low paid jobs.

Do you really think they are spongers?

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A quote from Daniel Hannan.

 

"The Barnier line is basically "We are angry about Brexit, so you must have worse terms than anyone else, even if that hurts us as much as you". Fine, whatever. But how extraordinary that some Brits are now so bitter and warped that they are applauding him."

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2 hours ago, Laughing Gravy said:

Some countries pay a lot more and others relatively nothing and have done for a long time. So as usual your statements are a load of rollocks.

 

https://www.statista.com/statistics/316691/european-union-eu-budget-share-of-contributions/

 

We are leaving the protectionist racquet called the EU. I suggest you deal with it or go and live in one of those countries you try so tediously to defend.  As a Brit Basher and Anglophile you would fit in easily.

Sorry LG this is not a grammar issue, but an issue of meaning.

Being an Anglophile means that you love England/the English.

You can't do that and be a Brit basher at the same time.

5 hours ago, StreetCowboy said:

Those are all intangible benefits that are worth nothing in comparison to taking back control.  We can stick two fingers up to the EU, and go our own way, unless we want to trade with them.

Oh dear, the "Taking back control" nonsense you were fed certainly hit its mark. Were you scared when they told you that someone/thing else was controlling you, that's exactly what they wanted you to feel.

 

Bedtime reading -  lovely heading - Brexit has stuffed us say uk sausage chiefs.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/brexit-has-stuffed-us-say-uk-sausage-chiefs-p9w937qmh?fbclid=IwAR0NyNylSUn-87bdQ5yHUWX675Vv8jKIxvRRq5-iO2-rSFatvtei9clQxQ4

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2 hours ago, Laughing Gravy said:

Some countries pay a lot more and others relatively nothing and have done for a long time. So as usual your statements are a load of rollocks.

 

https://www.statista.com/statistics/316691/european-union-eu-budget-share-of-contributions/

 

We are leaving the protectionist racquet called the EU. I suggest you deal with it or go and live in one of those countries you try so tediously to defend.  As a Brit Basher and Anglophile you would fit in easily.

I'm a Brexit basher, not a Brit basher. As you rightly point out I"m an Anglophile who loves Old Blighty, I just hate to see the motherland shoot herself in both feet with the Brexit madness.

God bless Tommy Cooper, Martin Peters, Geoff Hurst, and of course the lovely Vera Lynn.

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46 minutes ago, Nigel Garvie said:

Sorry LG this is not a grammar issue, but an issue of meaning.

Being an Anglophile means that you love England/the English.

You can't do that and be a Brit basher at the same time.

 

 

might be that laughing glavy is a woman,

women are known to be able to do multitasking . . . .

 

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3 hours ago, Laughing Gravy said:

Some countries pay a lot more and others relatively nothing and have done for a long time. So as usual your statements are a load of rollocks.

 

https://www.statista.com/statistics/316691/european-union-eu-budget-share-of-contributions/

 

We are leaving the protectionist racquet called the EU. I suggest you deal with it or go and live in one of those countries you try so tediously to defend.  As a Brit Basher and Anglophile you would fit in easily.

I'm sorry LG, I didn't realise that the EU was involved in protectionist racquets. Do such racquets offer the tennis or squash player protection from hard hitting balls from the opponent?

 

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11 hours ago, CG1 Blue said:

We already exposed the 'cost of Brexit' versus EU contributions as a fallacy earlier in this thread.  Let's not go over old ground. 

 

- And as for jobs, as others have pointed out UK employment is at a record high. 

- Also job vacancies returned to growth for the first time in 11 months, rising by 7,000 to 810,000 for the quarter to January 2020.

- Also announced this week: Average weekly wages in the UK have reached their highest levels since before the financial crisis. Weekly pay reached £512 in the three months to December, which - adjusting for inflation - is the highest since March 2008.

 

Finally, this story went a bit under the radar this week: 

- US company Blackhall Studios and the University of Reading want to build the new £150m studios at Thames Valley Science Park.

Plans to develop the "largest purpose-built film studio" in the UK have been put forward in Reading. Blackhall said the move would "bring major Hollywood film productions to the UK" and create up to 3,000 jobs.

Ryan Millsap, chairman of Blackhall said the plans were made after the company's US-based clients Disney, Universal and Sony were "all asking us to expand into the UK to meet their desire to create productions here".

"We hope that the site at Thames Valley Science Park will be the start of a series of investments in the UK which will see investment in jobs, training and the creative arts across a range of disciplines," he added.

 

Sorry to burst your bubble of doom and gloom. 

 

 

Did we resolve the issue of the cost of Brexit?

Oh only if you believe Johnson and ignore experts.

 

If unemployment is so low why did Patel say there are 8 million economically inactive people in the UK? Explain who these people are.

Wages are back where they were 12 years ago? Thats a damned disgrace never mind a cause for celebration. 12 years of austerity caused by the Conservatives. Suppose someone had to pay for the rich screwing up but it wasn't going to be the rich was it?

 

So someone is planning to build a film studio in London. As it stands they will currently be asking how much government grants are we going to get if we build it here rather than say Paris. Even if it does get built its just another benefit to London and the southeast. Does nothing for the rest of the UK.

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4 hours ago, Laughing Gravy said:

Some countries pay a lot more and others relatively nothing and have done for a long time. So as usual your statements are a load of rollocks.

 

https://www.statista.com/statistics/316691/european-union-eu-budget-share-of-contributions/

 

We are leaving the protectionist racquet called the EU. I suggest you deal with it or go and live in one of those countries you try so tediously to defend.  As a Brit Basher and Anglophile you would fit in easily.

Think some of the pages in your copy of Brexit for dummies are stuck together.

A Brit basher AND an anglophile? 

????

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