Coronavirus in Thailand: Yet more fake news prompts question: Is "viral nonsense" more damaging than the disease itself?

[webfact]

Coronavirus in Thailand: Yet more fake news prompts question: Is "viral nonsense" more damaging than the disease itself?

 

 

Yet another fake news post has been made about the coronavirus in Thailand. 

 

The news comes just days after influential UK media suggested that "viral" rumors spreading on the internet are more damaging than the virus itself.

 

In Thailand a poster said online that three guides from Phuket were being treated in a Chiang Mai hospital after contacting the deadly virus. 

 

They said it was important as the news was being "suppressed" and people needed to protect themselves. 

 

The Thai Anti-Fake News Center investigated and found the post to be utter rubbish. And there was no suppression of news.

 

An arrest was made in Pattaya last week after someone posted damaging nonsense there. 

 

The Thais are urging the public to call 1422 on a 24 hours a day hotline if they want the latest. 

 

The Guardian in the UK suggested at the weekend that claims that the virus was connected to snakes and was "snake flu" showed that fake news surrounding the outbreak was causing more trouble than the virus itself. 

 

Source: 77kaoded

 

 

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[RotBenz8888]

Yes, fake news do appear here and there in Thailand.....

[monkfish]

It's not really news it's just a tweet by a private person they are just looking for reasons to censor the internet.

[DrTuner]

It is, especially when it's communist Xinhua spreading it: https://www.thaienquirer.com/7301/thai-media-is-outsourcing-much-of-its-coronavirus-coverage-to-beijing-and-thats-just-the-start/

Edited February 11, 2020 by DrTuner

[DrTuner]

1 minute ago, WaveHunter said:

 

• 97% of all antibiotics worldwide come from China.

Time for the world to wake up and stop depending on China for it's cheap labor. Repatriate the industries, offer zero tax to come back home. The perils of trading with China are clear and present.

[WaveHunter]

12 minutes ago, DrTuner said:

Time for the world to wake up and stop depending on China for it's cheap labor. Repatriate the industries, offer zero tax to come back home. The perils of trading with China are clear and present.

I don't like talking American politics (i.e.: the current Democrat vs Republican fiasco over Trump), so please don't go off topic and chime in with personal views about that!)  All I will say, as an American citizen is "Thank God" we finally have an administration that's taking a real hard line on trade with China and trying to repatriate manufacturing back to the USA.  You can feel one way or the other about Donald Trump as a person, but as a President, he's doing what needs to be done, and doing it very well.

 

Please don't hijack this thread and turn it into a political debate about Trump!

Edited February 11, 2020 by WaveHunter

[GeorgeCross]

16 minutes ago, DrTuner said:

Time for the world to wake up and stop depending on China for it's cheap labor. Repatriate the industries, offer zero tax to come back home. The perils of trading with China are clear and present.

 

karma is a b itch

 

 

Edited February 11, 2020 by GeorgeCross

[Ventenio]

1 hour ago, webfact said:

Is "viral nonsense" more damaging than the disease itself?

Number of DEAD due to "viral nonsense"?  
 

ZERO.

 

I would say the answer is NO.  

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[NCC1701A]

2 hours ago, webfact said:

The Guardian in the UK suggested at the weekend that claims that the virus was connected to snakes and was "snake flu" showed that fake news surrounding the outbreak was causing more trouble than the virus itself. 

 

snakes are fake news. Bats, not so much.

 

"The cave, whose exact location is being kept secret, is inhabited by wild bats that have been found to carry a  “rich gene pool of SARS-related coronaviruses,” said Peter Daszak, the president of EcoHealth Alliance, a U.S. nonprofit organization that monitors wildlife diseases that could pose a pandemic risk."

 

https://nationalpost.com/news/world/cave-full-of-bats-in-china-identified-as-source-of-virus-almost-identical-to-the-one-killing-hundreds-today?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

[smedly]

fake news wouldn't happen if Thailand actually released open and accurate real news

 

 

Still just 32 infections and over 600 under investigation - unchanged for how long 

[saakura]

3 minutes ago, smedly said:

fake news wouldn't happen if Thailand actually released open and accurate real news

 

 

Still just 32 infections and over 600 under investigation - unchanged for how long 

And "accurate, real news" will be the numbers decided upon by TVF members. And then the Baht will crash, 90 to the pound. 

[justin case]

hahaha, fake new from government: everything is under control

[rtco]

Thailand is just one big fake so nothing new ... moving on!

[anterian]

Often it is not so much fake news as that people do not understand the difference between speculation and fact. 

[Krataiboy]

The Guardian in the UK suggested at the weekend that claims that the virus was connected to snakes and was "snake flu" showed that fake news surrounding the outbreak was causing more trouble than the virus itself. 

 

They should know. Remember this?

 

 

[GeorgeCross]

today's guardian again:

 

Quote

Prof Gabriel Leung, the chair of public health medicine at Hong Kong University, said the overriding question was to figure out the size and shape of the iceberg. Most experts thought that each person infected would go on to transmit the virus to about 2.5 other people. That gave an “attack rate” of 60-80%.

 

“Sixty per cent of the world’s population is an awfully big number,” Leung told the Guardian in London, en route to an expert meeting at the WHO in Geneva.

Even if the general fatality rate is as low as 1%, which Leung thinks is possible once milder cases are taken into account, the death toll would be massive.

 

yeah he just stated that health experts are actually considering a death toll of 48 Million people.

 

but yeah fake news thats scary

 

just the flu bro no worries.

 

src: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/11/coronavirus-expert-warns-infection-could-reach-60-of-worlds-population

 

[WaveHunter]

1 hour ago, anterian said:

Often it is not so much fake news as that people do not understand the difference between speculation and fact. 

Fake news unlike basic speculation usually has an agenda behind it, and often it's a very disgusting one. 

 

With mass media and social media, financial gain in one way or another is usually the cause, and certainly is in regard to this outbreak...whatever will increase market-share and thus advertising revenue, however unfounded or sensationalistic it may be. 

 

In the case of government "fake news" (i.e.: China's CCP), it is propaganda, pure and simple.  Just watch anything appearing on state-controlled media; almost zero coverage of what's actually going on there right now, and zero-access to outside media and even international health organizations (i.e.: ignoring the US Center for Disease Control (CDC) repeated offers to come and assist), not to mention ramped up censorship of social media such as WeChat, and even arrests of doctors and journalists who try to speak out on the truth.

 

Why?  Because they don't want the rest of the world to know how badly they have handled this until they can somehow get a handle on things, which, so far, they have not been able to do. 

 

All you see are stories that glorify the Central Government's gallant efforts of building new hospitals in record-breaking time with "happy-face" citizens cheering them on, and anything else they can use to hide how poorly they handled this whole fiasco from the start, and more importantly, what is really happening to citizens on the street with regard to their "containment efforts".  

 

This is "fake news" at its' absolute worst!

 

This all is a template that gets repeated over and over again with one health crisis after another by China's ruling Party, the CCP.  It happened with Ebola, with SARS, and now it is happening again with n-CoV. 

 

It's just endemic in the CCP's paternal and hierarchical form of government, and actually far worse than it was during the Mao Regime in many ways!  Until that Party is no more, these crises will continue to happen to China, and to the world community as well.

Edited February 11, 2020 by WaveHunter

[sammieuk1]

How can one tell what is fake news here when we are told what must be the only country in the world to have the virus 100% under control when its absolutely not????

[WaveHunter]

1 minute ago, sammieuk1 said:

How can one tell what is fake news here when we are told what must be the only country in the world to have the virus 100% under control when its absolutely not????

I think you just answered your own question ????

 

[Traubert]

1 hour ago, WaveHunter said:

Fake news unlike basic speculation usually has an agenda behind it, and often it's a very disgusting one. 

 

With mass media and social media, financial gain in one way or another is usually the cause, and certainly is in regard to this outbreak...whatever will increase market-share and thus advertising revenue, however unfounded or sensationalistic it may be. 

 

In the case of government "fake news" (i.e.: China's CCP), it is propaganda, pure and simple.  Just watch anything appearing on state-controlled media; almost zero coverage of what's actually going on there right now, and zero-access to outside media and even international health organizations (i.e.: ignoring the US Center for Disease Control (CDC) repeated offers to come and assist), not to mention ramped up censorship of social media such as WeChat, and even arrests of doctors and journalists who try to speak out on the truth.

 

Why?  Because they don't want the rest of the world to know how badly they have handled this until they can somehow get a handle on things, which, so far, they have not been able to do. 

 

All you see are stories that glorify the Central Government's gallant efforts of building new hospitals in record-breaking time with "happy-face" citizens cheering them on, and anything else they can use to hide how poorly they handled this whole fiasco from the start, and more importantly, what is really happening to citizens on the street with regard to their "containment efforts".  

 

This is "fake news" at its' absolute worst!

 

This all is a template that gets repeated over and over again with one health crisis after another by China's ruling Party, the CCP.  It happened with Ebola, with SARS, and now it is happening again with n-CoV. 

 

It's just endemic in the CCP's paternal and hierarchical form of government, and actually far worse than it was during the Mao Regime in many ways!  Until that Party is no more, these crises will continue to happen to China, and to the world community as well.

If you dont mind changing the channel there's 24 hour coverage on Chinese TV.

 

Next.

[zydeco]

44 minutes ago, Traubert said:

If you dont mind changing the channel there's 24 hour coverage on Chinese TV.

 

Next.

What time does your show come on CCTV?

[DrTuner]

45 minutes ago, Traubert said:

If you dont mind changing the channel there's 24 hour coverage on Chinese TV.

That's not necessary, you can get the Xinhua content from the Thai media.

https://www.thaienquirer.com/7301/thai-media-is-outsourcing-much-of-its-coronavirus-coverage-to-beijing-and-thats-just-the-start/

[WaveHunter]

1 hour ago, DrTuner said:

That's not necessary, you can get the Xinhua content from the Thai media.

https://www.thaienquirer.com/7301/thai-media-is-outsourcing-much-of-its-coronavirus-coverage-to-beijing-and-thats-just-the-start/

Excellent article; right on the money! 

 

"The recent dominance of Chinese media in Thailand is the confluence of two structural dynamics: Thailand’s declining news industry, and China’s growing soft power offensive." 

 

How well put; you could say that about a lot more places besides Thailand.

 

Thanks for posting the link.

Edited February 11, 2020 by WaveHunter

[Isaan sailor]

You can’t trust communist China with Wuhan virus numbers.  That said, how can you trust a government Hell bent on filling hotel rooms with Chinese tourists?

[Expat Brad]

On 2/11/2020 at 10:41 AM, monkfish said:

It's not really news it's just a tweet by a private person they are just looking for reasons to censor the internet.

They are censoring it already. I have had to either delete some posts after getting some weird stuff from FB, or simply cannot post others!!!

Edited February 12, 2020 by Expat Brad

[yokat]

When people are constantly fed official fake information and told to accept it how are they supposed to know the difference ?

[canuckamuck]

Fake is news is allowed when it comes from approved sources.

[DrTuner]

Just now, canuckamuck said:

Fake is news is allowed when it comes from approved sources.

The main source being Xinhua: https://www.thaienquirer.com/7301/thai-media-is-outsourcing-much-of-its-coronavirus-coverage-to-beijing-and-thats-just-the-start/

[tomauasia]

Thai government have shown contempt for its citizens..Banned they should have been..The only fake is the tin pot government