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3 minutes ago, DrTuner said:

The cooking is a plus but they are unstable nutters. Fun in the sack but exhausting otherwise. Been there, done that, somehow survived.

The Italian girls were OK, it was the Scicilian girls who were crazy. One of my High School girlfriends had to sneak out of her house, not becasue she wasnt allowed to date, but because they never opened the front door elst they would have been deemed to accept the grand jury subpoenaes plastered on their. her daddy was a made Gambino under the Chin. I was a bit crazy myself I guess.

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20 minutes ago, Farangwithaplan said:

The nation needs you. You are a selfless man. We can tell. 😉

Yes that is correct. I will bite the bullet on this one and take one or two for the team..

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21 minutes ago, Nyezhov said:

Im in. I had several Italian girlfriends back in NYC.. Passionate and their moms could cook

Yeah, the genuine food is lovely. 

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1 minute ago, Matzzon said:

Yeah, the genuine food is lovely. 

Best was when they had the Granny. Fat ones in black dresses. Mangiare.

 

One of my fondest memories of life in the 60s and 70s is the extreme volume of great ethnic food ya found down in the NYC area from all the refugees and war brides and suchlike. And when you were a kid, you finished what you were served, as wierd as it was. Like the kid I grew up with whose Mom was from BudaPest would be yelling at us to eat the Mamaliga, "the mamaliga is untouched! We starve in the war! Children starve in camps! You must eat! Maybe the Germans come again!" OK lady, its tasty but wierd nomnomnom. But hey, St. Josephs Table is tomorrow and old man Abruzzo is grilling homemade sausages.

 

 

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6 hours ago, jastheace said:

there are boat loads of ' sub-saharan' economic migrants trying to get in to Italy. just let them in and get Italy as europes Nigeria. fantastic. problem solved. well, not solved, but new problems introduced. booking my amaldi coast holiday now before u know what happens...

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If you are a neutral capitalist with no interest in human notions of identity, it makes obvious sense to replace the elderly expensive population of Europe with the youthful and cheap population of Africa. If computers governed the world, they would perhaps see human attachment to identity as inefficient. Perhaps people are retiring too early, or need cybernetic implants to keep them working longer and reduce retirement costs? /sarc

 

It is not clear why journalists report population decline as a negative thing, when at the same time, reporting environmental decline due to population increase as a bad thing.

These two issues seem mutually exclusive. Why not aim for an optimum population?

Do they report population growth in China and India with the same enthusiasm?

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19 hours ago, BritManToo said:

the problem appears to be many western women just don't want to have babies.

If men had to go through morning sickness, 9 months of carrying a foetus that will give them stretch marks, cause incredible pain during birth and could kill them if something goes wrong, there would probably be zero births.

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1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

If men had to go through morning sickness, 9 months of carrying a foetus that will give them stretch marks, cause incredible pain during birth and could kill them if something goes wrong, there would probably be zero births.

You forgot, after the nine months of work you get paid for the rest of your life and a free house.

I'd take that deal in a goddamned second. 

 

Not sure the 'incredible pain' is actually real, my Thai one popped em out without any apparent effort.

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1 hour ago, BritManToo said:

You forgot, after the nine months of work you get paid for the rest of your life and a free house.

I'd take that deal in a goddamned second. 

 

Not sure the 'incredible pain' is actually real, my Thai one popped em out without any apparent effort.

I had to work in maternity as part of my training and the pain is real. There is no way I'd ever voluntarily subject myself to the trials of pregnancy and birth. Seems more and more women also feel that way.

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3 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

If men had to go through morning sickness, 9 months of carrying a foetus that will give them stretch marks, cause incredible pain during birth and could kill them if something goes wrong, there would probably be zero births.

That is ridiculous. Children are socialized from birth to expect certain things in life. Lately our girls are being socialized to not have babies. Birth control, abortion, and the courts have given them the tools. Western civilization is doomed.

 

Humans will do whatever we are socialized to do. I don't see any girls going through this:

 

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On 2/13/2020 at 3:56 PM, NotYourBusiness said:

Western civilization is doomed.

The "civilization" that gave us concentration camps and industrial genocide, nuclear weapons, exploitation of poor countries, suppression of other cultures and the pollution of the entire planet. Is it worth saving?

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2 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

The "civilization" that gave us concentration camps and industrial genocide, nuclear weapons, exploitation of poor countries, suppression of other cultures and the pollution of the entire planet. Is it worth saving?

Thank you, I will take that as agreement on the other point about men having babies (because you didn't bother to address it). Glad that is settled.

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On 2/11/2020 at 11:29 PM, Jare said:

If you are a neutral capitalist with no interest in human notions of identity, it makes obvious sense to replace the elderly expensive population of Europe with the youthful and cheap population of Africa. If computers governed the world, they would perhaps see human attachment to identity as inefficient. Perhaps people are retiring too early, or need cybernetic implants to keep them working longer and reduce retirement costs? /sarc

 

It is not clear why journalists report population decline as a negative thing, when at the same time, reporting environmental decline due to population increase as a bad thing.

These two issues seem mutually exclusive. Why not aim for an optimum population?

Do they report population growth in China and India with the same enthusiasm?

The op does not report population decline as a negative thing, it reports population decline as a negative thing for Italy. A big difference there. 

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