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She's been my top choice all along. She performs beautifully in the senate so has credible experience. She has strong African American support in her state. She wins bigly in precincts in her state th

Laughable given what you defend in the current incumbent.

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It's worth mentioning I think that the primary nominating process is not the same thing as the electoral college process. In the electoral college in most states, when one candidate gets just one vote more, then they win ALL that state's electoral college votes. In other words, not proportional. In nominating primaries the awarding of delegates in contrast is proportional. So although Bernie did win in New Hampshire, Buttigieg and Klobuchar win delegates as well. That's the game going towards the convention. Win as many delegates as possible. It's way early yet and both Iowa and New Hampshire are not delegate heavy states.

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2 minutes ago, JHolmesJr said:

 

You can't be serious!

You do know that a this point he'll steamroll any of these lightweights in a heartbeat.

What have they accomplished compared to him?

Nada.

I am serious,

Your hubris is empty. 

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9 hours ago, sucit said:

A centrist, woman democrat running against Trump, who has much less funding and political leverage than the last one, who lost. 

 

Voter turnout will be low with her too. People have tried to point out her strengths in this thread and even then it is absolute yawn-ville.

I shoulda said "a centrist, woman, establishment democrat...". 

 

Why is this point not being brought up more? Hilary had more money, more political capital, even more energy and personality, which is scary let me tell you. 

 

People bring up reasons the other candidates are going to lose, but there is no precedent for that. For Klobuchar, we actually have a comp from four goddam years ago, and it aint so good. 

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2 minutes ago, sucit said:

I shoulda said "a centrist, woman, establishment democrat...". 

 

Why is this point not being brought up more? Hilary had more money, more political capital, even more energy and personality, which is scary let me tell you. 

 

People bring up reasons the other candidates are going to lose, but there is no precedent for that. For Klobuchar, we actually have a comp from four goddam years ago, and it aint so good. 

Not really!

HRC had serious baggage.

Including her husband.

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38 minutes ago, Slickrick said:

I thought Biden was done but there is a chance he could do better in SC.  Blacks will stay with him because of the Obama connection but has a problem raising money.

I don't think that they will. Southern black democrats are largely pragmatic, want a winner, and are not very liberal especially on social issues. They can see what everyone else can see -- Biden is in decline as a human being and a candidate. Nothing personal. It happens. But he isn't entitled just because he was VP to Obama to waste a nomination when there are obviously stronger choices now. Dog faced pony soldiers indeed. Like all democrats and even more so they need for 45 to lose. So, no, Biden won't win in S.C. and that's a must win for him. He'll do better than in New Hampshire but he needs to win there. The votes that would have gone to Biden will migrate to Klobuchar as has been shown happened in New Hampshire. Yep Klobuchar picked up a lot of the Biden votes there. Bloomberg is not on the ballot in S.C. (not on until Super Tuesday) though but if he was he would have gotten a lot of support too (he's now 3rd in national polls).  But of course many southern blacks will vote for Bernie as well. The top tier candidate that has the biggest challenge in that regard is Buttigieg but he is trying. Klobuchar and Bloomberg also have work to do but I don't think the stop and frisk thing is nearly as big as problem as some people think as he has apologized. Remember Obama was against gay marriage in his first term and he always had strong LGBT support anyway. In real life politics people make realistic compromises especially when someone truly horrible is the alternative. 

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49 minutes ago, JHolmesJr said:

Whats blumenthal ever done for americans?

He's like a senate ornament sorting his anti trump lines and nothing else.

He meant Bloomberg. Mike Bloomberg. 

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I thought about this a little more and maybe Biden will win in S.C. because Bloomberg isn't on the ballot. But come super Tuesday, forget about it. The older Americans will realize that Biden is an incredibly bad campaigner and has run tons of times and never did well, in fact, did shockingly poorly. He figured being VP on Obama's coattails changed that history but it doesn't appear so. It's sad for him but the country can live without him being president, but it arguably can't live with a 45 second term. 

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