Not just Chinese travellers staying away as virus shakes Thai tourism

[Nip]

16 hours ago, Chelseafan said:

I think they call that an oxymoron.

 

Poxy moron?

[Colabamumbai]

Lazy guy waits 4 hours for a fare, while he sleeps? 

[AndrewMciver]

12 hours ago, madmen said:

You must be joking. The last coup was supposed to be the final nail. And the red yellow shirt wars with bombs, shopping malls on fire, murders, tanks and the shut down of swampy was absolutely and defiantly the last nail..Damn that coffin is pure lead

Betting on what wrong horse? Thailand cant force Chinese to come any more than force the Russians. Those that will come will come.

 

Im in Pattaya and its still busy and no I dont live here. Sure there is a downturn just like in Vietnam and Cambodia . To be expected under the circumstances 

 

Exactly this.

 

We may want the Chinese to stop coming. But oh boy, they will be back. 

 

 

[Skallywag]

Human logic.

Come to Pattaya on holiday and rent a motorbike.  60 traffic fatalities a day, 80% of those motorcycles, plus another couple hundred hospitalized from vehicular accidents per day. 

Cancel a trip to Thailand because CoVid 19 has infected 34 people out of 39 million and no fatalities  

[AndrewMciver]

Just now, Skallywag said:

Human logic.

Come to Pattaya on holiday and rent a motorbike.  60 traffic fatalities a day, 80% of those motorcycles, plus another couple hundred hospitalized from vehicular accidents per day. 

Cancel a trip to Thailand because CoVid 19 has infected 34 people out of 39 million and no fatalities  

 

One you control, the other is out of your controls. 

[Dukeleto]

17 hours ago, mrwinner said:

Well I hope so. The baht is ridiculously overpriced. We need to see this country suffer an economic collapse so that it can rebuild itself into a better one at a slower pace. I really do feel for the local business owners but the way the country has operated in the last 20 years it is just not sustainable.  

And do pray tell based on the previous collapse of the baht will be different after your predicted collapse this time? Nothing right? The only reason foreigners here want the baht to collapse is so they can afford to live here (perhaps not you) and see their home currency go further not so much about concern over Thailand. I wonder how the man in the street at the start of the industrial revolution saw the world going? The problem with this planet is not how strong or weak your currency is, but rather human kind is now proliferating quicker than the Coronavirus and consuming the planet at an unsustainable rate. At the turn of the last century (1900) the worlds population was 1.6 billion it’s now 7.8 billion so that’s 6.2 billion more people in almost 120 years. That’s almost 4 times as many as there were in 1900. This is very interesting:

https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/

[Zack61]

Immigration at Swampy was a breeze the other day. I was off the plane and through immigration within 10 minutes. 

Singapore was also very low on numbers. A ghost town almost. 

Now is a good time to get out and about. 

[sahibji]

totally understable as health before entertainment and leisure. any sane person will exercise due caution and forego non essential travel. the whole world is impacted, of course some countries more than others, but we have to rough it out in these hard times. may racketeers some time think over their unscrupulous behaviour (tuk tuk n taxi drivers in particular, who always want to cherry pick fares, rejecting some rides).

[Bundooman]

17 hours ago, monkfish said:

Yes I guess the Hotels would have been fully booked this time of the year so likely they still have income even if they're half empty.

If hotels are refusing to refund, then they won't be surprised when, after this virus is finally eradicated, that many tourists will have spread the word about refund refusals and they will have even less customers than before to occupy their hotels!

[RichardColeman]

18 hours ago, webfact said:

 he’s seen his daily income drop from about 1300 baht ($41) per day to around 400 baht.

Nothing a good amulet wouldn't fix

[Zack61]

It’s a great time to travel. No queues, no waiting, no problem. 

[sletraveler]

18 hours ago, lujanit said:

A lot like here when a person involved in a vehicle accident and subsequently dies in hospital is not counted as a death from the accident.

 

FYI is the same in the US since they forced the 55mph federal speed limit to save fuel many years ago.   They did so to support the limit by showing a reduction in traffic accidents.    Same BS everywhere.  

[saminoz]

17 hours ago, Chelseafan said:

I think they call that an oxymoron.

 

On account of all the morons in government stealing oxygen?

[Guest]

The tuk tuk driver should remember what the tuk tuk means in Thai and maybe some of the locals may use his service ( tuk tuk = cheap ) only tourists are conned into using tuk tuks.

[saengd]

2 minutes ago, jewell49 said:

The tuk tuk driver should remember what the tuk tuk means in Thai and maybe some of the locals may use his service ( tuk tuk = cheap ) only tourists are conned into using tuk tuks.

Not really, what it means is a two stroke rickshaw, derived from the sound made by its engine.

[sead]

Again. Tourism. <deleted> ...The whole world talks about the virus and Thai government talks about tourism 

[Aussieroaming]

Insanity, barring a cruise ship of passengers, none of whom have coronavirus and then letting 10 times that amount in daily on a different mode of transport. I just can't see the rationale.

[juice777]

I fill sorry for the few tourst who are still there who will now get milked even more we all know how Thai economics works.

[FinChin67]

Coronavirus: Hubei province reports spike in new confirmed cases and deaths after change in diagnostic criteria
Hubei’s new confirmed cases pegged at 14,840, nearly 10 times more than the previous day, while deaths more than doubled to 242
Increases come after change in diagnostic criteria
https://www.scmp.com/news/china/society/article/3050354/coronavirus-hubei-province-reports-sharp-spike-new-confirmed

 

And it's not going away even Chinese President is touring Beijing neighbourhood in a communist propaganda video... 
Coronavirus: Xi Jinping tours Beijing neighbourhood as global death toll reaches 910
https://www.scmp.com/news/china/society/article/3049759/coronavirus-china-reports-97-new-fatalities-death-toll

Most likely Thai government China's southern province officials learn from these videos how to feed BS to the people..

 

Edited February 13, 2020 by FinChin67

[SiSePuede419]

People say don't compare COVID-19 with seasonal flu, which mutates rapidly.  But then someone says COVID-19 may be seasonal.  And COVID-19 is an RNA based virus, just like seasonal flu which indicates it *may* mutate rapidly, making a permanent vaccine impossible.

 

Then someone says this could infect 60% of the world's population and at an estimated 1% death rate that would mean 77 million deaths worldwide.

 

Don't worry 20 something Gap Year Flashpackers Drunken Partiers...

 

Highly unlikely you'll be affected by 

COVID-19.

 

Fact:

"About 80% of people who died from the [COVID-19] virus in China were over the age of 60, and 75% had pre-existing conditions"

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/11/the-coronavirus-appears-to-be-sparing-one-group-of-people-kids.html

 

"Pre-existing conditions"?

 

Like obesity, diabetes and heart problems from not exercising and eating a bad diet of burgers, fish & chips and bangers & mash? 

 

And liver disease from chronic alcoholism?

 

You know what this means?

 

Before too long, the TVF Dinosaur typing pool could go extinct. ????

 

But seriously folks, it's much, much too early to tell if the TVF Dinosaurs will die off.

 

Most likely there will be a worldwide recession for a few months.

 

Worse case, worldwide depression resulting in a toilet paper shortage.

 

Of which, the Thai people will be immune because they don't need it. ????

 

Brother can you spare a square?

 

 

 

 

Edited February 13, 2020 by SiSePuede419

[phantomfiddler]

I think mainly because of the attitude of immigration employees towards tourists and expats who come here for holiday, surly, almost hostile ????

[SiSePuede419]

2 minutes ago, phantomfiddler said:

surly, almost hostile ????

You should fly into JFK airport in New York City sometime if you want to see surly attitude, Pal. 

 

Plus, the dilapidated infrastructure makes the Swampy airport look high tech.

 

 

[Georgie65]

I couldn't be more happy! Personally, I hope the Thai economy tanks and never recovers!!! Make no mistake about it, the country of Thailand absolutely hates all farang!!!!!

[thaibeachlovers]

19 hours ago, webfact said:

As a driver of one of Thailand’s renowned “tuk tuk” motorised rickshaws, Amonchai Laodoungdee is used to busy days ferrying tourists around Bangkok, but on Tuesday he waited for four hours at a shopping mall without a single customer.

I stopped using tuk tuks as the roof was always too low to see out without lying almost horizontal, and I'm not tall.

The problem with Thai tourism is that the people that run it make zero effort to tailor their side to cater for the tourists that give them employment. If they gave a damn, the tuk tuks would have roofs that are high enough for normal height farangs to see out while sitting normally. The songteaws of Pattaya raised their roofs back in the 90s, which was great. The red songtheaws of Chiang Mai have not. The longtails that served on the islands often had no roofs at all, no lifejackets and no mufflers- pure ignorance. Many of the huts I stayed in had death trap electrical wiring, no insect screens and no mossie nets over the beds. Many tour companies had the unfortunate habit of picking up customers in nice new vans and putting everyone into clapped out old vans for the actual tour.

No wonder Thai tourism is in the toilet.

[saengd]

8 minutes ago, Georgie65 said:

I couldn't be more happy! Personally, I hope the Thai economy tanks and never recovers!!! Make no mistake about it, the country of Thailand absolutely hates all farang!!!!!

69 million innocent Thai people send their thanks for your kind sentiment and wish you the best!

Edited February 13, 2020 by saengd

[Miami007]

19 hours ago, smedly said:

But according to all the data released by the Thai government there is no real virus problem in Thailand - only 34 cases and most of them are all recovered 

 

So what is wrong with these people - do they not believe what the Thai Government are saying ???????  

Indonesia has no cases at all. But Bali is still experiencing a decline.  Vietnam also is suffering. 

This has nothing to do with believing the Thai government (or any other).

 

Many people are simply scared to travel as the media is talking about the "deadly coronavirus". But the regular flu kills more people in the USA or Europe but nobody talks about that fact.

[newnative]

   The Chinese will eventually be back once the virus plays out and the travel ban for tour groups is lifted.  They are still coming on their own.  Thailand will remain an attractive, close-by destination, especially to escape the dreary, cold winter months for a few days.  But, it's never a good idea to put everything in one basket--as Thailand is, hopefully, learning.   Thailand needs to be doing tourism outreach to many more countries and building a diverse tourist demographic.  Unfortunately, there are too many incompetents running things--starting at the top.  Not a good thing in the best of times and far worse in times like this.  

[morrobay]

17 hours ago, CanuckThai said:

 

Ok.  So Thai tourism will potentially lose X, Vietnam tourism will potentially lose 2X+ of what Thailand will.  Question: is Vietnam's tourist revenue 2+ times that of Thailand, or is there that much "shrinkage" in reported tourism revenue in Thailand?  

You need to look at source again: Thai loses of $3 billion are from Jan to Apr. Vietnam just says loses are $6 billion. If taken both for full year then Thai loses would be $12 billion. Since Thai GDP is about twice Vietnam GDP: (12B/500B for Thailand) and (6B/250B for Vietnam)  Then although there are a lot of 2x's here the percent loses are equal for loss/GDP

 

[wombat]

19 hours ago, monkfish said:

legally

surely you jest sir?

[thaibeachlovers]

3 minutes ago, Miami007 said:

Indonesia has no cases at all. But Bali is still experiencing a decline.  Vietnam also is suffering. 

This has nothing to do with believing the Thai government (or any other).

 

Many people are simply scared to travel as the media is talking about the "deadly coronavirus". But the regular flu kills more people in the USA or Europe but nobody talks about that fact.

Cars kill more people in a week that have died from Corona virus, but there is no mass hysteria to stop people driving. The media has much to answer for, IMO.