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1 hour ago, BestB said:

Legally hotels do not have to provide refund on a non refundable bookings or bookings outside cancellation free policy. Travel insurance may cover the cancellation but if there is no travel warning and person is not sick, I do not think it would be a legitimate claim . Chinese for example could lodge a claim as China officially restricting travel outside 

You are right but the various online agents have requested that hotels be flexible with their cancellation policies for anyone cancelling as a result of coronavirus. The agents lose out as well as they take commission on cancellation fees.

 

As far as travel insurabce goes, I said in another threda, it depends upon the wording. My gut feel is that most policies won't pay (some actually have exclusions for epidemics and pandemics) but some might.

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2 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

Now, they gambled big, by putting all of their eggs in the China basket and they lost the bet.

Yes they did, hard luck I guess. Better luck next time 😂

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1 hour ago, Mavideol said:

before maybe but not this time..... they will suffer for years to come, Chinese, high baht, poor service, xenophobic comments/actions, IMO visa rules change, growing corruption, poor/bad government performance... they will not see the end of the tunnel for quite some time, they bet on the wrong horse by placing all of it in the Chinese....

You must be joking. The last coup was supposed to be the final nail. And the red yellow shirt wars with bombs, shopping malls on fire, murders, tanks and the shut down of swampy was absolutely and defiantly the last nail..Damn that coffin is pure lead

Betting on what wrong horse? Thailand cant force Chinese to come any more than force the Russians. Those that will come will come.

 

Im in Pattaya and its still busy and no I dont live here. Sure there is a downturn just like in Vietnam and Cambodia . To be expected under the circumstances 

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1 hour ago, BestB said:

Legally hotels do not have to provide refund on a non refundable bookings or bookings outside cancellation free policy. Travel insurance may cover the cancellation but if there is no travel warning and person is not sick, I do not think it would be a legitimate claim . Chinese for example could lodge a claim as China officially restricting travel outside 

OK so I presume Hotel's aren't losing out too much at the moment as they have already been paid up front but they will probably later in the year if the situation doesn't improve.

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19 minutes ago, bkkcanuck8 said:

No, just Vietnam is likely being much more honest about the impact while at the end of the year TAT will likely say tourism grew by 5% YOY again (just like they do when the shop owners are saying tourism off by 30 - 40%). 

 

The impact will be sharp and staggering this year, and then it will likely be many years for it to recuperate as people will continue to have altered their travel patterns (especially companies which will encourage less travel / conferences and more teleconferencing again) -- and until the memory fades a little those travel patterns will be depressed - hitting tourism even after the pandemic has burnt itself out.

Vietnam is being honest based on what, a gut feel? 

 

Were you on the. Vietnam loves us more bandwagon just before they announced the very shocking we  love you less visa changes? 

 

Vietnam screwed themselves just before Corona and I know 3 friends heading back to Thailand in the coming months 

 

 

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6 minutes ago, soalbundy said:

where are all the Indian saviours ?

the comments they made about turning to the Indian market was merely a stunt/lie to instil some hope into the local businesses who are suffering. It is quite clear that the Indian market has never and will never be as lucrative as the European/Western 'farang' market. but they've really shot themselves in the foot over the last 6 years it is hard to see a shift back anytime soon. 

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7 hours ago, lujanit said:

On a minor note I have noticed the downturn here as I order things on Aliexpress and the majority have not been shipped.  One order goes back to Jan 16.

 

That's normal this time of year.

 

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7 hours ago, SteveK said:

That was SerpentZA on YouTube.

It's crazy how he has been given the green light by the government in China to film and produce videos for so many years, all the while bashing then country and culture daily. He does say positive things here and there, but it really is quite an odd setup he's got going 

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1 hour ago, madmen said:

Vietnam is being honest based on what, a gut feel? 

 

Were you on the. Vietnam loves us more bandwagon just before they announced the very shocking we  love you less visa changes? 

 

Vietnam screwed themselves just before Corona and I know 3 friends heading back to Thailand in the coming months 

 

 

What did they change? I know of an English couple who packed up and moved there mid 2019 

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