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51 minutes ago, JHolmesJr said:

No...the defence objected but judge overruled.

 

In legal terms this will be argued as miscarriage of justice among other things.

Mistrial!

Another lie:

"THE COURT: Mr. Buschel, you have a motion?

MR. BUSCHEL: No.

THE COURT: Okay, let's bring in the next juror."

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On 2/13/2020 at 11:18 AM, OneMoreFarang said:

The part that troubles me is how the GOP politicians and voters are willing to ignore their own constitution, the laws, and even basic common sense to support that guy.

They can't be possibly so blind not to see what Trump is doing.

 

This is not about politics. If Americans want a far right leader they can and should elect him. And if they want to change their laws to give the president all the power and make him king then they should do that.

 

But in the moment the USA is still supported to be a democracy based on laws. And everybody has to follow those laws. And the laws are the same for everybody. Is that really so difficult to understand?

 

How would GOP politicians and supporters have reacted if any DEM president would have behaved like Trump? That's a no-brainer. And they would have been right. But with Trump? Everybody closes their eyes as much as they can. No, we don't want to see the truth. Somehow we think it will get better, somehow.

 

Here is a hint: It won't get better until someone stops that maniac. It will get worse. How long do you want to wait until you stop him? What does he have to do before you say enough is enough? Thinks about it. And then act. Now!

We don't need any hints thank you. Your entire characterization Is wrong.

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22 hours ago, Mavideol said:

Putin is fighting hard trying to change Russia's constitution to be president/dictator for life, he's following Chinese Xi Ji Ping steps and Trumps is trying to copy both of them

This is a made up assertion about President Trump with zero factual basis. Even as opinion, there is no foundation of reality to form such an opinion. It's like saying Trump is about to launch nuclear weapons, or is in Putin's pocket, or is a racist.

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21 hours ago, blazes said:

 

 

Ah, this is comedy at its finest: the "USA's role in the world"....shall we mention... erm...Persia (1948), Korea (1950-53), Vietnam (1954-75); Chile (1973); and so many places in Latin America it's not worth listing them; and so many "interventions" and wars in the Middle East, not worth listing ...too many.

 

Many "decent Americans" will indeed not 'stand' for that....they are too busy pushing up the daisies in too many graveyards around the world.....

It's tough to be a superpower, but someone's got to do it. Please stop calling.

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16 hours ago, Tug said:

Imo it’s the way trump relies on partisanship and his info lying news bs he Pitts us against each other and relying on raw emotional support many Americans don’t think through how they are beeing used and quite frankly some are to stupid to know the difference as a side note some posters imo are possibly payed some stripend to post negative things and creat the illusion trump is right 

Don't call Trump supporters stupid. It's all about policy man. 

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14 hours ago, Sujo said:

Then you really must hate trump for not prosecuting them.

 

What do you say about that.

A United States Government year University textbook would be a good place for you to answer your own question. But  I will help, John Durham is a very busy man at the moment.

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14 hours ago, rhyddid said:

Very correct, a President can not say to a court of law to be lenient or heavy in sentencing, justice shall do its course and Judge shall rule according to the law, not a fancy president will, if we are still in democracy!

A US President can publicly speak his mind any time he wants, and offend anyone he wants, he can call out the Supreme court or shout about prosecutors all day long. He can even have a "fancy" will, whatever that means. ????

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16 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Respect for pro Trumpers? Wow!

That reminds me of the mafia. You just have to respect the boss. Otherwise bad things will happen to you.

Why should we respect people who support a [inset all the parts which would be censored] person? 

Goes to show.

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15 hours ago, Sujo said:

If you know facts, hard for a trump supporter, the prosecutors gave the sentencing submission then 16 hours later the doj decided they didnt like it.

 

But the judge doesnt need to to agree.

Another example for the denigration of Trump supporters, this time by you.

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1 hour ago, candide said:

Another lie:

"THE COURT: Mr. Buschel, you have a motion?

MR. BUSCHEL: No.

THE COURT: Okay, let's bring in the next juror."

https://frenchpress.thedispatch.com/p/is-there-a-stone-jury-scandal-not

 

1 hour ago, JHolmesJr said:

And the judge steamrolled it through anyway.

Huge pain coming for her....totally discredited.

 

57 minutes ago, WalkingOrders said:

Actually no. The judge vetted the jury.

The defense lawyer did not reject her. See above.

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19 minutes ago, candide said:

 

 

The defense lawyer did not reject her. See above.

IIRC, there are 12 jurors.....you cant just reproduce a random

statement that might have been recorded for an unopposed jury member.

Try again....this one is either going to be a mistrial.....or will be appealed....

and if sentencing is to occur it will be under more realistic guidelines.

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19 minutes ago, JHolmesJr said:

IIRC, there are 12 jurors.....you cant just reproduce a random

statement that might have been recorded for an unopposed jury member.

Try again....this one is either going to be a mistrial.....or will be appealed....

and if sentencing is to occur it will be under more realistic guidelines.

"Hart (identified only as Juror 1261, but identifiable by her statement that she ran for Congress and other biographical details) was questioned by the trial judge and by defense counsel."

 

By the way, it's you and your mates who claim the defense lawyer did object. Where is your evidence? You did not provide any. (Not Trump's tweets, please)

 

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