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Hello,

 

I am a director from France, and I plan to do a trip to visit a friend of mine who became a boxer manager in Bangkok, and owns an equipment shop there. It's not the first time I visit the country, I will be spending ten days in Thailand as a tourist in march, but this time he would like me to film some of his boxers workout/fights/daily routine to boost his communication.

 

So here is the situation, there is no company hiring me, no financial arrangement between us, and the movie will be sold to any channel, he already told me that some of his crew members already filmed fights from the ringside, and he never had any problems, but after doing some researches, I read a lot of things, specifically about  the need of a film permit in order to shoot in public spaces. I would need to pay about 1000 USD, + tell the commission every locations and characters involved for every single " shooting days ". That cost wouldn't even include the fee of a film commission PA who would be there following me all day long, to make sure that the footage isn't offensive to the Thai laws. Food, and accommodation should also be provided for that guy.

 

My may concern is even though I would be happy to collaborate in order to make sure I won't end up in jail, I won't be able to provide them the informations they need to match their need. It's gonna be a Run & Gun spontaneous shoot kind, and neither me of my friend will know when and where we are going to shoot. I would also be frustrated having to respect the same logistic conditions as any production company coming there to shoot an add with a 20 persons crew.

 

One last thing, even though I will be alone shooting, I will be handling a pretty heavy camera, not the kind of low key DSLR setup. I'm lucky enough to own this nice piece of equipment, and the quality it provides is pretty essential for the project purpose.

 

Do you think there is a risk launching this project ? What should I do / not do to avoid a big drama ?

 

Thanks by advance !

 

Have a nice day

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You have a choice.. Break the law, which is not that uncommon, or pay the price (in potential fees for legality or other worse outcomes). 

The key would be making it appear that your doing this for fun as a tourist.. Until after you have left the country. The obvious production camera is a give away. 

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The OP requires some clarification

You state that you are a director in France.  I assume this to mean that you are a bona fide film director as opposed to a company director.

 

You claim to be coming as a Tourist for 10 days. What visa if anything Will you enter the kingdom.

 

 You are evidently aware of some of the conditions required ( I do not know if correct ) but are unable to fulfil because you're itinerary is not fixed. Considering your purpose is to film some of your mates boxers training and daily routine and the short duration of the trip . Only 10 days .This seems to be unbelievable.

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1 hour ago, FritsSikkink said:

You are shooting a movie and will sell it to every channel, what about following the rules.

Exactly!

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Do you think there is a risk launching this project ? What should I do / not do to avoid a big drama ?

Get the right visa that allows you to work in Thailand to make this film.

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I obviously meant " won't be sold to any channel ". (..)

Once again, this is not work to me, I work ever day in France, there is a contract, and a salary, this is not the case there, I'm not sure you got the point..

 

Thanks anyway

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10 minutes ago, KubrickJR said:

I obviously meant " won't be sold to any channel ". (..)

Once again, this is not work to me, I work ever day in France, there is a contract, and a salary, this is not the case there, I'm not sure you got the point..

 

Thanks anyway

It is work for the Thai law, it doesn't matter if there is a contract or you do it for free. You need the right visa and a work permit.

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19 minutes ago, KubrickJR said:

I obviously meant " won't be sold to any channel ". (..)

Once again, this is not work to me, I work ever day in France, there is a contract, and a salary, this is not the case there, I'm not sure you got the point..

 

Thanks anyway

To answer your original question you should comply with the required laws to allow the project to go ahead.

You say you are happy to do so but for the itinery. Simply arrange an itinery with your mate and the boxers . 

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I would suggest the only sensible option: Tell your friend that you are not able to do it due to Thailand's laws.

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Not sure how you would explain what you describe as a 'large ( heavy ) piece of camera equipment' you will be bringing into Thailand. 

There is a very low value quoted by customs on personal items allowed in. I'm unsure but it might be around 10,000 baht.

If you ship/bring it in I would be prepared for a very long 'negotiation period' and 'not' small fee to get it out of customs.

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17 hours ago, KubrickJR said:

I obviously meant " won't be sold to any channel ". (..)

Once again, this is not work to me, I work ever day in France, there is a contract, and a salary, this is not the case there, I'm not sure you got the point..

 

Thanks anyway

What a load of crappp. IT IS WORK!! You should watch some of those Border Security shows they have on Western countries' tv. Someone tried that crappp with an IO when interviewed and they sent him back home on the next available flight. Actually, seem a few of those on those shows, all sent back immediately for not having the correct working visa.

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1 hour ago, overherebc said:

Not sure how you would explain what you describe as a 'large ( heavy ) piece of camera equipment' you will be bringing into Thailand. 

There is a very low value quoted by customs on personal items allowed in. I'm unsure but it might be around 10,000 baht.

If you ship/bring it in I would be prepared for a very long 'negotiation period' and 'not' small fee to get it out of customs.

Never had a problem rolling Camera gear in and out and technically, Im bringing in professional equipment. They have never even looked at it, nor even my declaration.

 

To the OP, if you want to run and gun, leave the Big Lens at home and use a Lumix G5 or G9. The Leica 10-25 I guess is now the video rage on those two cameras. If you cant get professional results with them, then go back to director school, because even a moron like me can get fab video out of them.

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