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1 hour ago, chainarong said:

Not a problem they can place it anywhere in you PP so long as you've got enough pages left and what do you do when you use the Auto exit or arrival, it does't even indicate you've left or arrived.

Yes I never get my passport stamped when I arrive back in OZ, I just put it in to

a scanner, get a ticket so I can walk out and show that ticket when I go

trough to pick up my luggage. No stamps whats so ever.

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36 minutes ago, White Christmas13 said:

Yes I never get my passport stamped when I arrive back in OZ, I just put it in to

a scanner, get a ticket so I can walk out and show that ticket when I go

trough to pick up my luggage. No stamps whats so ever.

Still have to fill out that Aus incoming passenger declaration though. Vietnam got rid of that years ago.

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They scan your pp and the info comes up on screen. I have no idea why a stamp is needed at all.

 

And as for the countries that give you full page visa entry stickers, grrr.

 

On a side note. I had applied for a malaysia employment pass. I was on visa exempt 90 days and had been for 5 years.

 

I only had 3 empty pages so they told me to get a new pp. Problem is that if i got a new pp my visa exempt does not transfer, it is voided and immediately on overstay, which isnt looking good.

 

Took a phone call from a prominent person to imm to tell talentcorp they are idiots to insist on this. They let me have it.

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My current PP is still valid until around 2026 but I doubt to even make it another year, so much pages used for stickers and stamps. 
They aren't exactly gentle with it either so it starts to look like a thick wreck by now (which only causes Thai IO's to even check everything more). 

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4 hours ago, ChaiyaTH said:


They aren't exactly gentle with it...

Thailand is stapling in my TM 6.

I had to unstaple for some reason.

 

 When I got my 30 day extension they stapled it onto another page.

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2 hours ago, Isaan Alan said:

It doesn't matter - it really doesn't matter

your blank pages are still blank and therefore usable

 

Not so. A blank page is not a blank page, I found to my chagrin.

 

I was (initially) denied entry not just once but twice to Indonesia for not having any blank pages, even though I had plenty of them.

 

The first time I was told I couldn't enter and would have to go back. I was escorted to an office and sat down. I didn't have any more blank visa pages, so they had no place to put my visa on arrival. I showed them there were still 3 blank pages at the end of my passport, but they said those pages weren't for visas. Sure enough, upon closer look, they were marked "Endorsements." The others were marked "Visas."

 

After a lengthy time of going back and forth, with me apologizing for my ignorance and them expressing their condolences for my abrupt return to Thailand, they finally said they would allow me in this time.

 

When I eventually got back to Bangkok, I asked immigration if the last 3 pages could indeed be used and they confirmed that would not be a problem.

 

The next time I went to Indonesia, I took the same passport and ran into the same problem. Got shuffled into the same office. Told them that the Thai IOs said it was all right. They said theirs was a different country and I'd have to go back. After another drawn out session, during which they seemed to be waiting for me to make some kind of offer, they let me in on the promise that I would get a new passport. Which is what I did.

 

The painful part is that I had a blank visa page but worked hard to get it filled. Lots of IOs don't want to put their stamp on a back page. Had I left that page blank, I wouldn't have had to replace a passport early with several blank pages remaining.

 

Note: This was with a US passport and when visitors had to pay for a VOA.

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Lots of references her to "my" passport.  Just to be pedantic, it belongs to your government; you are just the bearer.  If his government's agent wants to put a stamp on a random page of your government's document, so be it.  I can't see what the big deal is - does it mean you are going to miss a flight, train, bus because it takes the next immigration officer 20 seconds more to process you? 

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3 hours ago, bkk_bwana said:

Lots of references her to "my" passport.  Just to be pedantic, it belongs to your government; you are just the bearer.

That seems to be the prevailing wisdom on this forum. However, it really depends on the country whether it is true or not.

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On 2/14/2020 at 2:03 PM, murraynz said:

I've had idiots do similar to that, but I've had Thai Imm go back many pages, to find the last small space for their stamp. Very good of Thai Imm. 

Not very good. Just normal, that is what they are supposed to do. No immigration needs a completely empty page if only stamping. An empty page is required if putting in a visa sticker which is a large one. and where the empty space is does not matter as long as you have some. Thai immigration already stamped my passport randomly in the middle. Chinese and Indonesians too. Lazy to look, just open and stamp. Disrespectful but not of bigger consequence...

Next Immigration officer has to look longer until he finds a space, so they just give trouble/work to each other...

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regardless of whether my passport technically belongs to my government or me,  for any practical purpose it's mine. 

therefore, i take the initiative when i pass through immigration of *any* country and ask the IO if they can place the stamp where i want it (except with visas, i've never seen any IO of any country who didn't stamp next to the visa that got you in). 

that said i don't see how an IO stamping at the end of your book would cause any major problem, aside from using up a page, but i've never seen any IO stamp an endorsements page (US passport).  the reason i micromanage where the stamp lands is that i fill passports up rather quickly. 


I'm confused as to what problems this may have caused, aside from not enough blank pages for an entry. i believe you need only 2 blank pages to get a new visa for Thailand (i had 3 last time) and 'endorsements" pages don't count (I had 3 blank pages plus all endorsements pages blank last time, i still don't know what the hell endorsements pages are used for aside from breaking the heart of the passport bearer). 

 

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