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Thai Army Reform: A tough new rule – with exceptions

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On 2/14/2020 at 2:43 PM, kotsak said:

"were exempt because of their significant contributions to the country’s wellbeing."

 

Can they name one?

The 2014 coup.

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On 2/14/2020 at 2:27 PM, webfact said:

Army chief General Apirat Kongsompong has ordered many retired military officers to move out of houses purchased with the aid of an Army welfare scheme, and they have until the end of February.

and while he's at the cleaning, should also remove their "free" servants, free cars & drivers assigned and all other unnecessary benefits, tough (difficult) times call for tough (difficult) measure/decisions

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10 hours ago, peter14 said:

This is Wrong  remember what I say here. This will.pisss off many of them. They will take gun and shout... the economy is bad.. people have no money. Bank not lending and everyone pawn money in Thailand right now..  kicking out retire office fri  home will create HATE... thailand is sinking....

When "The Colonels" are p****d-off, history has shown that bad things can follow.

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Unless the house is owned by the army, a married quarter, for example, he has no right to order anyone out of their house. Where else will they live?

 

I trust this will apply to him when he retires. Oh, he'll decide he made an outstanding contribution, so that'll be ok.

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On 2/14/2020 at 8:40 PM, thequietman said:

So ............ the ordinary soldier contributes nothing?  😞

What about the 250 Generals appointed to the senate?

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On 2/14/2020 at 8:05 PM, tifino said:

 think of all those lowly Privates! - layed off from slave servant duty

And from many reports relieved from inappropriate laboring activities and abuse from the officers and their wives.

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6 hours ago, The Deerhunter said:

What about the 250 Generals appointed to the senate?

Great question!

 

I wonder if / when FF will bring that one up, for discussion about it's appropriateness, it's very strong affiliation to the PM's party (should be military dominated party) and the cost of transporting approx. 250 army officers there, day, their lack of any valuable contribution to debated issues and to legislation, plus meals, transport home and salaries and allowances, which must add up to total waste of hundreds of millions of taxpayers Baht. 

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I just sit back and watch the sideshow unfold. Funny you know they makes these rules but does anyone of them ever be forced to obey Relax army boys you can still be in your houses at the end of 2024 haha Nothing will change relax. The whole system is rotten to the core and the poor iN Thailand suffer.

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2 hours ago, scorecard said:

Great question!

 

I wonder if / when FF will bring that one up, for discussion about it's appropriateness, it's very strong affiliation to the PM's party (should be military dominated party) and the cost of transporting approx. 250 army officers there, day, their lack of any valuable contribution to debated issues and to legislation, plus meals, transport home and salaries and allowances, which must add up to total waste of hundreds of millions of taxpayers Baht. 

IMHO there's another point to all of this.

 

Jut who should be deciding and announcing the purpose, the policies, the structure, etc., etc of the armed forces (whether it's just the army or all arms including the navy and the air force).

 

Right now we see the army leader personally making / changing all of the army policies without any drive or inputs from the people through introduction of alternative / changes in the subject matter in parliament.

 

Just shows how much power the army has. In reality it can (now and for several past decades) dictate without any parliamentary discussion nor open public discussion the purpose, policies, structuring of the army.

 

Another reason, IMHO, to applaud <deleted> drive to bring the military under the control of and accountable to the people. Go FF.

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On 2/14/2020 at 2:27 PM, webfact said:

He made some notable exceptions, saying Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha and Deputy Prime Minister Prawit Wongsuwan, both retired generals, were exempt because of their significant contributions to the country’s wellbeing.

This is what I call absolute equality, good ...

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2 hours ago, scorecard said:

IMHO there's another point to all of this.

 

Jut who should be deciding and announcing the purpose, the policies, the structure, etc., etc of the armed forces (whether it's just the army or all arms including the navy and the air force).

 

Right now we see the army leader personally making / changing all of the army policies without any drive or inputs from the people through introduction of alternative / changes in the subject matter in parliament.

 

Just shows how much power the army has. In reality it can (now and for several past decades) dictate without any parliamentary discussion nor open public discussion the purpose, policies, structuring of the army.

 

Another reason, IMHO, to applaud <deleted> drive to bring the military under the control of and accountable to the people. Go FF.

Further emphasis, in today's news there's mention Gen A will early next week sign a memorandum of understanding with the finance ministry.

 

Just wondering on what authority can he sign such a memorandum. He's the army chief not the owner of the army, therefore how can he sign such documents? 

 

Surely such documents should be the written documentation of policies coming from broad open discussions in parliament which have produced a motion and then voting in parliament by the representatives voted into the parliament by the people of Thailand.

 

Go ff...

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I wonder if the 'Sinister Minister' who did time in a Sydney Longbay house for drug smuggling, lives in a FREE home?

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On 2/14/2020 at 2:27 PM, webfact said:

The same applies to other Cabinet members and to Privy Councillors.

And any friends off the above; and their families; and their gardeners' friends and families; all watch dealers; uniform makers and their maids and maids families ... oh sod it - let's just leave it as it is.

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18 hours ago, The Deerhunter said:

What about the 250 Generals appointed to the senate?

I think anyone who is on a fancy committee or who has at least one fancy watch needs not worry. 

 

We could argue parliament should set up ruled regarding the use of state property and not the army itself, but in Thailand,  what really is the difference between Senate,  Parliament and high ranking army staff? 

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Referring to the remarks by many members of this forum, I wander why do they have to react on Thai internal affairs? Why we mast spit into the well that we drink from? Why al the sarcasm? Why being grumpy all the time? What good will it do to the attitude of the authorities to our stay in this "bad" land?

If you suffer here so much, why do you stay here at all? 

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