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9 hours ago, BritManToo said:

For retirement you only need 800k in the bank a few months.

No requirement for a years bank statements (that would be the 65k/month income method)

With the 800k option, do you now not need to show that 800k remains in the bank for three months after the extension has been granted plus 400k after that for the remainder of the extension? 

 

That rule came in last January as far as I'm aware so Immigration will need a years bank statement to confirm the new rules have been adhered to.

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I gather that Chiang Mai Immigration are prepared to consider extension of stay applications which are submitted up to 45 days in advance of the current permission of stay expiring. This is considerably in excess of the maximum period permitted by most other offices (a mere 30 days in their case).

 

So how soon in advance of the expiry date did the OP attempt to lodge his initial application on this occasion, I wonder? Unless the answer lies in the mystical previous posting he referred to (and which, quite frankly, I can't be bothered to expend the effort in tracking down on here), his apparent silence on this fundamental point is deafening, to say the least!

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11 hours ago, BritManToo said:

For retirement you only need 800k in the bank a few months.

Actually, if one is renewing a retirement extension a month early, ie one obtained in March last year, the requirement is to show 800k for April, May and June, then 400k for the rest of the year, and back up to 800k from January 2020!

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5 minutes ago, CMNightRider said:

Chiang Mai Immigration is by far the worst immigration facility in Thailand, and this is the way the ringleader of this circus wants it.  It's really too bad since Chiang Mai, is probably the best city in Thailand to live for westerners.  

 

It always surprises me when people post comments about all the nonsense they have to go through at this office just to renew their visas every year, then simple minded posters will write, you must not have been dressed properly or you probably didn't show the proper respect.  Comments like this make me want to vomit. 

 

One could show up at that office wearing a tuxedo, crawling and grovelling before these people on your belly, and you would still receive the same treatment like you are bothering these people.

 

 

 

  

That is sad, I thought Big Jok had sorted them out and for a spell they were wonderful. 

Is it the case that they want you to be using agents again?

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16 hours ago, Kurtf said:

to get a statement like that we have to wait 7 days because the bank has to wire a request to Bangkok and it takes them 7 days to send that information back.

That's a bit strange as we can get a full years statement off our mobile phone app in PDF bank letter headed format within an instant? Cannot you use that?

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5 minutes ago, MJKT2014 said:

That's a bit strange as we can get a full years statement off our mobile phone app in PDF bank letter headed format within an instant? Cannot you use that?

My Bangkok Bank App and online access cannot go back that far, only 6 months.

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9 minutes ago, jacko45k said:

My Bangkok Bank App and online access cannot go back that far, only 6 months.

Interesting. I use KBank and the mobile app does one year statements instantly to my email account, but the online web access only does 6 months access in print to pdf output mode. Each bank to their own. I plan to use the online app for my next retirement extension and see if they accept it.

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2 hours ago, john terry1001 said:

Immigration will need a years bank statement to confirm the new rules have been adhered to.

And it has been reported several times on here that banks can't (or won't) issue 12-month statements at the drop of a hat (as the OP has now discovered in his case).

 

More generally, I am getting the distinct impression that, had the OP appraised himself of the contents of numerous postings on here over the past year or so before embarking on his current quest for an extension, most of the difficulties which he has, in the event, encountered might well have been forestalled!

 

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1 hour ago, jacko45k said:

That is sad, I thought Big Jok had sorted them out and for a spell they were wonderful. 

Is it the case that they want you to be using agents again?

One small change that I noticed when we went for the Marathon visa sorry Married visa was that they had a list on how they wanted the documents stacked all numbered but with hindsight there might of been a hint on display as the whole thing was in Thai, maybe to speed up the Agents job?

one offered her services ''10,000 baht to check your paperwork.

 

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15 hours ago, moe666 said:

They do hand out a sheet with all the requirements on it for what you want. I pay a agent 3,000b and she has everything in order when I arrive for my appointment no hassel no anger and the job is done. You stated they closed the doors when they had 100 people in immigration did they reopen doors later for more folks are was that total for the day

Please pm me the contact info/ website  from your agent.

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4 hours ago, jacko45k said:

That is sad, I thought Big Jok had sorted them out and for a spell they were wonderful. 

Is it the case that they want you to be using agents again?

Big Joke did shake them down, changes last like any change management in thailand, about a month then back to the old ways. The loyal servants that work there do not get brown envelopes from individual farangs doing their own visa stuff. The envelopes come from agents ; hence the attitude issue. Many say do it yourself its easy but not at CNX immigration its not; I have used the same agent for years; as Kelsall said above, couple hundred bucks for  the year  and no hassles. We never argue over price when a car is serviced by a dealer but an agents fee is an issue; how bizarre.

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16 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Sounds a bit odd,

For retirement you only need 800k in the bank a few months.

No requirement for a years bank statements (that would be the 65k/month income method)

They've never wanted all the pages in my passport either, just the data page and last VISA & stamp entry page.

 

Sounds like you weren't dressed correctly and didn't show proper respect!

I go to HCMC for my VISA's at the moment, I'd top myself if I had to endure CM Immigration.

 

Sadly every office puts their own interpretations of the rules, adds their own requirements and then this is subject to the whims of individual officers actually processing the request on the day. 

 

I've always had to photocopy ID page, and every page that has a permission to stay extension on it, plus the last entry stamp and entry card. Some officers take some out, others keep the lot!

 

New not recognized officers is always alarming because you've got to find out their particular requirements.

 

It would seem more standardization would make it more easy for everyone, applicants and officers. 

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