Tippaporn Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 (edited) On 2/16/2020 at 3:44 PM, bristolboy said: "President Obama said Hillary Clinton exhibited "carelessness" in handling emails, but defended his former secretary of State and "guaranteed" that politics will not influence an ongoing investigation of her, in an appearance on Fox News Sunday. "I guarantee that there is no political influence in any investigation conducted by the Justice Department, or the FBI — not just in this case, but in any case," Obama said in the pre-taped interview that broadcast Sunday." https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2016/04/10/barack-obama-fox-news-sunday-hillary-clinton-donald-trump-ted-cruz-chris-wallace/82862338/ And as I pointed out, the Attorney General at the time recused herself from the investigation and left it to the FBI. And James Comey was rebuked by the Inspector General of the Justice department for condemning Clinton in announcing his decision to prosecute. The same James Comey who 2 weeks before the elections, announced publicly that the FBI was going to search Anthony Weiner's computer for any emails from Hillary Clinton that breached security. Maybe if Barr recused himself from these investigations, you might have a better point. Well, we all know what happened with the Hillary email crime so it's obvious Obama lied. But that's another topic. My point is singular and simple and it is this: False accusations ranging from interfering in Stone's sentencing to deliberately corrupting the DOJ, considered so serious by some that they consider his tweet and impeachable offense, yet when Obama interfered in Hillary's email crime the libs/Dems see nothing wrong with it. Proof of that? You, for one, are defending Obama's actions and condemning Trump's. It's like speaking out of both sides of one's mouth. Comey, Lynch, Barr et al are irrelevant to my point. On 2/16/2020 at 3:48 PM, bristolboy said: Roger Stone threatened another witness if he gave unfavorable testimony. That's a very serious crime. As for Bill Barr, keep in mind that during his first stint as Attorney General, he recommended a pardon for everyone under investigation in the Iran Contra scandal. Barr’s Push for Iran-Contra Pardons Likely to Emerge in Confirmation Hearing When President George H.W. Bush pardoned six Reagan administration officials involved in the Iran-Contra scandal in 1992, he had the blessing of a powerful ally: then-Attorney General William Barr. Mr. Barr, now President Trump’s pick for attorney general, recommended the pardons of former Defense Secretary Caspar Weinberger and five others, saying later he thought they had been “unjustly treated” by a special counsel who charged them with offenses including lying to Congress. https://www.wsj.com/articles/barrs-push-for-iran-contra-pardons-likely-to-emerge-in-confirmation-hearing-11546002000 Everything you posted is also irrelevant to my point. On 2/16/2020 at 4:20 PM, bristolboy said: Right. It's the Democrats attempting to sully the Justice Dept. Here are few choice words from someone you apparently believe is a Democrat: President Donald Trump at a rally in Pennsylvania on Tuesday night lashed out at the FBI, calling staff of the agency "scum."... Trump repeated claims the FBI had "spied" on his 2016 campaign. The report, released the day before by the Justice Department's inspector general, Michael Horowitz, had found such a characterization to be groundless. Here are the Russia probe conspiracy theories debunked by the DOJ inspector general report https://www.politico.com/news/2019/12/09/russia-conspiracy-theories-inspector-general-report-079474 Also irrelevant to my point. You can't justify vilifying one person while at the same time defending another for doing similar. You've not only lost the argument, bristolboy, but from your posts it's evident that you have double standards. Trump . . . not O.K. Obama . . . O.K. Amen. Edited February 17, 2020 by Tippaporn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tippaporn Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 (edited) On 2/15/2020 at 6:51 PM, wwest5829 said: Sorry... I seem to have lost the plot. What is the subject of this post. The subject is Trump ... stop deflecting. If you can't follow a simple train of thought then I can't help you. But of course you can. You evidently just don't have a valid argument to posit. In which case you accuse someone of deflecting as a way of deflecting yourself. My post was about Trump. LOL Go and try and fool someone else. Edited February 17, 2020 by Tippaporn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolboy Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 55 minutes ago, Tippaporn said: You can't justify vilifying one person while at the same time defending another for doing similar. You've not only lost the argument, bristolboy, but from your posts it's evident that you have double standards. Trump . . . not O.K. Obama . . . O.K. Amen. Who did Obama vilify? And it's always a mark of someone who's unsure of arguments when he pronounces himself the victor or his opponent the loser. And I wasn't aware the Obama called his people whose actions he disagreed with scum, invoked discredited conspiracy theories like crowdstrike, or lied about the facts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolboy Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 59 minutes ago, Tippaporn said: Well, we all know what happened with the Hillary email crime so it's obvious Obama lied. But that's another topic. Maybe in the alternative universe you come from Hillary Clinton was proved to have committed a crime, but not in this one. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolboy Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 1 hour ago, Tippaporn said: False accusations ranging from interfering in Stone's sentencing to deliberately corrupting the DOJ, considered so serious by some that they consider his tweet and impeachable offense, yet when Obama interfered in Hillary's email crime the libs/Dems see nothing wrong with it. What we do know is that this attorney general has singled out cases that Trump has given his special appalling attention to. And given the thousands of cases that the DOJ handles, it's odd that the AG gives his own special attention to the ones Trump focuses on and often lies about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tippaporn Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 12 minutes ago, bristolboy said: Who did Obama vilify? And it's always a mark of someone who's unsure of arguments when he pronounces himself the victor or his opponent the loser. And I wasn't aware the Obama called his people whose actions he disagreed with scum, invoked discredited conspiracy theories like crowdstrike, or lied about the facts. Nothing in your post is to the point. And yes, you lost the argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tippaporn Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 3 minutes ago, bristolboy said: What we do know is that this attorney general has singled out cases that Trump has given his special appalling attention to. And given the thousands of cases that the DOJ handles, it's odd that the AG gives his own special attention to the ones Trump focuses on and often lies about. Still not to my point. You keep going off on irrelevant tangents. Only one point . . . Trump . . . not O.K. Obama . . . O.K. Stay on topic if you can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tippaporn Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 12 minutes ago, bristolboy said: Maybe in the alternative universe you come from Hillary Clinton was proved to have committed a crime, but not in this one. Going off point yet again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolboy Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 Just now, Tippaporn said: Nothing in your post is to the point. And yes, you lost the argument. Apparently you believe that asserting something isn't to the point is the same as proving it. As in many things, Lewis Carroll characterized best absurd comments like yours:'ll be judge, I'll be jury, said cunning old Fury I'll try the whole cause and condemn you to death." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tippaporn Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 27 minutes ago, bristolboy said: Apparently you believe that asserting something isn't to the point is the same as proving it. As in many things, Lewis Carroll characterized best absurd comments like yours:'ll be judge, I'll be jury, said cunning old Fury I'll try the whole cause and condemn you to death." bristolboy, you have defended Obama for personally commenting and defending Hillary for her actual crimes in national media while at the same time you're on the bandwagon screaming about how Trump's tweet opining how a sentence was too stiff is proof of interfering with the DOJ and corrupting the justice department. As I said, you can't justify vilifying one person while at the same time defending another for doing similar. It's a double standard. You've provided zero argument as to how the two instances are not similar. Therefore, you lost the argument. So please accept it the same as you accept Donald Trump as your President. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolboy Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 8 minutes ago, Tippaporn said: bristolboy, you have defended Obama for personally commenting and defending Hillary for her actual crimes in national media while at the same time you're on the bandwagon screaming about how Trump's tweet opining how a sentence was too stiff is proof of interfering with the DOJ and corrupting the justice department. As I said, you can't justify vilifying one person while at the same time defending another for doing similar. It's a double standard. You've provided zero argument as to how the two instances are not similar. Therefore, you lost the argument. So please accept it the same as you accept Donald Trump as your President. And what court of law found Clinton guilty of a crime? You and Trump seem unable to assimilate even the basics of the US system of justice. The Founding fathers would be horrified by the assertion you make. Obama's AG actually recused herself from the Clinton investigation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tippaporn Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 bristolboy, I know it's just too much for you to make a simple admission when you're wrong. Let's leave it at that, agreed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolboy Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 Just now, Tippaporn said: bristolboy, I know it's just too much for you to make a simple admission when you're wrong. Let's leave it at that, agreed? I know that it's too much to expect you to understand that asserting something is irrelevant or isn't so isn't the same as proving it. You can take it or leave it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tippaporn Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 11 minutes ago, bristolboy said: I know that it's too much to expect you to understand that asserting something is irrelevant or isn't so isn't the same as proving it. You can take it or leave it. LOL. You mean like the Dems when they asserted that certain witnesses were irrelevant. Gotcha! Nice to see you finally make that admission. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolboy Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 9 minutes ago, Tippaporn said: LOL. You mean like the Dems when they asserted that certain witnesses were irrelevant. Gotcha! Nice to see you finally make that admission. Once again, refereeing your own comments. Sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAG Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 On 2/16/2020 at 5:10 PM, bristolboy said: Thanks for sharing the results of your poll with us. Can you please give us some insight into your methodology? He swung by a few of his mates fortified log cabins up in the Appalachians to ask them, only two of them opened fire when he knocked on the door... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sujo Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 1 hour ago, bristolboy said: I know that it's too much to expect you to understand that asserting something is irrelevant or isn't so isn't the same as proving it. You can take it or leave it. talking facts and sense to a trump supporter is like talking to a brick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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