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We are buying a new Chevy Captiva and of course the dealer wants to tint the windows. I said I don't want it, we do quite well without window tinting on our cars in the US, even in hot climates like Florida where we spend a fair amount of time. Our current Thailand car has relatively light tinting which hinders night vision when I'm driving, and I've rented some cars with tinting so dark I thought the headlights were defective until realizing that it's the excessively dark tint. 

 

The wife's friends are in shock, telling her all cars in Thailand MUST have tinting or unspecified horrors will occur, which I suspect have to do with skin tone.

 

My questions;

 

1) Does anyone on the forum drive a car with no tint in Thailand? Or would we be the only ones in the country per the wife and friends.

2) Does anyone know if cars in the US/Europe have more tint when delivered than what comes from the manufacturers in Thailand (as claimed by some when I tell them that we drive in Florida with no window tint).

3) Now that she will have her own car, I would like to remove the tint from the old car which will be mine. Is that possible? Is it easily removed?

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According to the dealership, 40% is the lightest tinting. So that's already above what is technically legal?

 

If 30% is the legal limit, is that what is delivered from the manufacturer?

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14 minutes ago, lopburi3 said:

Having been required to have tint after an attack in the Philippines in 1986 made it prudent to hid agree totally that it is an extreme danger at night and not at all required during the day (removed when next lived in South Florida for 3 years).  In my case removal was complicated by rear window defogger also being removed but other than that no issues.  

You feel more secure with pedestrians not knowing you are a farang? Hadn't given that any thought.

 

My car also has a rear defogger which I would want to keep intact. I know that some renew their tinting at shops that specialize in that. Presumably they remove the old stuff first and could do it without harming the defogger?

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13 minutes ago, ftpjtm said:

You feel more secure with pedestrians not knowing you are a farang? Hadn't given that any thought.

The issue was coordinated attack at set time on those believe to be Americans on various roads at Angeles City/Clark.  The one who escaped was driving a Porsche who outran the fire (although hit several times) but we could not convince those in power to provide.  

 

Mine was professionally removed so not sure if damage would still be done or not - was able to buy a generic version that worked OK for my trips up North.

 

Edit:  Got my year wrong - was 1987 rather than 1986.

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Oct 29, 1987 - Unidentified gunmen on Wednesday shot and killed three Americans, two of them active-duty military personnel and the third a retired Air Force officer, in separate ambushes all within a mile of America's sprawling Clark Air Base north of Manila.

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1987-10-29-mn-17388-story.html

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3 hours ago, ftpjtm said:

According to the dealership, 40% is the lightest tinting. So that's already above what is technically legal?

 

If 30% is the legal limit, is that what is delivered from the manufacturer?

 

The dealer is being dumb then... there are lots of companies which do varying levels of tint from 10% to about 60% (block visible light). 

 

Some companies quote 70% as the amount of visible light that can pass through. 

While other companies quote 30% for exactly the same level of tint which, blocks 30% light. 

 

Thus the dealer quoting 40% tint may actually mean that the max tint allows just 40% of visible light transmission, quite a dangerous tint if so. 

 

 

 

 

 

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4 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

The dealer is being dumb then... there are lots of companies which do varying levels of tint from 10% to about 60% (block visible light). 

 

Some companies quote 70% as the amount of visible light that can pass through. 

While other companies quote 30% for exactly the same level of tint which, blocks 30% light. 

 

Thus the dealer quoting 40% tint may actually mean that the max tint allows just 40% of visible light transmission, quite a dangerous tint if so. 

 

 

 

 

 

I am totally confused as to the % numbers being quoted as well, from what I have read Thai's tend to reverse what is commonly used in the rest of the world. I'm not sure if they are quoting in the international standard, or the Thai system. 

 

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3 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

There are also various qualities and types... some which block more UV and minimise heat transmission into the vehicle (i.e. 3M crystal series). 

 

Usually your dealer will have a selection of ‘tints’ in a booklet which you can look at. 

 

If you have negotiated ‘tint’ as an extra but the dealer is unable to provide you with a selection of ‘tints’ to chose from in a booklet or folder, then re-negotiate without the tint, you can then take your car to a company which does tints after picking it up and select a tint of your choice.

 

3M crystalline example below: 

 

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My idea was to take the car without the tint and see what it's like, and if it was decided to be absolutely necessary have a shop to it after the fact, so I ignored the book. 

 

But the whole deal is off now anyways, since Chevrolet announced they are leaving Thailand I'm not buying the car. Next trip to whatever alternate dealer I'll pay more attention.

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4 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

Cars in Thailand have a general <30% restriction - a law which is never followed up on by the Police BTW.

Bearing in mind the very dark tint that every police car/pickup in Thailand has, there is no way that they could enfore it!

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