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I've just had my UK old age pension stopped because i haven't returned my "Life Certificate" to prove i am still alive. I only did this about a year ago for the first time. They claim to have sent 2 letters asking for it but i have received nothing !! I have never failed to get post from the UK so you have to question whether they even sent it. Do other people just send one every year whether they ask or not?

What is the latest on the best (cheapest) way to get these signed. I did mine last year at the Jomtien  Immigration Office but i read somewhere they have stopped doing this.

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I always return the certificate when they send me one ASAP. There will be a list of authorised professionals that can validate your cert, but the first year I got my dentist to sign it and the last one I got it was signed by the manager of my gated estate. It is the stamp that is important, and my guess is they cannot read Thai, so they have no idea who signed it. Both cases cost me nothing.

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41 minutes ago, Henryford said:

I've just had my UK old age pension stopped because i haven't returned my "Life Certificate" to prove i am still alive. I only did this about a year ago for the first time. They claim to have sent 2 letters asking for it but i have received nothing !! I have never failed to get post from the UK so you have to question whether they even sent it. Do other people just send one every year whether they ask or not?

Life certificates are not sent out regularly, they are part of an anti-fraud system and are sent randomly or if the DWP has suspicions.  16 weeks is allowed for the return of the form before any action is taken and you cannot "self-certify" voluntarily.   I've been receiving my state pension for three years and have only had to complete one cert in that time with no suspension of payments.

 

As you found out, as long as you contact the department, your suspended pension is reinstated in full to you as soon as the DWP gets the form.

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JW - well i have only been receiving my pension for 19 months and this is the 2nd time they have suspended my pension. I am only 66. The whole idea is ridiculous especially as they won't allow you to return the form via e-mail.

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Thanks ST i will give them a try as i need to get my pension re-instated.

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14 hours ago, Just Weird said:

 

 

As you found out, as long as you contact the department, your suspended pension is reinstated in full to you as soon as the DWP gets the form.

Please stop giving out false information, after your pension is stopped for non return of life cert, a quick phone call to Newcastle, and it will be reinstated immediately.

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2 minutes ago, colinneil said:

Please stop giving out false information, after your pension is stopped for non return of life cert, a quick phone call to Newcastle, and it will be reinstated immediately.

are you saying no need to return a completed form

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25 minutes ago, sometime said:

Key Visa will do it

 

 

For free ?

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2 minutes ago, Jip99 said:

 

 

For free ?

I know a lovely🤭 man who will do it for free.

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17 hours ago, Henryford said:

They claim to have sent 2 letters asking for it but i have received nothing !! I have never failed to get post from the UK so you have to question whether they even sent it.

Attached is a blank template of the form you'll need to get witnessed. Don't forget to include your NI number which is usually pre-printed in the versions DWP send us.

 

Last time I had to go through this particular piece of bureaucratic nonsense in 2018, I managed to persuade our local police captain to perform the honours - which proved an uphill task, even with my wife's assistance, thanks to his complete lack of understanding of English. He did, however, take particular pleasure in plonking his bright red RTP stamp in the appropriate box on the form!😆

 

One thing I find particularly irritating about this whole process is that, while DWP seem more than willing to provide versions of this form in all sorts of obscure languages under the sun, Thai is not one of them for some mysterious reason. And, since their overfussy prescriptive list of acceptable witnessers, when taken in conjunction with a strict application of their specific requirement for the witnessing process to be undertaken on a face-to-face basis in front of your witnesser, could well mean that the only acceptable person eligible to perform the onerous witnessing task who is readily to hand is a Thai national with zero comprehension of the English language, as in the case of my local police captain, for example.

 

If DWP really expect us to perform this witnessing malarky properly, then they should, IMHO, provide us with the necessary tools (i.e. a Thai language version of the certificate) to assist us in getting the job done. This they are plainly not doing in the case of State Pensioners living in Thailand, I think.😠

 

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2 hours ago, colinneil said:
16 hours ago, Just Weird said:

 

 

As you found out, as long as you contact the department, your suspended pension is reinstated in full to you as soon as the DWP gets the form.

Please stop giving out false information, after your pension is stopped for non return of life cert, a quick phone call to Newcastle, and it will be reinstated immediately.

What I posted was a direct quote from the DWP to whom I spoke yesterday, it is not false information. And don't try to tell me what to post here.

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1 hour ago, colinneil said:

Please stop giving out false information, after your pension is stopped for non return of life cert, a quick phone call to Newcastle, and it will be reinstated immediately.

As long as you say during the phone call that is really IS you, and that you are NOT dead.   555

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25 minutes ago, OJAS said:

Attached is a blank template of the form you'll need to get witnessed. Don't forget to include your NI number which is usually pre-printed in the versions DWP send us.

 

Last time I had to go through this particular piece of bureaucratic nonsense in 2018, I managed to persuade our local police captain to perform the honours - which proved an uphill task, even with my wife's assistance, thanks to his complete lack of understanding of English. He did, however, take particular pleasure in plonking his bright red RTP stamp in the appropriate box on the form!😆

 

One thing I find particularly irritating about this whole process is that, while DWP seem more than willing to provide versions of this form in all sorts of obscure languages under the sun, Thai is not one of them for some mysterious reason. And, since their overfussy prescriptive list of acceptable witnessers, when taken in conjunction with a strict application of their specific requirement for the witnessing process to be undertaken on a face-to-face basis in front of your witnesser, could well mean that the only acceptable person eligible to perform the onerous witnessing task who is readily to hand is a Thai national with zero comprehension of the English language, as in the case of my local police captain, for example.

 

If DWP really expect us to perform this witnessing malarky properly, then they should, IMHO, provide us with the necessary tools (i.e. a Thai language version of the certificate) to assist us in getting the job done. This they are plainly not doing in the case of State Pensioners living in Thailand, I think.😠

 

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Isn't it a balls-up. Colin says you phone Newcastle, this form goes to Wolves.

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