giddyup Posted February 19, 2020 Author Share Posted February 19, 2020 1 minute ago, Pravda said: That's not how it works. Cars don't lose 50% value just because 20 cars in stock were advertised at 50% off. The second hand value of Captivas has to be affected though when their reputation wasn't that good to begin with. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Will27 Posted February 19, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 19, 2020 5 minutes ago, Pravda said: That's not how it works. Cars don't lose 50% value just because 20 cars in stock were advertised at 50% off. You really think people will pay over 500 000 Baht for a second hand one knowing you could've got a new one for the same price? Also, with doubts now over being able to insure and get parts for them, it has really reduced the 2nd hand prices for them. Unless you can get a fantastic deal for one second hand, most will look at other brands I'd imagine. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkk6060 Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 1 hour ago, giddyup said: No, it's a necessity if you live off a baht bus route, or you want to travel elsewhere in Thailand, or if you need to carry 6 bags of groceries home from the supermarket. As far as depreciation goes, probably a lot less than most western countries, the initial outlay may be higher though. BTW, not everyone live in Bangkok. Yes. I have a motorbike and get places twice as fast as a car. If I want to travel I rent a car. I live alone do not need to carry 6 bags of groceries. I also have a neat set up transporting my golf clubs on my bike. Like I said: I would never buy a car here. Not needed for my life. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canthai55 Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 48 minutes ago, giddyup said: Doesn't seem to be any better or worse than most brands when it comes to reliability etc. Why do you call it a Chini? from where it is made 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Kinnock Posted February 19, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 19, 2020 53 minutes ago, giddyup said: Doesn't seem to be any better or worse than most brands when it comes to reliability etc. Why do you call it a Chini? Because its made in Oxford. Everyone knows Oxford is in China somewhere ???? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willr Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 6 hours ago, cornishcarlos said: Yes because they are stopping production... Good deal if you don't mind sourcing your own spares and have a reliable mechanic to do the servicing !! No mention of that sort of reduction on their website though ?? 10 years back up for service and spare parts 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airalee Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 Maybe this is a good time to lowball someone on a used Captiva? The older ones are much nicer looking too IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giddyup Posted February 19, 2020 Author Share Posted February 19, 2020 18 minutes ago, canthai55 said: from where it is made Maybe you are thinking of the MG? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post giddyup Posted February 19, 2020 Author Popular Post Share Posted February 19, 2020 20 minutes ago, bkk6060 said: Yes. I have a motorbike and get places twice as fast as a car. If I want to travel I rent a car. I live alone do not need to carry 6 bags of groceries. I also have a neat set up transporting my golf clubs on my bike. Like I said: I would never buy a car here. Not needed for my life. Your needs and others need are different. I prefer to come home after a drive with all my limbs intact. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 2 hours ago, giddyup said: IMO a BMW Mini is a big step up from a Juke. At 750,000 the Captivas may be sitting in the dealers yards a long time. As far as the rest of the Chevy range, the reductions are a joke and only bring prices in line with other comparable brands. Please let us know other options at around 750k for automatic pickup, 4 doors. 2 hours ago, giddyup said: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornishcarlos Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 2 hours ago, Toosetinmyways said: The same people that pay a couple of million for a Mini. A would place a bet that the Captivas have all been bought by the trade and they have signed a pact they will not sell them for under 750,000 baht Apparently 4000 units at 499k sold out in 12hrs !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chongalulu Posted February 19, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 19, 2020 59 minutes ago, bkk6060 said: Yes. I have a motorbike and get places twice as fast as a car. If I want to travel I rent a car. I live alone do not need to carry 6 bags of groceries. I also have a neat set up transporting my golf clubs on my bike. Like I said: I would never buy a car here. Not needed for my life. Your circumstances don’t mirror those of the majority who do need a car. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scubascuba3 Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 1 hour ago, bkk6060 said: Yes. I have a motorbike and get places twice as fast as a car. If I want to travel I rent a car. I live alone do not need to carry 6 bags of groceries. I also have a neat set up transporting my golf clubs on my bike. Like I said: I would never buy a car here. Not needed for my life. Renting a car for occasional use makes sense, i even go to Sattahip by bike with clubs to play golf, much easier than i expected. It's great not needing a car Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giddyup Posted February 19, 2020 Author Share Posted February 19, 2020 17 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said: Renting a car for occasional use makes sense, i even go to Sattahip by bike with clubs to play golf, much easier than i expected. It's great not needing a car It's great having one! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaxxper Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 No in a word. Wouldn’t have considered one before they said they were exiting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tchooptip Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 I have a Trailblazer 4WD 3 years old I cannot say i am verry happy with the sitation! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeMoney Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 4 hours ago, giddyup said: IMO a BMW Mini is a big step up from a Juke. At 750,000 the Captivas may be sitting in the dealers yards a long time. As far as the rest of the Chevy range, the reductions are a joke and only bring prices in line with other comparable brands. Mini used to be assembled here and was still sold at over 2 million baht despite not having any import tariffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superal Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 1 hour ago, scubascuba3 said: Renting a car for occasional use makes sense, i even go to Sattahip by bike with clubs to play golf, much easier than i expected. It's great not needing a car and in the rainy season ? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scubascuba3 Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, superal said: and in the rainy season ? Avoid the rain, wear a coat, don't play golf in the rain, next? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post smccolley Posted February 19, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 19, 2020 I have a 2004 Chevy Colorado, 4x4 4 door. It has never given me a minute of problem and if I could get a deal on a new Colorado High Country Storm I would jump all over it. I do need to check on the insurance thing however. No insurance would be a deal breaker. I have had numerous Chevys and GMCs in my life and never really had any issues that I can think of, besides tickets.... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KhaoYai Posted February 19, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 19, 2020 (edited) Its a bit naive and unfair to label a whole brand as unreliable. All motor manufacturers share parts these days - you probably don't know it but your Nissan may have a Renualt gearbox and your Ford may have a Mazda engine. In the UK I drive an Alfa diesel and the engine was jointly built by GM and Alfa. Its been going on for years as manufacturers strive to cut costs and even the luxury brands like BMW are at it. Then there's the cloudy issue of 'genuine parts' - most car manufacturers are simply assemblers. They buy in a good percentage of their parts and simply put them together in their plants. Many of these parts are interchangeable - the makers don't only sell them to one brand. Injection systems are a good example - the manufacturer may sell the same pump and noozles to several brands so if there's a later issue with them, that issue will affect all brands using them. I don't doubt some models can be troublesome but that can apply to any brand. Ask the owners of BMW 2.0 diesels bought between 2007 and 2011 - cam chains snapping, even at low mileages with devastating results! Volkswagen, the supposedly bulletproof brand has had several serious issues with diesel injectors over the last 12 years or so and they buy injection systems from several makers. The list goes on and on and I doubt Japanese brands are any different. With Chevvy I can only speak from my experience. I had a 2013 Sonic and believe me it was thrashed on most journeys. The car covered a lot of km's during the 3 years I had it and apart from routine servicing the only parts it ever needed was a set of ignition coils and 1 lower ball joint. A lot of the parts issues with Chevrolets seem to be because many aftermarket parts shops simply don't stock them but with a little effort, you can usually find them. The local shops said 'mai mee' on both coils and ball joint but I obtained a set of coils from Bangkok overnight. The ball joint was slightly different - both the local aftermarket dealer and the Chevvy dealer said I had to buy a complete suspension arm and neither had it in stock. I had a look on Ebay and the joint itself was available in the UK very cheaply. It wasn't urgent so I brought one with me on my next trip. A little strange really as there's a very strong chance that the part I bought in the UK was made in Thailand. The aftermarket dealers seem to only stock parts for the most popular brands/models - Toyota, Honda etc. No matter what the brand, if you want dealer parts outside Bangkok, its quite common for them to take a couple of days to arrive. I had to wait 2 days for a brake master cylinder for a Honda City and my mate had to wait 3 months for a new engine (under warranty) for his Ford Everest. As has been said before - a lot of Colorado parts are interchangeable with D-Max bits. Depending on the model, if you're prepared to accept a little hassle, you are probably going to be able to pick up a real bargain following GM's announcment. Edited February 19, 2020 by KhaoYai 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhaoYai Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 5 hours ago, giddyup said: IMO a BMW Mini is a big step up from a Juke. You really think so? Check out reports of serious engine and power steering issues with Mini's. The BMW owned Mini brand is regarded as a pile of cr*p by the UK motor trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunderhill Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 9 hours ago, DeeMoney said: Trailblazer's and Colorado's interior parts can use Isuzu's. Engine parts not an issue either, it's been in assembly for a decade. The serious problem are body panels which are not interchangeable with Isuzu. The massive discount is mostly because the finance companies will now refuse to give loans for Chevrolets, both new and old, so cash only. On other car forums a lot of users are saying you can't insure these as well due to the risk of crashed Chevrolets being written-off in most collisions due to body panels not being readily available. Nonsense, Colorado and Trailblazer parts are on the interior not interchangeable now, it had a big facelift in 2016 only pre 2016 models will have similar interiors, also still fully insurable, just go to roojai and get a quote right now for a Colorado. The Colorado is also made in Brazil called the S10 the "international" version not the American one so parts would always be available from there although Im sure there is ample stock in Thailand and surrounding countries for years to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunderhill Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 27 minutes ago, KhaoYai said: Its a bit naive and unfair to label a whole brand as unreliable. All motor manufacturers share parts these days - you probably don't know it but your Nissan may have a Renualt gearbox and your Ford may have a Mazda engine. In the UK I drive an Alfa diesel and the engine was jointly built by GM and Alfa. Its been going on for years as manufacturers strive to cut costs and even the luxury brands like BMW are at it. Then there's the cloudy issue of 'genuine parts' - most car manufacturers are simply assemblers. They buy in a good percentage of their parts and simply put them together in their plants. Many of these parts are interchangeable - the makers don't only sell them to one brand. Injection systems are a good example - the manufacturer may sell the same pump and noozles to several brands so if there's a later issue with them, that issue will affect all brands using them. I don't doubt some models can be troublesome but that can apply to any brand. Ask the owners of BMW 2.0 diesels bought between 2007 and 2011 - cam chains snapping, even at low mileages with devastating results! Volkswagen, the supposedly bulletproof brand has had several serious issues with diesel injectors over the last 12 years or so and they buy injection systems from several makers. The list goes on and on and I doubt Japanese brands are any different. With Chevvy I can only speak from my experience. I had a 2013 Sonic and believe me it was thrashed on most journeys. The car covered a lot of km's during the 3 years I had it and apart from routine servicing the only parts it ever needed was a set of ignition coils and 1 lower ball joint. A lot of the parts issues with Chevrolets seem to be because many aftermarket parts shops simply don't stock them but with a little effort, you can usually find them. The local shops said 'mai mee' on both coils and ball joint but I obtained a set of coils from Bangkok overnight. The ball joint was slightly different - both the local aftermarket dealer and the Chevvy dealer said I had to buy a complete suspension arm and neither had it in stock. I had a look on Ebay and the joint itself was available in the UK very cheaply. It wasn't urgent so I brought one with me on my next trip. A little strange really as there's a very strong chance that the part I bought in the UK was made in Thailand. The aftermarket dealers seem to only stock parts for the most popular brands/models - Toyota, Honda etc. No matter what the brand, if you want dealer parts outside Bangkok, its quite common for them to take a couple of days to arrive. I had to wait 2 days for a brake master cylinder for a Honda City and my mate had to wait 3 months for a new engine (under warranty) for his Ford Everest. As has been said before - a lot of Colorado parts are interchangeable with D-Max bits. Depending on the model, if you're prepared to accept a little hassle, you are probably going to be able to pick up a real bargain following GM's announcment. The Colorado is actually quite a good truck, the "Craptiva" old model earned its reputation though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunderhill Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 8 hours ago, simple1 said: In Australia GM is guaranteeing spare parts available for 10 years, what's the situation in Thailand? And guess where those spare parts will come from? yep Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunderhill Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 47 minutes ago, smccolley said: I have a 2004 Chevy Colorado, 4x4 4 door. It has never given me a minute of problem and if I could get a deal on a new Colorado High Country Storm I would jump all over it. I do need to check on the insurance thing however. No insurance would be a deal breaker. I have had numerous Chevys and GMCs in my life and never really had any issues that I can think of, besides tickets.... Roojai.com will insure you no problem and at a very good price. The bog standard higher spec high country 2wd is a good price now about 820k inc vat, was 998k dont think theyll reduce the 4x4 much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thequietman Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 9 hours ago, BritManToo said: If they reduced the pickups to 450k, I'd buy one. If you wait, it just might happen. ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Dwyer Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 Just on the news the Thai’s are snapping them up !! Wonder if they are worried about servicing and insurance ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baansgr Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 4 hours ago, willr said: 10 years back up for service and spare parts So go back to the empty deserted showroom to ask about your guarantee...yep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emptypockets Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 (edited) 9 hours ago, simple1 said: In Australia GM is guaranteeing spare parts available for 10 years, what's the situation in Thailand? 5years. The wife is looking in Surin for one for her sister. None available in Bangkok or Rayong apparently Edited February 19, 2020 by emptypockets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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